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PLEASE READ THIS EVERYONE DONT BE OFFENDED THIS IS JUST MY OPINION
I understand people here are tryin to conceive babies and loosin babies which is very sad and i know it hurts but please remember to respect everyone opinion regardless if u like ir or not am not please with some of wat u all said to Jban seems harsh it hurts to me see someone is here to get advice and help and because some of u are against abortions u decline to give advice and tell her to find another forum this makes me mad am against abortion 100% when i was young i had 2 of them one when i was 16 cause my mother made me and another later on in life this change my life forever i wanted to dy i want to kill myself and i took me years to get over i felt everything for my last abortion they didnt put me to sleep this change me i took nearly 7 yrs to go back to normal again. Instead of tellin JPan u will not advice her and find another forum u should tell her wat an abortion is and provide comfort regardless of her decision and opinion i hope i didnt offend anyone but i was touch by wat i read i think i wasnt fair to her because of something we are against
By the way, every state's laws are different. Some can be tried for 2nd degree, others for manslaughter... just depends on the state and judge.
Yeah, adoption is hard for older children, but babies don't have any prob being adopted. I tried looking into adoption myself, but EVERY single place wants at least one parent to be 30 years old or older. Adoption is a long, tedious process with lots of restrictions and guidelines, which is why a lot of people don't look into adoption, or try to adopt from young pregnant teens.
I've known kids who've been adopted, and I've known parents who've given up their children. The things a woman feels about a child she gives up is very similar to what a woman feels after aborting her child. She will wonder, even decades later, "What would my child have done?" "What would they have looked like" "I wish I hadn't done it" among SO many other things. They will feel a twinge of pain when they see other children, especially around the age that their child "would have" been.
Yeah, adoption is hard for older children, but babies don't have any prob being adopted. I tried looking into adoption myself, but EVERY single place wants at least one parent to be 30 years old or older. Adoption is a long, tedious process with lots of restrictions and guidelines, which is why a lot of people don't look into adoption, or try to adopt from young pregnant teens.
I've known kids who've been adopted, and I've known parents who've given up their children. The things a woman feels about a child she gives up is very similar to what a woman feels after aborting her child. She will wonder, even decades later, "What would my child have done?" "What would they have looked like" "I wish I hadn't done it" among SO many other things. They will feel a twinge of pain when they see other children, especially around the age that their child "would have" been.
http://blog.syracuse.com/news/2007/04/west_monroe_woman_charged_with.html
http://www.questia.com/googleScholar.qst;jsessionid=Hx8BQcwdL4dbL8YsnWZTwpY9VTg7YZ3JYGwyDZNdHWwwSDWmwYTP!343392858?docId=5002005126
Those are just a few. There are many more.
http://www.questia.com/googleScholar.qst;jsessionid=Hx8BQcwdL4dbL8YsnWZTwpY9VTg7YZ3JYGwyDZNdHWwwSDWmwYTP!343392858?docId=5002005126
Those are just a few. There are many more.
Wait, one more thing.
Where did you find out that a woman who self inflicts abortion can be tried for murder? I'm searching for this on web, but can't find a thing. I don't think you can be tried for murder for self aborting. I've never heard about it in the news, and I think it would have made it into the headlines. I think anti-abortionists are pushing for a law like that, but I don't think it's happened.
Let me know how you know that so I can read about it...thanks.
Where did you find out that a woman who self inflicts abortion can be tried for murder? I'm searching for this on web, but can't find a thing. I don't think you can be tried for murder for self aborting. I've never heard about it in the news, and I think it would have made it into the headlines. I think anti-abortionists are pushing for a law like that, but I don't think it's happened.
Let me know how you know that so I can read about it...thanks.
You're putting words in my mouth. I said it was legal, I never said it was right.
Let's just agree to disagree. I don't need to be enlighted on how women feel years after having an abortion. I have friends who have had them and now have healthy children and are married.
As far as having a child to give it up for adoption-
Haven't you read those stories as well? I'm sure it's hard to wonder where your kid is, if they're OK, if they're looking for you, if you made the right choice, etc. To tell your children that they have an older brother or sister, but you gave them up, It's just as hard of a decision to make. For myself, I actually think it would be harder to live with that decision. I couldn't carry a child for 9 months and then give them away. It would be easier to never go through it. Again, my opinion.
For the kids at my school who no one wants. So, they're 5 years too late to be adopted and loved by someone? Many of them are special needs kids. I guess people want children, but they're picky as to what they want.
Again...let's agree to disagree.
Let's just agree to disagree. I don't need to be enlighted on how women feel years after having an abortion. I have friends who have had them and now have healthy children and are married.
As far as having a child to give it up for adoption-
Haven't you read those stories as well? I'm sure it's hard to wonder where your kid is, if they're OK, if they're looking for you, if you made the right choice, etc. To tell your children that they have an older brother or sister, but you gave them up, It's just as hard of a decision to make. For myself, I actually think it would be harder to live with that decision. I couldn't carry a child for 9 months and then give them away. It would be easier to never go through it. Again, my opinion.
For the kids at my school who no one wants. So, they're 5 years too late to be adopted and loved by someone? Many of them are special needs kids. I guess people want children, but they're picky as to what they want.
Again...let's agree to disagree.
Write all the papers you want, watch videos and look at pics, but just having the head knowledge doesn't mean you have the heart knowledge. Being legal doesn't make it right. Tell me something... why does a woman who tries an abortion on herself get tried in court for attempted murder? She's not tried for trying to perform a surgery on herself or anything of that nature, but can be convicted of MURDER and yet a doctor, who takes an oath to protect life, has legal grounds to take an innocent, helpless life? THAT, my friend, is one instance of how corrupt and messed up our laws are, so don't tell me that in the end it is legal. Being legal does not make something right.
It's also not about religious conviction. I used to be a Wiccan and then didn't believe in anything and still believed abortion was wrong. By the way, this isn't me arguing. This is me presenting information and facts. I'm not trying to argue with you or anyone else, by any means, so sorry if it comes off that way. I'm trying to have a discussion.
I can see your point and see why you believe abortion might be okay, but those children in foster care are still PEOPLE, with as much right to live as someone who is rich and has both parents who love them and take care of them. Do you honestly think those sweet children are better of not existing? The circumstances they live in are not ideal, but I've met many wonderful, educated people who grew up in foster care for some or all of their lives. Our circumstances can either refine our character or break us down.
People don't want to adopt grown children, they want babies. But women are ABORTING their babies instead of giving them up for adoption. It's like a CATCH-22. Unfortunately, the government can't pick and choose who is reproductive and who can have babies and be FIT parents. Sometimes people do drugs, drink, abuse, neglect, and while the foster system isn't perfect, neither are laws on abortion.
There are actually more abortions performed on educated women who have financial stability.
I just met a homeless girl a few weeks ago who has a 18 month old, a 3 month old, and is currently pregnant again. Abortion never entered her mind. While her circumstances are not ideal, like I said before, she is TRYING to make it work.
I come from a large family who was poverty-stricken while I was growing up, at one point living out of a car. But I'm not stupid, I'm not an awful, ill-mannered person. I got straight A's, I read every single day, I love learning, and I have very good manners.
Circumstances should not DEFINE us as human beings. I just don't see how anyone, especially a mother and teacher, can think killing human lives as "okay" because "in the end, it's still legal". You know, you don't have to read stories on abortion, but if you truly want to understand both sides, then read stories from women who've had them and thought, "If I only hadn't, we WOULD have made it work...".
I'm not trying to make you change your POV, but give you more insight. You can take it or leave it, of course. I'm sure a perfect society would be one where everyone is upper class and has both parents who love them, but not everyone's life is a fairytale story.
It's also not about religious conviction. I used to be a Wiccan and then didn't believe in anything and still believed abortion was wrong. By the way, this isn't me arguing. This is me presenting information and facts. I'm not trying to argue with you or anyone else, by any means, so sorry if it comes off that way. I'm trying to have a discussion.
I can see your point and see why you believe abortion might be okay, but those children in foster care are still PEOPLE, with as much right to live as someone who is rich and has both parents who love them and take care of them. Do you honestly think those sweet children are better of not existing? The circumstances they live in are not ideal, but I've met many wonderful, educated people who grew up in foster care for some or all of their lives. Our circumstances can either refine our character or break us down.
People don't want to adopt grown children, they want babies. But women are ABORTING their babies instead of giving them up for adoption. It's like a CATCH-22. Unfortunately, the government can't pick and choose who is reproductive and who can have babies and be FIT parents. Sometimes people do drugs, drink, abuse, neglect, and while the foster system isn't perfect, neither are laws on abortion.
There are actually more abortions performed on educated women who have financial stability.
I just met a homeless girl a few weeks ago who has a 18 month old, a 3 month old, and is currently pregnant again. Abortion never entered her mind. While her circumstances are not ideal, like I said before, she is TRYING to make it work.
I come from a large family who was poverty-stricken while I was growing up, at one point living out of a car. But I'm not stupid, I'm not an awful, ill-mannered person. I got straight A's, I read every single day, I love learning, and I have very good manners.
Circumstances should not DEFINE us as human beings. I just don't see how anyone, especially a mother and teacher, can think killing human lives as "okay" because "in the end, it's still legal". You know, you don't have to read stories on abortion, but if you truly want to understand both sides, then read stories from women who've had them and thought, "If I only hadn't, we WOULD have made it work...".
I'm not trying to make you change your POV, but give you more insight. You can take it or leave it, of course. I'm sure a perfect society would be one where everyone is upper class and has both parents who love them, but not everyone's life is a fairytale story.
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