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Hello,
Is there any alternative narcotic(less potent)that would help with replacing Hydrocodone. I've been taking the prescribed dose of hydro for over a year now. I would like to be done with them but don't want the WD's. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Is there any alternative narcotic(less potent)that would help with replacing Hydrocodone. I've been taking the prescribed dose of hydro for over a year now. I would like to be done with them but don't want the WD's. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
do you want to replace hydro, because you have a pain issue. or, you just don't want to face w/ds? i am currently using buprenex (it's a schedule 5 opiate), to keep for getting the w/ds...i'm tapering the dose down to where i will only use it as needed for migraines (in a perfect world).
it is supposed to be on the market soon - has not been approved by the fda for detox only for pain. so, it makes finding a dr. who will prescribe it VERY difficult...for me anyhow. i live in ma, and the docs here are ultra conservative in my experience. where do you live. if you are in phili or fl, i might be able to tell you of a great clinic.
there is also naltrexone, which will be incorporated into the new buprenex mixture - you can also be prescribed naltrexone by itself, which makes it so if you do use a narcotic while on it, you will not get high.
or...you can be brave and cold turkey it....i'm sure you'll get lots of other advice here. hang in there.
it is supposed to be on the market soon - has not been approved by the fda for detox only for pain. so, it makes finding a dr. who will prescribe it VERY difficult...for me anyhow. i live in ma, and the docs here are ultra conservative in my experience. where do you live. if you are in phili or fl, i might be able to tell you of a great clinic.
there is also naltrexone, which will be incorporated into the new buprenex mixture - you can also be prescribed naltrexone by itself, which makes it so if you do use a narcotic while on it, you will not get high.
or...you can be brave and cold turkey it....i'm sure you'll get lots of other advice here. hang in there.
Thanks for the reply. Pain is managable. Just trying to avoid the WD's. I thought it would be easier to switch all together then the taper thing. Can't seem to do it that way.
my name s michael, am an addict and have been at this fourm
for two months, i went cold turkey, from 15 vikes a day, the only thing that i have taken is the receipe, you can find it further down the fourm, i must say the receipe has really helped with the withdrawls, the hardest part was the 1st week and it was not that bad , the receipe totaly lifted the depressoin,
and that was alway one of the toughest things to deal with in the past , when ever i tryed to kick in the past. it also helped a whole lot with energy. i have 6 weeks clean from the vikes.
the receipe, this fourm and na meeting have gotten me through it thus far.
the receipe
l-tyrosine 6 500mg a day 1st week, cut it in half after that.
b-6 2 100mg a day
vit c
vit a
cal- magnisum combo
copper
magnesee
phousphous. and imoudium for the runs.
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bannas is very good for leg spasams (potasuim)
gatoraide is real good for losy electolites/
and some people suggest xanax to help you sleep ant night.
keep posting, peace
for two months, i went cold turkey, from 15 vikes a day, the only thing that i have taken is the receipe, you can find it further down the fourm, i must say the receipe has really helped with the withdrawls, the hardest part was the 1st week and it was not that bad , the receipe totaly lifted the depressoin,
and that was alway one of the toughest things to deal with in the past , when ever i tryed to kick in the past. it also helped a whole lot with energy. i have 6 weeks clean from the vikes.
the receipe, this fourm and na meeting have gotten me through it thus far.
the receipe
l-tyrosine 6 500mg a day 1st week, cut it in half after that.
b-6 2 100mg a day
vit c
vit a
cal- magnisum combo
copper
magnesee
phousphous. and imoudium for the runs.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
bannas is very good for leg spasams (potasuim)
gatoraide is real good for losy electolites/
and some people suggest xanax to help you sleep ant night.
keep posting, peace
jamawana:
if your looking for a less addictive than hydrp-c, your just like
a whole bunch of people on this forum. you mighr try darvon. i
detoxed out of 150 mg oxy a day usin a schedule like so
4 cap three time a day - day one
3 caps three times a day
2 caps three tiimes a day
1 cap three times a day
1 cap twice a day
1 cap once a day
etc.
this has worked in the past for me. i was supprised as i've always
thought darvon was nothing but a bad joke, not working on pain,etc.
well it works great for withdrawals. so the bup that groovy ment=
tioned. grovy did i e-mail my last sub lingual bup story?
if you have real and serious pain issues, i would suggest you see
a pain/addictiong specialist.
welcome to the forum, ther is always room for JUST ONW MORE ad-
dict to post here on this forum!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
if your looking for a less addictive than hydrp-c, your just like
a whole bunch of people on this forum. you mighr try darvon. i
detoxed out of 150 mg oxy a day usin a schedule like so
4 cap three time a day - day one
3 caps three times a day
2 caps three tiimes a day
1 cap three times a day
1 cap twice a day
1 cap once a day
etc.
this has worked in the past for me. i was supprised as i've always
thought darvon was nothing but a bad joke, not working on pain,etc.
well it works great for withdrawals. so the bup that groovy ment=
tioned. grovy did i e-mail my last sub lingual bup story?
if you have real and serious pain issues, i would suggest you see
a pain/addictiong specialist.
welcome to the forum, ther is always room for JUST ONW MORE ad-
dict to post here on this forum!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
I am using hydro's for pain control, how well does Bup work on pain? Does anyone know if you have to be detoxed completely from hydro's to get on Bup?
Thanks,
Alchemist
Thanks,
Alchemist
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Hi everyone. I know I've mentioned this several times, but it's gotten really bad and I need help. I've been clean from hydros for six weeks. A few weeks before that I was diagnosed with epilepsy and put on anti-seizure meds (Trileptal, but today switched to Tegretol). I finally quit the hydros after I had surgery on March 25 for endo, which took care of my pain issues and allowed me to get off the meds. But I had to go on estrogen since my ovaries were removed. I got clean a week after the surgery.
After I'd been clean for a week I started getting severe migraines. I've always had them, but usually only a few a year. Now I've had probably 25 in the past 5 weeks. I've taken Imitrex when I can afford it, but it's incredibly expensive (paid $156 for six pills yesterday). It usually works, though.
I got a severe migraine yesterday that wouldn't go away. Finally got some Imitrex late in the day, took 2 by the time I went to bed, didn't help. Woke up during the night, took another, was still in severe pain (at least a 9). This morning I went to my doctor. He gave me a shot of Nubain, which buzzed me like mad. But it did help with the migraine, although didn't take it away. I explained how they've gotten so bad and he said it could be from the estrogen. He also said to switch to the Tegretol since that might help. He gave me a prescription for 15 viks. I took 2 tonight. I don't feel like it's a relapse since I needed it so bad for pain. Am I fooling myself; should I have toughed it out? I have three kids to take care of and couldn't even move. I'm still hurting but now it's manageable.
My questions, which the doctors and pharmacists haven't been able to answer: Why am I suddenly getting almost daily, severe migraines? Is it the estrogen, the seizure meds, the detox, or something else? Has anyone else experienced this? Am I a horrible person for taking the viks? I have no refills on it, so when it's gone, it's gone. Will I go through withdrawal again after this, even though it's such a small amount? What can I do about the damn migraines? I can't function! I've tried everything OTC imaginable. I will get more Imitrex this weekend, too. Is anyone on Tegretol or Trileptal, and experiencing this?
I'm sorry so long; I just really need help here. Thank you for any input.
Tracy/tex3
After I'd been clean for a week I started getting severe migraines. I've always had them, but usually only a few a year. Now I've had probably 25 in the past 5 weeks. I've taken Imitrex when I can afford it, but it's incredibly expensive (paid $156 for six pills yesterday). It usually works, though.
I got a severe migraine yesterday that wouldn't go away. Finally got some Imitrex late in the day, took 2 by the time I went to bed, didn't help. Woke up during the night, took another, was still in severe pain (at least a 9). This morning I went to my doctor. He gave me a shot of Nubain, which buzzed me like mad. But it did help with the migraine, although didn't take it away. I explained how they've gotten so bad and he said it could be from the estrogen. He also said to switch to the Tegretol since that might help. He gave me a prescription for 15 viks. I took 2 tonight. I don't feel like it's a relapse since I needed it so bad for pain. Am I fooling myself; should I have toughed it out? I have three kids to take care of and couldn't even move. I'm still hurting but now it's manageable.
My questions, which the doctors and pharmacists haven't been able to answer: Why am I suddenly getting almost daily, severe migraines? Is it the estrogen, the seizure meds, the detox, or something else? Has anyone else experienced this? Am I a horrible person for taking the viks? I have no refills on it, so when it's gone, it's gone. Will I go through withdrawal again after this, even though it's such a small amount? What can I do about the damn migraines? I can't function! I've tried everything OTC imaginable. I will get more Imitrex this weekend, too. Is anyone on Tegretol or Trileptal, and experiencing this?
I'm sorry so long; I just really need help here. Thank you for any input.
Tracy/tex3
hi Good afternoon,its been a beautiful day here,we got a little pool for em and the kids are spashing,i just have to carry lots of pots of hot water down stairs so they dont freeze,but thats begin a mom. I have not looked into any rehabs- it is just not doable right now and i am doing very well with a new drug that i find i can use without craving more then ordered.Mr Mike I was wondering if you could give me a educated opioion on the fetnayl patch- i dont know if u have acess to the graph of peak serum levels on the time release but the way i am reading it it seems to have a peak at around 26hour then again at 80 with the application of the second patch(removing the 1st of course) but begin its fat soluble and concentrates in the dermis,even when removed it continues to release small amounts.I am using 75 mcg Q72h with no breakthrough pain or craving,do you think if i was to wear for say 3-4 cycles then stop,it would be a constant and slow enough release to prevent withdrawl?I am a cubby(well fat) person so i have a large fat store to hold the drug for release.I was just wondering your thoughts,This is a great drug for me,i find it easy to control but i have a latex and adhesive allergy related to my stills disease that make it not a long time solution,when i change the patch more often to prevent my skin from falling off the side effects show up and the dose is harder to control as it works by diffusion from high concentration to low so moving the patch to new spots increases the intial dose release as the fat stores in the new area have no drug yet diffused . thanks laura
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Where are you girl? Pipe in here and let me know what's up, or send an email.
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When you remove your last patch, your fentanyl levels will drop around 50% in 12 to 17 hours. When your levels go low enough, you will go into withdrawal. I have been there myself. And, it is no less severe than any other opiate. Your best bet would be to leave the patch on past the 72hr mark and keep your fingers crossed. When the 72 hours are up, there is still fentanyl left in the patch. It is just a lot less. The patch is a great way to stay maintained on an opioid. You don't get the peaks and valleys like you do on pills.
I meant leave the last patch on past the 72hr mark. It is too bad that you have the skin problem seeing as the fentanyl does work good for you.
ive been on buprenex for 2 months. i had hernia surgery 1 year ago and have nerve damage with constant pain. i was on vics es 15 per day for one year. i know what its like to try and stop. the bups was prescribed for pain and completely blocked any cravings for the vics with no withdrs and helps with the pain. i am also going to pain manag getting injections to try and block the nerve. anyway i swear by the bups and hope to soon ween off. life is pretty much back to normal. good luck singer.
yes, only thru a dr. it sucks for pain tho - might as well take an aspirin. do you need it for detox?
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Hi y'all. If you're around, my experienced friends, will you read my post higher up about my migraines and the prescription I got for Lortab? I'm scared here and need help. I tried to open a new topic but of course couldn't for the past two days. Any help if much appreciated! I feel so bad. tracy
gwh:
where to get darvon...good question. you have to have a Rx from
a md, dds, od, do, dvm,etc.
ya know there used to be a ton of these around 'cause they don't
seem to get too many people high or even relieve pain.
davon,darvocette, propoxephene, etc are all regulated under a C4,
so an rx shouldn't be much more difficult to valium. i think it's
use has fallen way off, except among the older folks. you could
ask your doctor...what's to lose? one thing to remeber, darvon
(propoxihene) does have an addiction potential (SO DOES BUP) so
keep that in mind. the addition potential is very slight compared
to oxy or hydro-c.
yesterday i sarted a detox. i took .2 mg of bup at sunrise. i
took another at lunch. my plan was to take another a bedtime,
but fell asleeep first.my wife got in last evening and knew i
was detoxing before i ever woke to tell her. i guess about an
hour before i awoke, i got real twitchy. other than .5 mg of
klonipin, thats all i've taken. when i awoke, i took another of
bup, but will try to do nothing more. this isn't bad from a 150
mg. oxy a day habit. i seem to notice if i get on the supplements
in the recipe, and stay on them, my w/d are very much reduced
in severity. im a crusty old fart, tough from years of kicking
drugs much more powerful than oxy...iv morphine& dilaudid, smack,
just about every opiate you can find in a large drugstore or
clinic pharmacy. so....maybe the rules of abstenence syndrome are
not evenly applied. the most terrifying drugs to me are the stim-
ulants (coke, speed). like i said i'm an old fart (51). *you kids
ought to listen to me more carefully! with a little bit of luck,
you may last as long as me. of course, it would make a lot more sense to just get off of drugs. as WS Burroughs said, "clearly
opiate abuse is a push a pill of dope around the world with your
nose routine!" i seem to have committed my life to *observations
from the gutter,* but i have kept myself alive much longer than
the rest of the pack! (sometime all tell ya' the story about that
too!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
where to get darvon...good question. you have to have a Rx from
a md, dds, od, do, dvm,etc.
ya know there used to be a ton of these around 'cause they don't
seem to get too many people high or even relieve pain.
davon,darvocette, propoxephene, etc are all regulated under a C4,
so an rx shouldn't be much more difficult to valium. i think it's
use has fallen way off, except among the older folks. you could
ask your doctor...what's to lose? one thing to remeber, darvon
(propoxihene) does have an addiction potential (SO DOES BUP) so
keep that in mind. the addition potential is very slight compared
to oxy or hydro-c.
yesterday i sarted a detox. i took .2 mg of bup at sunrise. i
took another at lunch. my plan was to take another a bedtime,
but fell asleeep first.my wife got in last evening and knew i
was detoxing before i ever woke to tell her. i guess about an
hour before i awoke, i got real twitchy. other than .5 mg of
klonipin, thats all i've taken. when i awoke, i took another of
bup, but will try to do nothing more. this isn't bad from a 150
mg. oxy a day habit. i seem to notice if i get on the supplements
in the recipe, and stay on them, my w/d are very much reduced
in severity. im a crusty old fart, tough from years of kicking
drugs much more powerful than oxy...iv morphine& dilaudid, smack,
just about every opiate you can find in a large drugstore or
clinic pharmacy. so....maybe the rules of abstenence syndrome are
not evenly applied. the most terrifying drugs to me are the stim-
ulants (coke, speed). like i said i'm an old fart (51). *you kids
ought to listen to me more carefully! with a little bit of luck,
you may last as long as me. of course, it would make a lot more sense to just get off of drugs. as WS Burroughs said, "clearly
opiate abuse is a push a pill of dope around the world with your
nose routine!" i seem to have committed my life to *observations
from the gutter,* but i have kept myself alive much longer than
the rest of the pack! (sometime all tell ya' the story about that
too!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
I've written in pieces about what's going on with me right now. I know everyone is busy and I shouldn't keep bugging y'all for help, but thought I'd post below what's going in a more coherent way. So, here it is if anyone can help.
I've been getting severe migraines and freaking about this. Finally went to the doctor yesterday as I've spent $300 on Imitrex in the past three weeks and as of yesterday had had a migrain, severe (9-10) for 36 hours. The Imitrex didn't help at all, and I'd taken the max dose for two days. My doctor gave me a shot of nubain, switched my seizure med to tegretol to try to prevent the headaches, and prescribed 15 lortabs to help until the tegretol started working. I'm taking the meds as prescribed. Three yesterday total, two this morning. Actually it says one at a time but that wouldn't even faze me with my tolerance, so I take two. What I'm worried about is that when I had endo I welcomed the pain because it allowed me to get pills. Now that I'm finally clean, I want to stay that way, and I'm having severe pain for real, pain that I CAN'T handle! I mean it's been sooo bad. I would much rather have no pain and no pills. Of course, I'll only have them for another day, but still. What is really scary is that I feel so good this morning after just one dose. I feel normal again, I have energy, I even have a slight buzz. For six weeks I've struggled daily to get back to normal and fought with all I have to be free of my addiction, and I've succeeded mostly. I've still been dealing with major depression, apathy, no energy, but had hope that it would pass. I've had cravings but never gave in or even really considered it. But I've had one health problem after the other and finally the migraines did me in, then after two little pills I feel like a million bucks again. I know that if I kept it up I would again be in misery, like I was at the end of my addiction when it wasn't even enjoyable. But right now that's hard to remember. So I wonder if after tomorrow I'm going to have to start all over again. I know I can't live as an addict. My husband was grilling me last night; he could tell something was different. But right now my head doesn't hurt, I'm not depressed, I'm about to clean my house...what's up with this? Why can't I feel "normal" without a pill, and why dear god did I have to get the migraines so bad that I needed it? I was winning the good fight! I'm scared. Please help me today not to take any if I don't truly, truly need it.
I feel like a failure. Will I ever be able to live a normal life? I've tried the recipe, been on it for a few weeks now. I'm on anti-depressants. Many times in the past weeks I thought that I don't care if I live or die, other than for my kids. Will I always feel this way? Of course, today I don't but that's because of the hydro. But I woke up with another migraine and it knocked it right out. I remind myself that last night my daughter hurt herself and while I was comforting her, she told me "Mommy, I feel so much better when you are around me. All you have to do is hug me and it makes everything better." Those babies are precious to me and I need to be there for them. But I know the depression and everything else is going to kick right back in. I would never have taken the pills if not for honest, severe pain. I believe that with all my heart. But why, after all this time, did I have to get TRUE pain? I've had at least 25 migraines in the past 35 days, and I reached my breaking point yesterday. Now I feel normal with one dose of hydro and I'm terrified. How can I go back to that black state I've been in for the past few weeks? It lifted for several weeks after my detox, then hit me again the past two weeks.
I'm so sorry this is so long; I'm really scared here and need support. Please, anyone, help me.
tlk/tex3/tracy
I've been getting severe migraines and freaking about this. Finally went to the doctor yesterday as I've spent $300 on Imitrex in the past three weeks and as of yesterday had had a migrain, severe (9-10) for 36 hours. The Imitrex didn't help at all, and I'd taken the max dose for two days. My doctor gave me a shot of nubain, switched my seizure med to tegretol to try to prevent the headaches, and prescribed 15 lortabs to help until the tegretol started working. I'm taking the meds as prescribed. Three yesterday total, two this morning. Actually it says one at a time but that wouldn't even faze me with my tolerance, so I take two. What I'm worried about is that when I had endo I welcomed the pain because it allowed me to get pills. Now that I'm finally clean, I want to stay that way, and I'm having severe pain for real, pain that I CAN'T handle! I mean it's been sooo bad. I would much rather have no pain and no pills. Of course, I'll only have them for another day, but still. What is really scary is that I feel so good this morning after just one dose. I feel normal again, I have energy, I even have a slight buzz. For six weeks I've struggled daily to get back to normal and fought with all I have to be free of my addiction, and I've succeeded mostly. I've still been dealing with major depression, apathy, no energy, but had hope that it would pass. I've had cravings but never gave in or even really considered it. But I've had one health problem after the other and finally the migraines did me in, then after two little pills I feel like a million bucks again. I know that if I kept it up I would again be in misery, like I was at the end of my addiction when it wasn't even enjoyable. But right now that's hard to remember. So I wonder if after tomorrow I'm going to have to start all over again. I know I can't live as an addict. My husband was grilling me last night; he could tell something was different. But right now my head doesn't hurt, I'm not depressed, I'm about to clean my house...what's up with this? Why can't I feel "normal" without a pill, and why dear god did I have to get the migraines so bad that I needed it? I was winning the good fight! I'm scared. Please help me today not to take any if I don't truly, truly need it.
I feel like a failure. Will I ever be able to live a normal life? I've tried the recipe, been on it for a few weeks now. I'm on anti-depressants. Many times in the past weeks I thought that I don't care if I live or die, other than for my kids. Will I always feel this way? Of course, today I don't but that's because of the hydro. But I woke up with another migraine and it knocked it right out. I remind myself that last night my daughter hurt herself and while I was comforting her, she told me "Mommy, I feel so much better when you are around me. All you have to do is hug me and it makes everything better." Those babies are precious to me and I need to be there for them. But I know the depression and everything else is going to kick right back in. I would never have taken the pills if not for honest, severe pain. I believe that with all my heart. But why, after all this time, did I have to get TRUE pain? I've had at least 25 migraines in the past 35 days, and I reached my breaking point yesterday. Now I feel normal with one dose of hydro and I'm terrified. How can I go back to that black state I've been in for the past few weeks? It lifted for several weeks after my detox, then hit me again the past two weeks.
I'm so sorry this is so long; I'm really scared here and need support. Please, anyone, help me.
tlk/tex3/tracy
morning,
Groovy, it sort of is,..........what I mean is, I have been clean, however I feel like I'm experiencing a delayed withdrawal, is that possible?? I started getting the restless leg, tired ext.I don't know what the deal is but its really destroying my will power................... I need to find something that can pull me together otherwise, I feel like I'm gonna lose it. I actually got 1 vicoden the other day and split it into 3 pieces, I thought it wouldn't get me high(which it didn't) but it would relax my leg, but it didn't help. Any words of wisdom??
Skipper, I'd love to hear the stories, how have you been? and stop referring to yourself as an old man, for christ sakes your 51!!!! haha. Anyway, I might try the Norufen that Dive had told me about, it only has a little codeine with ibuprofen.. I need to get something. I hope your doing well.
GWH
Groovy, it sort of is,..........what I mean is, I have been clean, however I feel like I'm experiencing a delayed withdrawal, is that possible?? I started getting the restless leg, tired ext.I don't know what the deal is but its really destroying my will power................... I need to find something that can pull me together otherwise, I feel like I'm gonna lose it. I actually got 1 vicoden the other day and split it into 3 pieces, I thought it wouldn't get me high(which it didn't) but it would relax my leg, but it didn't help. Any words of wisdom??
Skipper, I'd love to hear the stories, how have you been? and stop referring to yourself as an old man, for christ sakes your 51!!!! haha. Anyway, I might try the Norufen that Dive had told me about, it only has a little codeine with ibuprofen.. I need to get something. I hope your doing well.
GWH
Hi G. How long have you been clean? I still get the restless leg, and it's been six weeks for me. It comes and goes. Cravings too. See my post above about my latest battle. You've been an inspiration to me here.
Many times I had to go to work in WDs. In fact, my second day on the job when I started at the Sheriff's Office, I went into major WD. I had to leave, said I had the flu. It was awful. I got some pills and went back the next day, fine. I know you've posted that you've had to do that, too.
How are things with you and your girlfriend? By the way, I've heard bananas are good for restless leg. Also anti-convulsive drugs. I think that's what's helping me now; I am epileptic and am on tegretol now, which is supposed to help with RLS too. Just started it yesterday, so will let you know how it works.
When I was on buprenex, I had no cravings and none of the delayed detox symptoms. I felt normal, except I had many of the same side effects as I did on other opiates. But I did not feel high and I could function fine. Is that an option for you?
Many times I had to go to work in WDs. In fact, my second day on the job when I started at the Sheriff's Office, I went into major WD. I had to leave, said I had the flu. It was awful. I got some pills and went back the next day, fine. I know you've posted that you've had to do that, too.
How are things with you and your girlfriend? By the way, I've heard bananas are good for restless leg. Also anti-convulsive drugs. I think that's what's helping me now; I am epileptic and am on tegretol now, which is supposed to help with RLS too. Just started it yesterday, so will let you know how it works.
When I was on buprenex, I had no cravings and none of the delayed detox symptoms. I felt normal, except I had many of the same side effects as I did on other opiates. But I did not feel high and I could function fine. Is that an option for you?
Your ok,calm down.I lost you email so send it again or call like i told you ***@****. Migragine suck and can drive you insane-stop worrying about what we are going to call your taking the vic and lets focus on making you feel better,Labels really dont change anything,you can debate forever on a relaspe vs pain management so DONT WAST YOUR TIME> we just need to focus on how to stop the pills from creeping back in your life,I gatta go feed em, i will be back later so hold on laura
I don't think anything but cold turkey is an option for me. I don't have a doctor that would prescribe me bup, or any darvon, nor do I want to hunt one down, I don't have the time or the money, you know?? I really wish there was a way for me to get a few so I could be done with this already. I wouldn't mind suffering, but I always have to work so I have to be productive. If you have any ideas at all, please let me know, and thank you for your kind words.
GWH
GWH
you've come so far. taking a couple pills to "get you thru," is only going to set you back...you'll have to start all over again. there is something called post withdrawal syndrome (i think that's what it's called), so what you are experiencing isn't uncommon. if you have insurance thru your work, maybe you could use it to get into some kind of out-patient program or see an addiction specialist. i KNOW you don't want to do either of those things, but aren't they worth a try before you put a pill in your mouth?
it's probably going to be hard for awhile still....try to hang in there - you have been doing SO GREAT!!! you can do this!
it's probably going to be hard for awhile still....try to hang in there - you have been doing SO GREAT!!! you can do this!
The only thing that helped me cold turkey was time. I could never taper; no self-control.
I'm sure you know all the usual: Immodium, Kava Kava, 5HTP. Have you ever done the at-home detox cocktail? For me it was phenobarb, Bentyl, a strong muscle relaxer, and a few others. That worked wonders. I missed where you said how much you used.
I never could really work when I was in the worst of my WD. After a few days I dragged mysef, but at the worst I actually thought I was dying, so couldn't do it. You are young; maybe your body will be tougher than mine. Tell me how you are right now, where you are in your rehab/detox. Also, can you get any clonidine? If I took clonidine, even without the other cocktail stuff, with just a little bit of opiate, I could get through. Other than that, just Father Time, cold comfort that it is. I really feel for you, as it's an awful place to be. I'm afraid I might have to feel it too, as I got a small script for hydro for migraines. It's only 15; do you think I will WD after that small amount?
I'm sure you know all the usual: Immodium, Kava Kava, 5HTP. Have you ever done the at-home detox cocktail? For me it was phenobarb, Bentyl, a strong muscle relaxer, and a few others. That worked wonders. I missed where you said how much you used.
I never could really work when I was in the worst of my WD. After a few days I dragged mysef, but at the worst I actually thought I was dying, so couldn't do it. You are young; maybe your body will be tougher than mine. Tell me how you are right now, where you are in your rehab/detox. Also, can you get any clonidine? If I took clonidine, even without the other cocktail stuff, with just a little bit of opiate, I could get through. Other than that, just Father Time, cold comfort that it is. I really feel for you, as it's an awful place to be. I'm afraid I might have to feel it too, as I got a small script for hydro for migraines. It's only 15; do you think I will WD after that small amount?
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