HELP! MY FIRST ULTRA SOUND, NOT HEART BEAT!

[AnitaRFrith]

I was So excited to go get my first ultra sound today.  But now I don't know what to think.  The lady did a vaginal ultra sound on me an there was just a black circle.  There was no heart beat!  I thought that I was 11 weeks because my last FULL cycle was June 7th.  I had spotting for 2 days on July 5th an 6th.  I just thought it was implantation bleeding.  Even if I was a month off on my dates.... I should be 5 or 6 weeks.  Shouldn't I had heard the heart beat or saw some thing inside the circle?  It was just a black dot.  They would not give me the ultra sound pics an the nurse an staff acted very strange.  They set me up 2 visits for next week at the hospital.  They would not tell me any thing.  I have to get more blood word an another ultra sound done Tuesday.  I think they want me to go there for a DNC but I'm not sure.  When she hit a button on the machine it lit up around it... but not on or near it.  What dose that mean?  I feel fine.  No spotting or pain.  Has this ever happened to any one on here?  Please help I'm almost in tear worring about this.  

[tarajanes]

Hi im sorry you are going through this,i can tell you if you were 5-6 weeks pregnant then you wouldnt hear it yet.i had scan first at 5 weeks,all i saw was a dot.i had another scan today.at 9 weeks,although im only 7 weeks since conception,and saw a heartbeat.so i hopefully end next week or so they may see somthing.dont go for a dnc yet.ive read so many stories doctors just want women to have them,instead of allowing couple weeks,especially since you have no bleeding or pain..fingers crossed for you..

[AnitaRFrith]

what dose it mean when the click the machine an it light up?  Did yours show anything inside the dot?  Or was it just a dot?

[pink140580]

depending on how far gone you actually are i had a scan when i found out i was pregnant when i was only about 4 weeks and i had the same happen there was just a big black hole with nothing in it nothing at all and i was real scared but they said there has either been a baby in there or a baby is about to appear so i had to go away and wait 2 weeks before my next app which was such a worry when i went back there was finally a tiny weeny dot there and i was announced 6 weeks pregnant i had found out so early that nothing showed up but im wondering if your last period was june that was quite a while ago, i have personally had a miscarrage i thought i was 12 weeks but when i went for my scan as i had heavy bleeding i was told i was preg with twins and lost one baby and had one baby still in there which was the size of a 6 week old baby so i dont know if in actual fact i was only six weeks or that they had died at 6 weeks and just been there all that time i had a dnc for the 2nd baby, i cant understand why no one has told you anything i was told immediatly so maybe there just unsure and that your actually really early ? what ever happens let me know because if you are going to suffer a miscarriage please contact me so i can help you through it good luck x

[AnitaRFrith]

I have been through a twin pregnancy also.  I lost the first one at 3 weeks.  Then the 2nd one at 19 weeks an 5 days.  I gave birth to a baby girl.  She did not live of course.  Then I was pregnant in my left tube an they had to remove it.  Is it possible that the spotting was implantation bleeding?  I just don't know what to think.

[Mumita]

Did you ever get a HGC blood test done? If so what was the number?  That usually confirms a pregnancy.
If you are 5-6 weeks they wouldnt see anything. BUT if you are 12 weeks they should see a tiny fetus with a heartbeat.  To be honest you could have had a missed miscarriage.  Didn't you go to the ER not too long ago because of swollen legs?  They should have told you something then about your pregnancy if they really did check you....

[tarajanes]

Its possible spotting was inplantation,not all women experience this,to be honest i would put down julys spotting as that,the fact the black whole is there is still promising (this was all i saw couple weeks ago.)im sure in couple weeks,you will see more..doctors dont believe in womens cycles being possibly being  longer than 28 days,so you may be still very early.point is no bleeding no pain,not a cause for concern,i would try to relax (hard i know) im having issues since my scan today.although i saw heartbeat,baby looked fine,but the sac is small,they say not to be worried,yeah right like we dont..try to stay calm..and refuse any dnc for couple weeks at least,i wish you all the best,not sure on the machine part of your question,there machines are different in the uk...

[AnitaRFrith]

all my blood work an test were normal.  

this is what they gave me from the er

CBC

WBC         7.7
RBC          4.40
HEMOGLOBIN             13.3
HEMATOCRIT               38.4
MCV                             87
MCHC                           34.7
RDW                             13.2
PLATELETS                 214
MPV                             7.9

AUTOMATED DIFF

NEUT%                 60
LYMPH%               30
MONO%                   9
EOSIN%                 1
BASO%                    1
NEUTROPHIL ABSOLUTE COUNT              4.6
LYMPHS ABSOLUTE COUNT                     2.3
MONOCYTES ABSOLUTE COUNT              0.7
EOS ABSOLUTE COUNT                            0.1
BASOS ABSOLUTE COUNT                        0.0

HEMOSTASIS

PROTHROMBIN TIME                        14.1
INR                                                    1.07
CONTROL PT                                     13.3
PTT                                                    29

CHEMISTRY PANEL

SODIUM                                      136
POTASSIUM                                3.8
CHLORIDE                                   106
CO2                                            19 L
GLUC                                          85
BUN                                             5
CREATININE LEVEL                     0.8

GFR-e

CALCIUM                   8.9
PROTEIN TOTAL           7.1
ALBUMIN LEVEL          3.9
BILI T                            0.5
BILI D                            0.3
BILI  I                            0.2
ALK PHOS                     48
AST (SGOT)                   21
ALT (SGPT)                   18

MISCELLANEOUS CHEMISTRY TESTS

B-TYPENATRIURETIC PEPTIDE (BNP)             77

URINALYSIS

URINE TYPE                   CATH
COLOR                           YELLOW
CLARITY                          CLEAR
SPECIFIC GRAVITY                       <=1.005
PH URINE                           7.0
PROT URINE                       NEG
GLUCOSE URINE                NEG
KETONES  URINE               NEG
HEMOGLOBIN URINE             NEG
BILI URINE                           NEG
UROBILINOGEN URINE            0.2
LEUKOCYTE ESTERASE          NEG
NITRITE                                   NEG
WBC URINE                           NONE SEEN
RBC URINE                            NONE SEEN
EPITHELIAL CELLS URINE            OCCASIONAL
BACTERIA URINE                          NONE SEEN
URINE CULTURE INDICATED               NO

PREGNANCY TEST SERUM                   POSITIVE

[StressHead]

My twins were black circles at 5 weeks and they were funny with my because I hadn't had a period for 8 weeks. I wrnt back a week later and they have grown to 3mm and w saw the heartbeat flicker but I was never given the opportunity to hear them until 12 weeks!!

I would say that either you are five weeks pregnant or the embryo stopped growing at five weeks. I'm not sure if you would need a D and C though when it is that early. Is there any chance that you had sex three weeks ago?? This may mean you are five weeks pregnant and have just had funny cycles.......

Good luck xxx

[AnitaRFrith]

they never gave me my hgc counts.  I would had never worried but the nurse acted very strange.

[StressHead]

My twins were black circles at 5 weeks and they were funny with me because I hadn't had a period for 8 weeks. I went back a week later and they have grown to 3mm and we saw the heartbeat flicker but I was never given the opportunity to hear them until 12 weeks!!

I would say that either you are five weeks pregnant or the embryo stopped growing at five weeks. I'm not sure if you would need a D and C though when it is that early. Is there any chance that you had sex three weeks ago?? This may mean you are five weeks pregnant and have just had funny cycles.......

Good luck xxx

SORRY POSTED AGAIN, LOTS OF TYPOS :(

[AnitaRFrith]

yes thats possible.  I'm married so theres no telling.  I got a positive test almost 4 weeks ago... home test

[StressHead]

The nurses are like that, they said to me 'You're 8 weeks and not growing'. I told them I thought I had ovulated again but they just said 'We'll see what happens next week'.

Last week my sister had her first round of IVF, she was told on the Friday at her egg check that her eggs were not growing because they hadn't doubled and normal they have tripled by the Tuesday. I told her to not listen to them and there was hope until Tuesday. When she went on the following Tuesday she had 10 eggs, 4 were good eggs and out of the 4 embryos made, 2 were spot on and they implanted them last Saturday.

I think they tell you the worst case senario so you don't get your hopes up but I don;t see the point in this. We give people a week of misery they might not need to go through???

[StressHead]

HCG counts don't mean anything, they don't do them here in the UK where I am because they are not an accurate determination of a viable pregnancy.

When we saw the black circles, I actually thought I was four weeks but the US the week after dated me at 6, so I think there really is hope.

If they are correct with my dates I ovulated three times in one cycle and must have released two eggs on the second ovulation.

It's not over til the fat lady sings!!! If it doesn't go your way just keep trying xx

[AnitaRFrith]

I think its very unprofessional for them to act like that.  Sigh.... any one have any clue what the ER stuff means?  lol .  they told me to goive it to my OB ... I have no clue what any of it means.  I under positive pregnancy an clear na yellow pee lol

[AnitaRFrith]

sorry for the typos

[StressHead]

CBC

WBC         7.7
RBC          4.40
HEMOGLOBIN             13.3
HEMATOCRIT               38.4
MCV                             87
MCHC                           34.7 - Higher than normal range
RDW                             13.2
PLATELETS                 214
MPV                             7.9

AUTOMATED DIFF

NEUT%                 60
LYMPH%               30
MONO%                   9
EOSIN%                 1
BASO%                    1
NEUTROPHIL ABSOLUTE COUNT              4.6
LYMPHS ABSOLUTE COUNT                     2.3
MONOCYTES ABSOLUTE COUNT              0.7
EOS ABSOLUTE COUNT                            0.1
BASOS ABSOLUTE COUNT                        0.0


I checked all this with my notes from my bloods because they give me normal ranges. They are all perfectly fine except the one I indicated. Now my Nuetrophils were hgiher than normal and when I asked my OB she said the ranges I had were not for pregnant women so not to worry.
So all looks healthy :))

Your urinalysis looks okay to me too but I am NOT a Doctor.

[StressHead]

All the negs of your urine are normal because if they were postitive it would indicate stuff like diabetes and problems digesting carbs.

I am a science teacher so some of it make sense to me.

[AnitaRFrith]

thanks!  what could cause that one thing to be high?  Do you know?

[StressHead]

The norm for a not pregnant person is 27.0 - 32.00 So you see it's not that high :)

My neutrophils were 8.54 and the norm was 2.00 - 7.50. I'm not sure what MCHC are but neutrophils are related to infection so i was really worried I had an infection (I was 12 weeks at the time) and my OB just found it amusing that I new what they were and had worried about it.

I am 100% that it is nothing bad and completely Unrelated to predicament :) I would hazard a guess that if there was a problem then alot of the components of the blood would be miles out of their range.

[michelle_rusty]

i will tell you only what i know. i was thought to be 11 weeks preggo and went in for my first scan and only to find out that baby stopped developing at 6.5 weeks ,it was just a black dot with nothin in it no heartbeat no nothing. i had NO spotting , no cramps no nothing . i thought everything to be fne. well i had a missed ob but my body kept on carrying it almost six weeks after it had passed . so i had to have a d&c. and it broke my heart. i know thats not what you want to hear but im tellin you what had happened to me . i wish you luck and hope that everyhting is ok with you .

[StressHead]

I looked it up, its the amount of haemoglobin packed into an area of red blood cells. Problem MCHC are 37 or more. Low means anaemia. Your blood will be super efficient at carrying Oxygen if you have haemoglobin jam packed in.

[AnitaRFrith]

thats what I was thinking too... thats  why the ultra sound was a shock

[AnitaRFrith]

no thats not what I want to hear but thanks for being honest.  How much could really change between now an Tuesday?  Is it at all possible?  

[michelle_rusty]

everything is possible... and i wish ya the best of luck..