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low libido High Testosterone

by jebby, Feb 10, 2008 06:30PM
Tags: erection
I have been experiencing very low libido. I have been tested for various labs, my testosterone tests out high at 865 total, and high bioavailable...I've seen endocrinologists,etc and everything they test appears high normal...I am also physically fit, a body builder, drink rarely, don't smoke...I am absolutely perplexed...I used to be a raging animal sexually and it is as though it has simply shut off. It also effects my ability to maintain and achieve erections. I thought it could be low testosterone...but apparently not...I still get night-time erections, but then when I wake up in the AM it is like they disappear and it takes tremendous amounts of  enticement to get me excited. I also noticed that I don't feel the same sensation...What possible causes could it be? It is quit stressing...I have read similar stories on here...I am 33 years old...could my cortisol levels be too high?  I am willing to test anything?
Member Comments (11)

by Vanessa Lacuesta, Feb 11, 2008 08:11AM
Hi,

You have mentioned that you still maintain nighttime erections. In this case your urologist may be able to help you determine how many times each night you experience the erections. Also, erectile problems may be due to mechanical or psychological factors.It is best to determine which is more involved here.

Aside from a urologist and endocrinologist, a sex therapist may be able to help. Psychological factors may be very subtle to pinpoint. Hav a complete assssment done. Hormonal imbalance may present with other symptoms as well.In your case you haven't mentioned of any. Look deep into the situation and consider and possible stressors that may have contributed to your condition.

by jebby, Feb 14, 2008 04:33PM
To: Vanessa Lacuesta
Vanessa, I guess I failed to mention that my problem first began about 5 years ago when I used an over-the-counter body building andro product...It took my sex-drive away and ever since then I haven't been the same...The bottom line is I just feel lifeless in the whole sex department...I went from 100mph down to zero instantly...It wouldn't matter if miss america was in front of me...whereas before I would probably chase miss america like a hungry wolf...don't mind my comparisons...I am just trying to describe as strongly as I can the whole 180 degree turn around....Nothing seems to get me aroused...I don't get it...

by NEIL9, Feb 15, 2008 10:04AM
To: jebby
hi there have read your question on feb 8th and 14th . my story is basically very simalar to yours . i will be posting a question of my own later . you may find it helpfull to read my story and there answers . good luck mate . Neil

by Vanessa Lacuesta, Feb 15, 2008 11:07AM
Hi,

Have you mentioned prior use of androgen products to your physician? Are you still taking the supplements? Some supplements like anabolic steroids promote tissue building properties of androgens or testoserone  rather than its sex associated properties.Your intake of the supplements may have directly contrinbuted to your symptom.

Discuss this with your physician.If you are still taking the supplement, it is best to inform your physician if stopping the supplements may require tapering it first

by jebby, Feb 22, 2008 09:19PM
To: Vanessa Lacuesta
Vanessa, yes, I have mentioned all the prior use of androgen products. Infact a doctor placed me on testosterone after testing low, which I believe was caused by the over the counter andro product, (I am 100% certain), Anyway, I stopped using testosterone products nearly two years ago...because I didn't feel good, my doctor wasn't testing my levels, it was just a big mess...I was basically self medicating...so, I decided I am going to try to get my natural body kickstarted...But, I tell you it is hard once you stop any kind of testosterone, because there is that period of time where you feel like ****, mentally, physically, etc...plus just everyday relationship stressors...anyway...About one month ago, I went to the Mayo Clinic to see an endocrinologist. All my hormone levels were tested and my free and bioavailable were excellent in the upper one-third of the reference range, and my total testosterone was at 869...I was taking bromocriptine and an over the counter herbal supplement called Eurycoma longifolia for about 30 days until about one week prior to being tested at the Mayo Clinic...The bromocriptine was prescribed because of elevated prolactin while on testosterone a year earlier and I had extra left over pills, so I wanted to see what they would do...as, on several occassions my prolactin at baseline tested to be slightly eleveated...anyway...the Eurycoma longifolia (aka LJ 100) is an over the counter plant/herb supplement that is touted to naturally enhance LH production,(Apparently, there are clinical studies supporting this) which in turn results in elevated endogenous testosterone production..I truly believe that this LJ 100 works, because I had my baseline testosterone checked about a year earlier after ceasing all testosterone products for 5 months and my levels were no were near this 869, .Anyway, my doctor wants me to stay off everything...for two months and then retest to see what my natural baseline is...makes sense...I have about one month to go. Over the last month, I have noticed strength loss in the gym, increased joint pains, especially in my hips and joints, which I really can't attribute to activity, and virtually no libido...One thing I recently came across was information about Hemochromatosis...unexplained joint pains, loss of libido, loss of erections, etc...many doctors don't even consider testing for this...I am going to request that the tests to check my iron levels be done to at least eliminate or determine if this may be my problem...Because when my hormones tested high normal, I still didn't feel like myself...low to no sex drive, erection difficulties, chronic fatigue...I honestly don't understand this...I do feel that my body naturally has the capacity to produce more than adequate amounts of testosterone...since, I apparently check out hormonally fine, but I still present with clinical symptoms...That is why I am thinking about other medical possibilitites...I am not crazy, etc...It's like my sex drive and interest in sex is completely turned off...before, it was like on auto pilot, I never had to do anything and it was going through my mind all day long, and I never had any performance problems...I am open minded to the possibility that it could be mental, but, I seriously doubt it...I have tried wellbutrin at the suggestion of a psychiatrist, which didn't affect my libido at all or erectily function...I have talked to psychiatrists as I work with them and nothing has resulted....In my heart of hearts, I know that something is physically wrong, I just dont' know exactly what, but I do know how I feel and it is real. My joint pains, when walking and sharp pains that occur if I move a certain way...I am not imagining it...It's hard to convince physicians that look at my hormone profile and my physical physique...I think they think I am crazy, which just adds to my feeling of futility in finding a answer to my issue...I mentally push myself everyday and live with the joint pain and force myself to stay active, but inside I am struggling...but everyone else looks at me, including doctors and sees a physically fit person and concludes that there is no way...anyway, I almost feel as though I am going to ultimately be the one to discover an answer through research and seeking information and then presenting to my doctor...to at least check out...

by jebby, Feb 22, 2008 09:24PM
To: NEIL9
Neil, How can I find your story...I don't know where to look?

by propeciauser, Sep 07, 2008 03:11PM
To: jebby
I am a 24 year old male. I have the same symptoms as you. I suddenly lost my sex drive in June 2007. I used a drug for hair loss called Propecia. This drug stops the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestoserone, which effectively increases the body's testoserone levels (at least temporarily).

I feel that this problem is somewhat similar to users who use anabolic supplements, so I am wondering if our problems can be related. I feel very healthy except for the fact that I have NO libido, whereas before my libido was insatiable. I have seen many doctors and done blood tests, but can't find any abnomalities.

Since nothing can be found in lab tests, doctors conclude that it is psychological, but I am certain that it is not. I have been open to that possibility, but my libido has always been something that controlled me, I could never control my urges. And my libido is literally non-existent -- never get excited by the thought of sex or attractive girls anymore. I have lost all my morning erections, whereas before I would have to wait for my erections to come down every morning before I urinated.

Do you have any updates?

by F47D00d, Mar 24, 2009 05:51PM
To: Jebby
Have you tried taking a small dose of Arimidex?  I've been on Testosterone for the past year and, without a bi-weekly dose of Arimidex, I'm limp and completely disinterested.

by xr4tiguy, Sep 26, 2009 10:01AM
To: jebby and F47D00d
Jebby, I've had the exact same issues as you for several years now...I am completely clueless and frustrated to no end. Same as you, all my bloodwork is tesing high and my doctors are stumped. I've tried all kinds of suplimentation and nothing has worked. Have you gotten an answer yet? Cialis does the trick, but has bad side effects: serious depression, from sweats to chills, lack of motivation and the list goes on so I try not to take it. I used to work out ALL the time and then 1day no sexdrive and I just had no urge to workout...I try to make myself work out but it's not the same as before. Unlike you though I never took any andro products...any answers yet?

To  F47D00d: why are you taking a drug used for postmenopausal women?

by kevandbrid, Sep 27, 2009 12:53PM
To: Jebby
Jebby, I am in the same boat as you, except I have a history of using anabolics.  I have been going to see a hormone specialist at bodylogicMD (check out their website bodylogicmd.com.)  Been taking testosterone shots and Arimedix for about a year, however libido still *****.  The testosterone and training leave me with a well fit lean body, but with low/no libido.  I wish I had some answers for you but you are not alone.

by kingscorpio, Oct 22, 2009 06:01PM
To: jebby
I am a 37 yr old male in the same kind of trouble as you guys.Brief history is as follows...
-use of various anabolics from age 24 to 30.Hypogonadism as a result.
-Hormone replacement therapy as of age 30,100mg of Test Cypionate weekly.
-Everything was fine and a high drive up until I started using an OTC anabolic(M1T) back in spring 2007.Honestly I took it for about 6 months straight.Things have NEVER gone back to normal,even with the weekly RT.I have seen a urologist and am currently running extensive tests with an expert in endocrinology.My test and free test is in the normal range.However my DHEA,LH and FSH are virtually at zero.My prolactin is near the upper limit.I am frustrated and my wife is fed up.I have occasional night erections which disappear upon waking.No daytime erections and no drive whatsoever.I go for months with no sex or self-sex.Levitra etc is useless as there is no drive behind it.I am desperate to go back to normal.I was thinking of ordering this product by Dr.Ray Sahelian called PassionRX.Has any one tried it?
    Any ideas?Anyone?
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