Does anyone else get frequent PVCs (bigeminy/trigeminy) ONLY in the evening and before falling asleep?

[user01938474]

I've been diagnosed with PVCs. I rarely experience them during the day and never when exercising. I can't even really find a correlation between caffeine/alcohol and them (although I never consume anything caffeinated). I exercise regularly. And I never experience them when exercising.

However, when I do get the PVCs, they come every other beat or almost every other beat non-stop for hours. This bigeminy and trigeminy always occurs in the evening, sometime around 7 or 8 as I'm settling down from dinner and a trip to the gym. As I let my mind and body relax, the PVCs get more frequent and eventually as I lay down to get to sleep the PVCs occur at nearly every other beat.

Lately, I haven't been able to take this at night, so I will jump out of bed and furiously pump out about 50 push-ups without stopping. This gets my heart rate up quite a bit, maybe around 80 or 90 bpm. The PVCs are totally gone in what I understand is called "overdrive suppression". This works every time and sometimes if I'm lucky, will keep the PVCs at bay just long enough for me to fall asleep.

What is really interesting, is that the PVCs don't wake me up, and I'm not even sure they are occurring when I'm unconscious. I have woken up early in the morning before my alarm clock goes off, or even in the middle of the night now and then and have not felt one PVC. It seems that once I'm unconscious, these are also suppressed, or I'm just super relaxed and the heart pumps without anything irritating it to cause a PVC.

Two questions:
1) Has anyone experienced or is experiencing anything like this at all?
2) These facts are always true, and the PVCs are not that random. Don't these symptoms point to a clear cause?? My PVCs occur at slower heart rates so Beta Blockers don't work. And ablation seems extreme still. No other solutions?

Thanks in advance for any insights!

Can't sleep :(
Erik

[OxonRees]

Anyone on here try any of these ...?

CQ10
Taurine
L'carnitine

From what I've been reading Taurine and L'carnitine can cure PVCs/PACs completely. Haven't tried these myself, as I want to be tested for a deficiency first, but getting the doc to agree to test for micro nutrient deficiency when all the doctors ever want to do is send you home with the "learn to live with it" flea in your ear is not going to be easy.

[NikSmith]

I have had these skipped beat for what seems like forever.  I also have the copper taste in my mouth when it happens and usually only at night. I have done the monitors for 30 days at a time and they show pac's and sinus tachycardia.  Dr's all tell me these are all normal and nothing to worry about.  My biggest concern is that my father has sick sinus syndrome and has had 5 heart attacks and is on his 3rd pacemaker. His first heart attack was when he was in his 50's.  His mother (my grandmother) died of sudden cardiac death in her early 70's. I am a 42 year old woman in good health and normal weight I am very active and this has been going on for roughly 20 years but now getting much worse almost every night.  is it because I am approaching menopause?  I wish I could get some really answers as I am just not confident with what the cardiologists are saying.

[heartfluttersflyawayplz]

Hi and yes on the pot tying, once mine start and they are coming every other beat for hours on hours, my anxiety kicks in and I am up going to potty a lot

It must be the anxiety that causes that only thing I can figure out, when I am anxiety I am forever going to potty,

Hate to say this but happy to see I am not the only one that gets them from 2-10 hours at a time ,

Before it was now and than a few at time now, they don't want to leave ,once they get here,

Funny with all on this site , I don't know one person who lives around me that gets these.

So this site helps me to know it's not just my heart, prayers for all on this site to have a pap free week or less paps ,

[JoKelly]

It has been helpful to read this thread as I get these crazy beats most times I lie down at night.  I have a tinnitus pulse in my ear anyway, so cannot help but listen to them and try to stay unpanicked!   I do agree it is not helpful to be told they are harmless (quote "well they are not AFib anyway') and not to worry.  Couple of tips, lie quietly on your back first off before turning on either side.  Try listening to the radio with earphones when you get anxious - it does help to keep from concentrating on the beats.  

I go into AFib without Flecainide anyway, despite two ablations, so I am always half expecting it to take a turn from strange beats and into AFib again.  Makes it hard to sleep..

PS Does anyone else find that there is very increased urination during these episodes?  Seem to trot backwards and forwards a great deal....

[OxonRees]

I know exactly how you feel. I'm sick of hearing they are normal from the doctors and specialists. I never suffered from them my whole life and now out of the blue they start up - there must be an underlying cause. They just can't find it or don't know where to look.

[myt6]

I have a hard time believing that these are "normal."  Skipped beats on a regular pattern for hours on end can not be "normal" in my opinion.  Especially having gone all my life without them and now they start right up every single morning and continue the rest of the day.  One two-skip, one two three-skip, one-skip.....etc....etc...e.tc.....all day long.  Then it gets worse......bigeminy for and hour at a time....etc...etc.....Normal?  Yeah right.