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179856 tn?1333547362

Just Gross!

Dear God this is just so gross I can't imagine letting anyone near me without gloves but then again if you're knocked out how would you know? Not cleaning blood glucose meters......

Poor infection control at many surgery centers
  A new federal study finds up to 70 percent of same-day surgery centers have serious problems with infection control, including failing to wash hands and wear gloves.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37577363/ns/health-health_care/


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233616 tn?1312787196
the last time I went to emergency the paramedic goofed up the veinous puncture and blood spilled out all over the sheet and gurney....I told him twice before the puncture to be careful, I have hep C.  He was anything but careful.

Then as I lay in the room, I told every doctor or nurse that my blood was dangerous, and that this should be cleaned up asap and the gurney needed sterilizing (because the blood had dripped all over around and under the table and the PM didn't seem to care.
Nor did the nurses, nor did the ER doc...

When I left, I just had this creepy feeling, like who knows how well they will clean that gurney....and someone else will lay on it, grip with their hand, and then later their hand goes to their mouth...

unfortunately, everyone seemed very nonchalant about it.....do they realaize that 30,000
vions can line up in between the 2 dots I'm about to type??   ..    see them?  ..

do they realize 30,000 fir in that space, and it only takes 20-40 to infect???
I think not...I think everyday more people get infected, and it's due to medical/dental neglect and not due to IV drug use, for the most part.

It's scary stuff. And, who knows what's in blood that we don't know about!!

I saw that the red cross is now trying to lift the ban on gay men donating blood....
and this is also very scary.!!!!!!!

why??
scary because we still don't know what else could be in blood...we finally discovered one thing was HIV/aides...and 10 years later we found HCV...but who is to say we won't find something else soon, and 20 years from now find something else that's been there all along, but we had no test or detection for it!!!

. There is no telling how many viruses this group carries, but it far more likly to carry many things because the s.e.x. practices pass these germs readily between the practitioners. That's just a known fact is all.

We know that the life span for gay males is only 42 on average, some studies say 53 or 4, but that's still 20 years below the average.....Red Cross wants to lift the ban on this.
I think it's wrong to insist your blood be placed in the blood pool when you could easily be infecting children and innocent peolple even before things show up on a blood screen.

This is not gay bashing, this is just common sense. Keep the blood supply as good as we can, and not adding high risk blood to the mix is part of that.  

I cannot imagine giving blood now, because even if Undetecatable I could still carry a small amount of occult HCV, and I would not want to run that risk of having destroyed someone elses health. So I don't think this is guys wanting to do good...because the good would be not to risk another health in the process of their donations...
I think they want to fight because they think it's discrimination.

What to do then, when their right not to be discriminated against puts everyone at much greater risk.
I fail to see how this is discrimination anyway, because the blood neither knows nor cares to whom it is given...it isn't being denied a job because of it's donor, it isn't being denied housing,..it's just blood, and could it speak I think it would say, "don't let anyone be sick on account of me."

I don't get why patients seem to understand and be alarmed by the blood issues while most of the medical world yawns....and I definitely do not understand why a billion people have hepatitis and no one is calling this an epidemic.
And now we want to put the highest risk pool BACK into the nations blood supply??What gives???  Has the world lost all their common sense??

mb
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691935 tn?1421027090
in response to  "I never see them wash their hands at the sink that is in every room"  yes and they alway extend their hand to you to shake it!  Sometimes I wonder why we shake hands then conversely I think maybe we are becoming to sterile and therefore weak.  What's a person to dooooooooo!
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Rocker, -In EMS we call that "chocolate surprise"...:P ~MM
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As a paramedic I keep a close eye on keeping things clean that contact the patients...It really bothers me when I see a blood pressure cuff (usually in the ER) that was on a sweaty, stinky or bloody patient just minutes before, applied to the arm of another...They are applied with gloved hands but there is no barrier between the patient and the equipment....The same with stethoscopes, heart monitor leads, glucometers, tourniquets (for IV starts), and sometimes bed rails...At least the sheets are clean...;) Oh, and don't forget the "community" ink pens that everyone signs the HIPAA  and consent forms with...(To think that someone may have just scratched their body bits moments before they signed...) EEwww...:P ~MM
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Ya cant trust nobody.I see people who use the washroom and never wash the browm stuff of thier hands....can you say GROSS
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412873 tn?1329174455
I saw this article this morning.  They said that the clinics were aware the inspectors were on the premises.  They had an opportunity to showcase their cleanliness...and still managed to fail in these very simple areas.

Yuck!!!!  
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179856 tn?1333547362
Bwah it's amazing how you have to really read every word you type when Goofball is around!  I'm just glad I didn't say rubber in there anywhere...........................

Rocker I thought you went off your Rocker for a minute there I thought this was one post you would enjoy!

When I got home last night this same bit of info was run as one of the major news stories of the day (in addition to the chilling stuff about the oilspill which doesn't look like it's getting any better to me)......scary watching the news these days isn't it?
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1225178 tn?1318980604
These findings and the people KNEW they were being watched?!?

Can you imagine what they do when they know nobody is watching? They know better but just don't care I guess. Just one more reason for us to be proactive with our own care when we go to the doctor's office... Never ASSUME anything!
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338734 tn?1377160168
Dude???
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92903 tn?1309904711
"I can't imagine letting anyone near me without gloves"

Dude. I'm into the latex too. I trust black works?
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I am only kidding ,thats my job,to post the warnings and be on the lookout.
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Will you stop posting these negative posts    _ _
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That article is amazing and scary. I don't doubt it,no wonder there are so many HepC infections in the U.S.   I once went to the emergency room and the floor was filthy with dust bunnys in the corners...Everytime I go to the Dr's office I never see them wash their hands at the sink that is in every room as they leave. I wonder if they ever do during the day at all.
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179856 tn?1333547362
OH yeah of course:

The study was prompted by a hepatitis C outbreak in Las Vegas believed to be caused by unsafe injection practices at two now-closed clinics.
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