IS CHOLESTEROL THE REAL ENEMY?

[rbrwn310]

I have found out that cholesterol is really not the enemy. The real enemy is hydrogenated oils and high fructose corn syrup.The drug industry advertises cholesterol lowering drugs on TV all the time with a disclaimer that the drug will not cure or prevent heart disease. Obviously the drug industry is aware that cholesterol is really not the culprit but continues to market useless drugs and to scare the public into thinking they should target cholesterol. The drugs also affect liver function which is where the source of cholesterol  regulation takes place in the body further overburdening the already overworked liver with more toxic chemicals from the drugs. Why does the medical industry zero in on cholesterol when other culprits are the problem. Why is heart disease still the biggest killer after all these years and all this research.? Why does the medical industry still harp on cholesterol as the cause of heart disease?


This discussion is related to High Choleserol/low triglycerides.

[erijon]

Money, what are you talking about? Please don't make personal attacks on this board. I don't make a dime off of statins. If you and Ed want to avoid them, please do, you don't need me to agree with you.

Just the same question I have asked before, if a person with a low cholesterol level decided to give up and let their TC get elevated to say 300 mg, would they be at greater risk? OF COURSE THEY WOULD. Whether it's due to a link between cholesterol and CAD or because of injured arteries as you state, in either case they would increase their risk. Statins have helped many of us who did change their diet and exercise routine and lost considerable weight and moved to a healthier lifestyle but still struggled with high cholesterol levels, why can't you just accept that and give it a rest. You don't want to take them, good for you I hope whatever you do works for you.

[rbrwn310]

According to a Medical Doctor this is why statins are dangerous and why this is all a big scam. According to doctor Ron Rosedale statins actually increase heart disease.
"Low cholesterol levels have been shown to worsen patients with congestive heart failure, a life threatning condition where the heart becomes too weak to effectively pump blood. Statin drugs have have been shown to also cause nerve damage and to greatly impair memory. One reason that statin drugs have these serious side effects is thatv they work by inhibiting a vital enzyme that manufactures cholesterol in the liver. However, the same enzyme is used to manufacture coenzyme q10, which is an biochemical needed to transfer energy from food to the cells to stay alive and healthy.

Statin drugs are known to inhibit our very important production of coq10. Importantly while many cardiologists insist that lowering cholesterol; is correlated with a reduction of heart attacks; few can say that there is a reduction in the risk of mortality. In other words it has never never been shown conclusively that lowering cholesterol saves lives. In fact several large studies have shown that lowering cholesterol into the range currently recommended is correlated with an increased risk of dying especially of cancer."

Ron Rosedale MD

Not my words but of a well respected medical doctor not afraid to speak out against the crimes being committed by the drug industry and the food industry.

[rbrwn310]

At times LDL cholesterol can begin to stick to arteries that have been damaged by free radicals found in common grocery store vegetable oils and food. When one speaks of cholesterol one needs to speak of LDL or HDL. The type that may stick to damaged artery walls is the LDL and the HDL will remove that cholesterol. If one has an HDL reading of over 50 or higher  then the body is safer from any plaque accumulation due to internal artery damage from hydrogenated vegetable oils, cigarettes, alcohol, or other nasty items many put into their one and only body.

[ed34]

Can you imagine the absolute mess it would make when everyone realises statins are a waste of time. People who claim statins regress their disease are not realising its just due to their change in diet. When people really start to look at the evidence, lawsuits will be flying everywhere. It makes me sweat just to think of the money that will be involved.

[rbrwn310]

In 1962 autopsy studies by Polish researchers found that 2/3  of those who died from confirmed cad, had serum cholesterol in the normal to low ranges They could find no correlation between  blood cholesterol  content  and the cholesterol  content of arterial plaque.(Marek et al 1962;American Heart Journal). Subsequent autopsy studies from the USA and Gautemala confirmed those findings.
Heart disease is still the biggest killer of Americans despite the wide spread use of high dollar statin drugs. Oh but I forgot there are some here that think heart disease has been cured by statins and that I am all wet. As stated before the real enemy is still on the shelf of your grocery store. If one insists on taking statins a product in the health food store will do the same job for a heck of a lot less money but its still not the answer.

[erijon]

"There are controlled tests done by medical labs indicating that deaths occur more with those with lower cholesterol than with higher cholesterol indicating this cholesterol scare is a myth and a big scam to make drug companies bottom lines even bigger. I have the results that were posted in medical journals for those that think I do not know what I am talking about. Those journals go to your doctors that stack them in a corner and never read them"

Please back this up, the only data you sent me yesterday was an old study of 800 individuals looking at the link between high cholesterol and heart disease IN PEOPLE OVER 70. Your own study states that this is not a proper control group and they claim not to make any conclusions in individuals under 70 years of age.

Ed has provided some compelling reading which I will look at this evening, I would include anything you have as well. Just don't use the foul language as you have in your multiple messages to me yesterday. I don't know why my opinion is so important to you, but please don't be so rude and abusive.