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my hubbys sister

Is it bad I think her baby should be taken from her?. Before I get neg response I'll tell you what this poor baby is going to have to deal with . one her living conditions are nasty as hell this girl still lives with her mother in a tiny tiny room the only place she could put her baby is Inthe asame room she keeps four rabbits and let's her dogs and cats poop and strange bugs cover the walls she has a total of three dogs in her room that never go outside to potty and atleast  that I know of siix cats in her room and a lizard now mind this is just her room that's not the animals outside of her room and the ones they keep outside the entire house isfilled with nasty animals fleas and dog poop and cat ppop and pee and non of them that live their see anything wrong with this  she doesn't nor has she ever worked she sleeps allll day and allll night and I have a screenshot of her saying on Facebook that even though she's pregnant her animals are her babies and will come first like how can you put an animal before a child???!!.I got rid of my cat because he wasn't safe for my baby and I feel not a single regret for it and not only does this baby she's bringing into the world not going to have a clean place to lay its poor head but this ***** still smokes pot and smokes cigarettes and she's doing pills I feel so bad for her baby its not funny I don't want to see it live with her because it won't  be sanitary but I don't want to see it end up in a foster home either....
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I agree with everyone else, cps and animal control need to be called before the baby arrives. Not only will the the child be at risk but those poor animals need to be with someone that can take care of them. As for the bugs, there are people that you can call to come out that can get rid of them. Personally, we have a roach infestation that has gotten worse thanks to the weather we have been having down here in Louisiana but we have an exterminator coming out every month and the infestation has gone down significantly. And in all honesty, nothing you say or do will help unless she wants the help, it will go in one ear and out the other. If she really wants to do right by not only her child but her pets as well then cps can get her the help she needs.
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Thanks for all your help everyone I'll keep you updated
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973741 tn?1342342773
Yes, there is a big difference.  Honestly, you describe someone that may have way too much going on to care for her child.  Don't be afraid to do the right thing.  Hoarding is an illness hon and kids that grow up in that have health concerns.  You need to not worry about repercussions.  She'll either get help she needs to improve things or she won't but the baby needs to be safe either way.  good luck
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Theirs a difference between rescueing and just hoarding she hoards these poor animals and doesn't clean up after any of them I even bought her masks to use to clean the liter boxes and last I check they were still in the Walmart bag I gave them to her in  I mean I can understand her wanting to have pets but she was doing nothing to prevent getting pregnant not that theirs a problem with that but as soon as she found out she should have started changing and after everything and the years of cat and dog feces over the house the house would prob need to be condemebed theirs not a spot on the floor that's not sticky or wet from cat pee and the smell is god awful you can smell you before you even go into the house
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Before I had my first baby I ran a small cat rescue and we had twenty something cats waiting to be homed. I got pregnant and had our baby and we had good turn over with getting homes for the cats but there was always more due to pet owners like you are describing. Cps does not care how many animals you have but they do look at how they are cared for, if you can't care for a pet you can't care for a child. Someone had the thought that it was child abuse for us to run a rescue in the place we lived with our baby especially because it was cats, they called cps. Cps came out and was very confused because we worked with a vet and all the cats were fully vetted, washed weekly, had food bowls cleaned and filled daily and we had electric litter boxes that cleaned itself after each use and we emptied those daily. They thought it was very funny but was upset about the waste of time.

If you go ahead and call they can tell them what needs to be cleaned and that they need to get rid of the insects and the animals need a vet. If you call animal abuse on them they can give the same demands and remove the animals if they are not cared for. This really does need to be done before that poor baby gets there and personally I would be worried about the animals because they are suffering now. That is just sad that they are that lazy and let it get that bad what those animals are going through and what that poor baby will be brought into. Some people should just be ashamed of themselves.
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Foster care would be temporary.  CPS has a goal of reuniting families. The mother just has to comply with what they ask of her.  She may have to take parenting classes, get rid of the pets, get the house taken care of, etc.  This is not a bad thing!!  It's what she needs.  You can't tell her to do that.  You can't offer her the resources CPS can to help her.  good luck
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Don't take your baby There, it sounds gross and unfit to even visit.
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If you report,, you take all the pressure off of yourself.  The agency will do the investigating and hard stuff.  If they deem an issue, they take action.  And they don't WANT to do that unless they have to and if they have to, then it's right for the baby.  
so, don't be afraid to alert the agency.  And remember, they will offer her help to improve her lifestyle.  good luck
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I just dont want to see the baby end up in.foster care I'm going to try and have a long talk with her but its hard because she thinks she's always right and that her way is best
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You need to report her asap so that she has as much time as possible to make necessary changes before her baby arrives. It is definitely difficult when you're talking about family, but this child will also be family and it sounds like you might be the only person he or she has looking out for her. At the end of the day, your husbands sister is an adult who needs to take responsibility for herself. The baby is a child who needs those around him or her to take responsibility on their behalf.
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Considering the place is my husbands mothers she expects me to bring my baby their and its not happening I won't even eat their because they let their animals eat off the same plate their eating from
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I just need to sit down and think about the best choice in this situation but I must think.of my own child.also because I won't have mine their
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I'd anonymously call cps and they'll show up check the house and see the conditions and hopefully take the baby
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Call cps and animal control or whoever deals with animal abuse in your area. They will get fined and have the animals removed if it is as bad as you say.
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Normally with fleas you can use lemon cleaner to help drive them out. A bomb is last resort and only a severe infestation would need it. They need their pets removed also.
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Her house is so bad with fleas they have to do a flea bomb
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Anyone that lets their baby live in filth should have to answer to cps. Animal urine and feces can cause serious health problems like respiratory issues, brain tumors  and swelling, tumors in other parts of the body. You can die from smelling the poo and pee of anything. If you have a baby you should keep your living conditions clean and insects can spread diseases. Her conditions sound gross and unsafe/unhealthy for baby.

There is nothing wrong with having pets when you have a baby in the house and pets are not dangerous for baby. I have had cats dogs and more with pregnancy and baby in home. All my pets normally stay inside the house and never any issues but you have to care for pets. If you can not properly care for a pet or a few pet than you can't properly care for a baby. Pets need to be bathed or properly cleaned, food bowls washed and filled daily, taken out to potty many times a day or have their bathroom area cleaned a few times daily. They are a lot of work but so are babies, if she can't keep up after a few pets I would hate to see how she cares for her baby.
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It is very hard to think of a struggling mother having her baby taken but the child has to come first.  They will try to help the mother deal with her struggles but if she is not providing a safe or appropriate environment for the child for ANY reason, the baby should not be in her care.  

It's sad when it happens and truthfully, statistically, mothers get their kids back by doing what CPS tells them to do.  If their drug habit is so bad or for some other reason they aren't able to rectify the situation, then it is right for their child to not be in their care.  

luck to all and don't be afraid to do the right thing (knowing that YOU are not taking the child, you are alerting the situation to people that can A. help and B. do what is best the child ONLY if they agree about the risks in the home).  
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No, in response to your question.  If you fear for a child, it is always the right thing to do to call CPS to investigate.  They have to agree that it is a bad situation for a child and most agencies do want to keep families together so will offer things like classes and opportunities to fix the things that are not good for the baby (be it an out of control, filthy house, to drug habit, etc.) and return babies when those things are addressed.  

but it is the right thing to do to put an innocent child first.  I commend you for considering it because it isn't easy.  
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Have you tried to help her and her baby? I'm sure she doesn't like the condition she is in for her baby or herself. If she doesn't have a job maybe she needs help finding someone to watch the baby for her while she is there. I'm sure she's struggling. Taking her baby would be awful. Some mothers deserve it but I believe this one just needs help because she has no where else to go. I would love to help them both who am I.
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And if cps  does take the baby her mom can't take it cause that's who she lives with and none of her other family is capable of taking in a baby and raising it proberly and I do have pics of their house and what she has said on Facebook she even has said that all baby's are hidious when their born!.I'm sorry but babies are adorable and how someone could sit and say others and even her own baby arevgoing to be ugly just eats me up inside and makes me think she's not going to properly take care of hers she's only four months pregnant and I think her doc knows something is wrote g because she's had five ultrasounds and the baby is sooooo tiny
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If I could I would take the baby but only problem Is I'm 33 weeks and about to have my own and I'm a first time mom so two babies would overwhelm me or else I would take the baby and trust me I'm not the only person who has said that their going to call on her if she doesn't change I'm hoping once she realizes theirs another being inside of her then she will change and if not then she never will thanks for the support and advice cause my husband doesn't seem to care and I only care for the well being of the baby inside of her and I only hope for both their sakes she changes
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They definitely need to take the babiy from her!! Nasty with every sense of the word!! What choice of a mother to have.
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Yes I'm not sure how well off you are or if you could take her baby in. I definitely think someone in the family should take the baby. It is your boyfriends neice/nephew. If there is anyone else in the family you could talk to and see how something like that would work and all the legal stuff behind it. You would definitely want someone to help you do research because you have a lot on your plate just being pregnant yourself.
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