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How fast can an Endometrioma grow??

by crazyladi99, Mar 16, 2006 12:00AM
Just wondering if anyone can shed some light on how fast an endometrioma cyst can grow.  I have surgery in May and the cyst as of Jan 21st was 10.20cm can it grow alot more?
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by MickeyVicki, Mar 16, 2006 12:00AM
They can grow very quickly.  Mine more than doubled in a few weeks.  I should add, however, that my cyst was likely four or possibly more months 'old' before it was discovered.  Also, you will know if it is growing as the pressure and pain will increase.

by greenThumbs, Mar 16, 2006 12:00AM
Can these cysts be in the ovary?

by JGMom, Mar 17, 2006 12:00AM
I just had my post-op today.  Had an endometrioma removed on my left ovary.  It had been around 6cms and then grew to around 7cms over the pd of a few days a few months back.  Then it held steady as I was getting tests for hypertension - I had it scanned a bunch of times over the pd of 4 mos (from time I discovered it to when it was removed - I know it was there before they saw it on a scan).  I had it scanned less than a month before my surgery to remove it and it had grown quite a bit bigger by the time they removed it.  It was around softball sized.  



Yes, endo can be in the ovaries and they may not pick it up as a cyst on a scan, but just say one ovary is larger than the other or something like that (if it is in one ovary and not the other).  That's what happened to me years ago when I had an endometrioma.  The other ovary had endo cysts w/in it and it was also removed.  That extent of the endo didn't show up on the scans I had.  It was an ugly surprise during surgery.  



I had also been scared b/c they were doing doppler for blood flow on the thing when I was getting scanned and it was obviously showing something.  They kept telling me that that's normal, but you know you always think of cancer making its own blood supply.  I found a couple of articles talking about how endo can set up its own blood supply, so I kept trying to take small comfort in that.  Then today at the post-op, the Dr had pictures showing the endometrioma w/ its own blood supply.  Just wanted to share that in case anyone else is freaking out about the blood supply thing being a bad sign.

by crazyladi99, Mar 17, 2006 12:00AM
what if it is behind the uterus? could it be on the uterus?  will they hve to remove it?

by Gatsby, Mar 17, 2006 12:00AM
We will have to add the bit about endo making it's own blood supply to the 99% speech!  But yes, these things can grow very fast.  Behind the uterus, the dr should be able to move the uterus to get to the polyp.

~Tascha

by JGMom, Mar 18, 2006 12:00AM
To: crazy
It can be on your uterus, behind your uterus - it can be all over that area.  I had it connecting my uterus to my bowel and the tubes were adhered and my renal artery was adhered - everything was stuck together and it was all over the place.  



They don't *have* to remove anything that you don't want them to remove.  Remember you are in control of that.  You just make your wishes clear before surgery and consent only to what you want to consent to.  



I consented to have both ovaries and my uterus removed ahead of time in the event that endo was all over the place (which turned out to be the case) because I am done having children, I'm 44, and I had other health problems which I hoped killing off the endo for good (by taking away estrogen) would help.  This was the best decision for me at this time.  My uterus was only left in b/c it was so involved w/ my bowel that I would have had to have my bowel resected to get it out.  



When I was younger and had endo, I only agreed to removal of the ovarian endometrioma - not even the affected ovary.  I wanted to have children and I wanted my fertility preserved.  So it's all really up to you and the factors in your life that would influence your decision.  The Drs can give their advice and you can weigh it and get 2nd and 3rd opinions etc.  



I like to ask Drs what they would do in my situation (if they are a woman) or if it's a man, what they would advise their wives or daughters to do.  It sort of gets them to approach it more personally and think about you as a person w/ a life instead of "a case of endometriosis" or other problem.  Then they also are less apt to take your questioning personally b/c they know you are thinking of it on a personal level instead of rejecting or questioning their advice.

by crazyladi99, Mar 18, 2006 12:00AM
To: JGMom
i have bowel problems as well and i am very scared that it is there too.  So if it is what do they do?    I had surgery on my small intestine when i was 10, would the scar tissue attatch to that area?  I am also 28 and have one child and maybe because all that i have been through with this and the whole FMS and CFS i am not sure if I want anymore kids and i guess i can always adopt, should i if they ask to remove everything do it?

by JGMom, Mar 19, 2006 12:00AM
To: crazy
Whether to remove everything is a personal decision.  You are so young though.  I don't think personally I would get everything removed at your age unless I was absolutely sure I didn't want any more children.  You are also so young to be in surgical menopause.   I'm 16 yrs older than you, so my decision was different.  



Also I think the CFS etc can be related to your endo and so there is hope there that getting the endo under control could help with the symptoms of these other problems.



Since you are not trying to have children right now, you could always opt to try simulating pregnancy or menopause w/ either BC pills (where you never get your pd) or something like Lupron where you trick your body into believing it's in menopause.  I found the Lupron to be really tough - hot flashes and sweats.  But maybe you wouldn't and you could stand to do it for a few months (they recommended 4-6 for me).  At least that's reversible - you can stop it any time and don't lose organs you can't ever replace.



ALso, you may find that once you get surgery, things get better.  



Did your endo improve as far as you can tell after you had your child?  Many people see a significant improvement after pregnancy, but some people end up w/ a worse case (just like other autoimmune diseases during pregnancies).  I was thinking if you saw an improvement after pregnancy, maybe that would be a clue to try the simulated pregnancy route after you get surgery?

by ShellyBelly18, Mar 19, 2006 12:00AM
Just got home from having surgery. I had a 7 cm. mass which was suspicious for ovarian cancer. It thank God turned out to be an endometrioma. It completely took over my left ovary, had started in the right, was in my peritenium and next would be the uterus. I had it all taken out because I am done having children. I am only 38. So that was a hard decision, but you just don't know what you are going to find until you get in there.



It can grow VERY fast. My doctor told me mine was there probably no longer than 6 months, most likely only a couple.



Hope it helps.



Michele K.

by Cornpatch, Mar 19, 2006 12:00AM
Hello , I just signed up for this forum. I have just had surgery for a prolapsed bladder. My Dr. said my ovary had grown to my vaginal wall. (I had uterus removed 2 years ago). I also have fibro,cfs,ibs, and diverticulitis throughout my whole colon. He mentioned I had a lot of adhesions that he removed. sooo painful! I had 2 c-sections over 20 years ago. Anyway, I was wondering is there a differance between endo and adhesions. Especially to that magnitude. I've been bounced from dr to dr for a long time. I've thought that I,ve had endo before, but my dr says no. I'm very depressed and confused. I live a life of pain. If anyone has a comment on this I would so appreciate it. Thanx, Cornpatch

by crazyladi99, Mar 19, 2006 12:00AM
To: JGMOM,Cornpatch
JGmom when i was pregnant i felt fine but i really done remember because of the situation i was in , but i can tell you that since my daughter has been born and she is almost three it has gotten worse.  expesually since November.  



Cornpatch

i understand your chronic pain as well i have lived it for almost 13 yrs now.  I dont care what it takes at this moment i want it all gone so that i dont feel like this anymore

by BlueEndo, Sep 17, 2007 10:09PM
To: All
Hi Anyone who wants to listen:
    I am 38 years old and have two beautiful daughters, 19 and 15. I had my wound taken out at age 29, due due to Endo. I wasn't home a week when I would fall to the floor in pain, they told me it would get better, its takes about 6 months to get over the surgery. I waited patiently, in 6 months I was no better. I switched doctors and the surgery removed my tube due to Endo. The doctor cleaned up my two ovaries be