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Is there an altenative to narcotics for pain relief? I have tried the neurontin, and topomax but they provided NO relief. I get spinal epidurals every six-eight weeks which only provide about 7-10 days relief. 3yrs ago I had a lumbar laminectomy and got a disc space infection from the operation which went undiagnosed for approx. 3.5 months. As a result the infection destroyed what I had left of a Disc and progressed into osteomylitis. The damage caused by the infection required a second operation which involved fusing my vertabrae and installing rods and screws to stabaize my spine. Following the operation I was in ICU for three days. I was MISERABLE. I still have considerable nerve pain in my hip and leg as well as my entire lower back. I am currently being treated by a pain specialist that performs epidurals and perscribes morphine er and ir. I take a total of about 250mg per day which takes the edge off of the pain.
I have been reading the posts on this board because I know I am taking an extremely addictive medication and am wondering if they are able to correct my back condition am I going to have a problem going off these meds? I have forgotten to take a dose before and started yawning for no reason which I have read is a symptom of addiction?? Thanks in advance for your professional and experienced advice....Tom G.
I have been reading the posts on this board because I know I am taking an extremely addictive medication and am wondering if they are able to correct my back condition am I going to have a problem going off these meds? I have forgotten to take a dose before and started yawning for no reason which I have read is a symptom of addiction?? Thanks in advance for your professional and experienced advice....Tom G.
Try to relax a bit,you have not sinned.The scripts are legit,just issued to wrong person and will be processed,it is cross refenced on a data base as to whom a presciption is issued to and by which doctor and at the Pharmacy end same thing happens,at the moment the computers are not up to scanning every script in the USA and checking the data base of the doctors submital information on presciptions written and to whom,if the names you chose are actual People with real addresses then it is very unlikely they will get back to you in the the next decade,however as everything becomes computer automated,eventually,a data base will not correlate with another and an alarm bell will go of,even then it may take DEA`s years to follow it up,And if you are eventually caught,by then compassion and rehabilitation for Drug addicts will be the order of the day.
I once manipulated a script and the Pharmacy told me what I had done and said I cannot process this you bad boy,here I will let you out(they had auto locking doors)and thought I was busted,but some people actually understand the extremes an Opioid Addict in pain and withdrawal will go to, to get relief.
Sad the the DEA`s do not have more compassion.Or is that a generalization?.I think so.
I once manipulated a script and the Pharmacy told me what I had done and said I cannot process this you bad boy,here I will let you out(they had auto locking doors)and thought I was busted,but some people actually understand the extremes an Opioid Addict in pain and withdrawal will go to, to get relief.
Sad the the DEA`s do not have more compassion.Or is that a generalization?.I think so.
Lynda, I know what he is going through. This is why I first started coming to this board. I thought something was wrong w/ me to want this medication.
I know why he is scared also. He is worried about being a slave to this medication, and what if its abruptly cut off for some reason. There is much that goes through a painers mind. If his doctor is one the highly "informed" ones, than he will titrate the meds down when necessary. There are ways to take care of the physical dependance....there are meds for this too.
Best wishes, and God bless you for being so caring. I know how lonely it can be when you feel that everyones abandoned you, and doesn't understand.
Love,
Annie
I know why he is scared also. He is worried about being a slave to this medication, and what if its abruptly cut off for some reason. There is much that goes through a painers mind. If his doctor is one the highly "informed" ones, than he will titrate the meds down when necessary. There are ways to take care of the physical dependance....there are meds for this too.
Best wishes, and God bless you for being so caring. I know how lonely it can be when you feel that everyones abandoned you, and doesn't understand.
Love,
Annie
Hello,it is obvious that your "partner" is not only not ready to deal with his own emotions,but cannot even come remotely close to feeling empathy for you.
The type of Love that he feels for you is very immature type of Symbiotic Romantic Love,this type of love is illusionary,in that it has not more reason to exist than for sake of the desire it perpetuates and attempts to satiate.
If he is as emotionally immature as I suspect,then he probably is sociopathic,meaning anti-social behavour and a type of self hate.He will blame everybody but himself for any problems that arise.This type of person typically must hit rock bottom before starting to enter the world of "self" realization,he is far from resecting himself and will take decades to repair if ever.
If you can survive without him,wash your hands NOW and say goodbye PERMANENTLY,then put it down to experience.
If you are trapped in the same Symbiotic Romantic Love Addiction that he is,you will not do this and will suffer much pain unnecessarily on his behalf with no reward.
It is time to move on from this person,his mother will look after him and you need to create a stable environment for your children.
I have always said it is harder to give up Romantic Love than any Drug of Abuse,if you can get off this crazy type of love,I think you will be happier,it is difficult,but remember to really LOVE him you must leave him PERMANENTLY and move on and put it all behind you.
You are doing very well,from what I can decipher from written word and I am sure in your heart you think you love him,maybe you do,but he cannot and probably not within a decade be able to return that love ,so please move on in life,I know how much it hurts,but pain is one thing,this relationship is doing "damage".
Some men take a long time to grow up and one must experience much pain to learn,he is running from pain,give him back to his mother,you are already mother to your OWN children.
Maybe when he is 58 he will have his act together,I am not writing him off,its just that it takes time,a lot of time to wear your life with pride and not stumble on your ego.
The type of Love that he feels for you is very immature type of Symbiotic Romantic Love,this type of love is illusionary,in that it has not more reason to exist than for sake of the desire it perpetuates and attempts to satiate.
If he is as emotionally immature as I suspect,then he probably is sociopathic,meaning anti-social behavour and a type of self hate.He will blame everybody but himself for any problems that arise.This type of person typically must hit rock bottom before starting to enter the world of "self" realization,he is far from resecting himself and will take decades to repair if ever.
If you can survive without him,wash your hands NOW and say goodbye PERMANENTLY,then put it down to experience.
If you are trapped in the same Symbiotic Romantic Love Addiction that he is,you will not do this and will suffer much pain unnecessarily on his behalf with no reward.
It is time to move on from this person,his mother will look after him and you need to create a stable environment for your children.
I have always said it is harder to give up Romantic Love than any Drug of Abuse,if you can get off this crazy type of love,I think you will be happier,it is difficult,but remember to really LOVE him you must leave him PERMANENTLY and move on and put it all behind you.
You are doing very well,from what I can decipher from written word and I am sure in your heart you think you love him,maybe you do,but he cannot and probably not within a decade be able to return that love ,so please move on in life,I know how much it hurts,but pain is one thing,this relationship is doing "damage".
Some men take a long time to grow up and one must experience much pain to learn,he is running from pain,give him back to his mother,you are already mother to your OWN children.
Maybe when he is 58 he will have his act together,I am not writing him off,its just that it takes time,a lot of time to wear your life with pride and not stumble on your ego.
Thank you. I know your right. I have to leave this relationship behind. I do love him enough to let him go. I stayed with him and stayed loyal to him the past 2 years, and you are right, he is emotionally and mentally stunted. He could not show any emotion other than anger. For the past 2 years he couldn't laugh, enjoy food, movies, nothing. He's like a zombie. He wouldn't want and couldn't have sex, but I hung in there anyway. I finally realized through theraphy and Al-anon that I was an enabler. I got this great book at the Library, 'Facing Love Addiction, by Pia Melody" I recommend this book for everyone. It talks about couples, addictions, and how we relate to each other. I do wish him well, he had everything, now he hardly has anything. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to care. He's aged tremendously from doing drugs, he looks more like 58, than 38 in such a short time. One day at a time, and as Al-anon says 'God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, and Wisdom to know the difference'. I'm still afraid what he will do if the Dr. cuts him off, I can't imagine a family Dr. giving him methadone, over long periods of time. I would think the pharmacy would be suspious. Also, I live in Va. there have been major drug busts here, Oxycotin. There have been 37 deaths from overdoses in the past year, theres talk on TV daily about the DEA tracking the use of this drug, by whom and which Drs. I hope it doesn't effect those that really need it for pain. This is a wonderful forum, it's so full of compassion, and a needed dose of reality, thank you so much. Love Susan
oo many people in this country sfffer needlessly with pain, this past dec. when my my was dyding they refused to increase or change her meds because she might beocme addicted..My God the woman was dying on christmas morning she passed away and then God we had found a doc that was willing to treat her..Someday when the time is right your husband will not have to take his MS contin, my husband and I are both chronic pain people..so I know how you and Tom feel...You are a very warm a caring person thea loves her husbnnd very much..Good luck to the both you you and Bod blees you love cindi
G'Morning Everyone!
I want to Thank each and every one of you who responded to Tom's posting about his back pain and use of MS Contin. I wish I could do it in person, but.....
He HATES being chained to the MS CONTIN more than anything. He HATES not being able to do the things he used to be able to do less than 2 years ago, and you guys and gals gave him the support, understanding and compassion he needed. And you told him the same thing I told him...."take your meds and don't suffer unneedlessly". He's lucky to have a doctor that believes he is in chronic pain and is willing to prescribe the RX's he needs instead of making him suffer on a daily basis. And he still does, trying to stay at a minimum of a daily dosage.
Yes, he is probably addicted to the MS Contin. But being the strong man that he is, he will one day he kick the pills, should his back "ever" become somewhat normal. I have reassurred him that there is help out there once he can start to wean himself off the drug. He's more physically addicted than mentally. Even though, mentally he tears himself up when he has to take more than usual. He absoulty hates the stuff! He never takes more than he has to (and if he does, he is bed ridden) and that's a minimum amount as it is. I have seen him in pain, but refusing to dose himself to relieve it and try to continue on with life.
He's more of a lurker here, but does pretty much read your postings on a daily basis (if he can get on the computer:) and listens to what YOU say.
One day, hopefully, he won't be in so much pain. Then "WE" can use the info we have found on this site to work our way back to a somewhat normal life again without his usage of MS Contin. But for right now and in the near future, our lives revolve around him taking the RX to give him a somewhat "normal and decent" quality of life. Luckily, the Pharmacist is a friend of mine and knows what is going on, so we don't have to deal with people looking down their noses at him. Our family and close friends also know what is going on, and don't judge him. He is more harder on himself than anything and he shouldn't be. He didn't ask for the infection and osteomylitis, which has partially disabled him. It was just bad luck that the Neuro Surgeon poo pooed his pain off as post-op pain, even four months after the 1st surgery.
One day technology will advance to where his problems can be take care of, at least somewhat, to where the lesser drugs can relieve the extreme pain he is in. Hopefully that day will come soon.
Again, Thank You from the bottom of my heart, in the support and understanding that you have shown him. He's a Good Man who drew the short straw when it came to back surgery.
"Toms Wife".............Lynda
I want to Thank each and every one of you who responded to Tom's posting about his back pain and use of MS Contin. I wish I could do it in person, but.....
He HATES being chained to the MS CONTIN more than anything. He HATES not being able to do the things he used to be able to do less than 2 years ago, and you guys and gals gave him the support, understanding and compassion he needed. And you told him the same thing I told him...."take your meds and don't suffer unneedlessly". He's lucky to have a doctor that believes he is in chronic pain and is willing to prescribe the RX's he needs instead of making him suffer on a daily basis. And he still does, trying to stay at a minimum of a daily dosage.
Yes, he is probably addicted to the MS Contin. But being the strong man that he is, he will one day he kick the pills, should his back "ever" become somewhat normal. I have reassurred him that there is help out there once he can start to wean himself off the drug. He's more physically addicted than mentally. Even though, mentally he tears himself up when he has to take more than usual. He absoulty hates the stuff! He never takes more than he has to (and if he does, he is bed ridden) and that's a minimum amount as it is. I have seen him in pain, but refusing to dose himself to relieve it and try to continue on with life.
He's more of a lurker here, but does pretty much read your postings on a daily basis (if he can get on the computer:) and listens to what YOU say.
One day, hopefully, he won't be in so much pain. Then "WE" can use the info we have found on this site to work our way back to a somewhat normal life again without his usage of MS Contin. But for right now and in the near future, our lives revolve around him taking the RX to give him a somewhat "normal and decent" quality of life. Luckily, the Pharmacist is a friend of mine and knows what is going on, so we don't have to deal with people looking down their noses at him. Our family and close friends also know what is going on, and don't judge him. He is more harder on himself than anything and he shouldn't be. He didn't ask for the infection and osteomylitis, which has partially disabled him. It was just bad luck that the Neuro Surgeon poo pooed his pain off as post-op pain, even four months after the 1st surgery.
One day technology will advance to where his problems can be take care of, at least somewhat, to where the lesser drugs can relieve the extreme pain he is in. Hopefully that day will come soon.
Again, Thank You from the bottom of my heart, in the support and understanding that you have shown him. He's a Good Man who drew the short straw when it came to back surgery.
"Toms Wife".............Lynda
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