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386656 tn?1200629827

Anyone tried rapid detox?

I was in a car accident four years ago, and have been addicted to pain pills ever since.  I had my back surgery six months ago, so it's time to see what my results actually are.  That's kind of hard to do when you have a never ending supply of methadone, dilaudid, hydrocodone, xanax, and I don't know if the nuerontin is worth mentioning.  I was taking 90 mg of methadone, 1800mg of nuerontin, and 6 tablets of the methocarbamol, plus 12 - 4 mg tabs of dilaudid a day.  I have cut down to 40mg of methadone, and 600 mg nuerontin, and about 6 of the 4 mg dilaudid per day.  About 11 days ago I started tapering off of everything except the nuerontin.  In the last four days I have only taken a few dilaudid, and I have broken down and taken a 10mg methadone twice.  I feel like **** to say the least.  Rapid detox sounds to good to be true, is it?
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Hi John and welcome to the forum....well we dont recamed doing this....over the years we have had several members try this with little success it is expensive and make a full recovery difficult....methadone in particular  has a long recovery process I was dope sick for around 90 days I often say it is not so much the severity of the withdrawal from this drug...but the long recovery time that makes it the hardest of all the drugs in the opiet family the best way to get off methadone is a slow taper....as for how long it really depends on how long you been on it??? how high a dose ?? and your age all factor in this equation please fill us in a bit so we can better help you....just know it is possible and so so worth it....keep posting for support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GNARLY<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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I got to quit methadone with urod but I had to go to Spain to do the treatment. The best choice in my life by the way, I couldn´t keep up with the damned methadone… I met TAVAD (advanced addiction treatments) thanks to a special report of the bbc that they made to the center
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IT DOESN'T WORK! it will get you past the first stage of withdrawl but they don't mention the second stage that can last months and is as painful. evey person is different but everyone is treated the same. some places will knock you out for one hour, some will do 4 at most. the point is you will wake up with pain, nausea and cravings ranging from mild to extreme. there is no telling and no guarantee.
  after dropping $14,000 i wanted a guarantee
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Sounds like not one poster here has any first hand account of rapid detox. Nor does anyone here (as far as I can tell) have a close friend who has underwent this procedure. I don't think you should be using your opinions to sway this person towards or away from rapid detox. Everything, I mean EVERYTHING I have procured as a statistical representation for relapse and over all success of rapid detox blows traditional cold turkey out of the water. For some reason I have found one overwhelming trend among threads like this, and that is that non drug users tend to lean towards traditional treatment over any treatment that allows a crutch during the hardest points. I believe it is because there is a wide misconception that if the piece of **** addict does not undergo a certain amount of pain, then he will undoubtedly relapse. Most addicts I know are not addicts at all, they are physically dependent on the medication, hell most of them rarely even get high anymore because of the tolerance they have built.
        I am sure there is risk associated with UROD including fatality, but babe, the **** is going to kill you eventually if you don't kick it. If you have tried other forms of detox and where unsuccessful with it, then **** yeah you should try UROD. Research your doctor, the facility, and for God's sake DON'T bargain shop. All the luck in the world to you honey, and don't let anyone get you down.. Especially know it all's who know absolutely nothing besides what they have read. Morons.
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333612 tn?1302883390
You can never be to RICH or to THIN (or so they say)
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hun, that despair you are going thru is the drugs.  it DOES go away!!  trust me... i felt suicidal myself when i was at the end of my "run..."

do the treatment if you can.  you are so lucky to have that option - not everyone does.  and EVERY SINGLE PERSON i know who went into treatment, while they were scared at first, were SO relieved they did it.  they surrendered.  they got the help they needed.

just do it sweety.  life absolutely does not have to feel this way.. you will see...

take good care,
mj
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199177 tn?1490498534
hey then we would be RICH
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333612 tn?1302883390
If you laugh it off...does it stay gone? Perhaps we can market it as a diet technique?!?
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199177 tn?1490498534
LMAO
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333612 tn?1302883390
You rock..big butt and all :-)
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199177 tn?1490498534
thank you I try ,if I dont know i look it up .I just want to help poeple
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333612 tn?1302883390
Avoid rapid detox. It is dangerous and doesn't work well at all. There are some horror stories posted on this forum from people who have experienced it first hand. I've never heard anything good about it.
Get into a regular detox/rehab. Avis knows what she is talking about.....
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366557 tn?1259099624
Avis is one smart cookie. If she makes a statement here, you can be sure she's done her homework first. Her advice is always right on target, including the advice she gives above. I agree 100%

Marc
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279300 tn?1326746678
agree with avis 100%
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199177 tn?1490498534
I am worried about you ,I think maybe inpatient is a really good idea ,
It will give you around the clock care .I think that's is what you need .
I can tell you are at the end of your rope and I don't want to see you reach the end .....PLZ go into the program ,Then come back and tell us about it ....we will be here ...
avis
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386656 tn?1200629827
I'm afraid of switching addictions.  The websites for the rapid detox offer sub as an option, then offer suboxone detox on the next line.  I was addicted to methamphetamine in the late 80's and I quit cold turkey.  That was a piece of cake compared to what I've done in the last eleven days.  I don't want to go through this ever again.  Any comments about suboxone withdrawal would be appreciated.  I've had four hours of sleep in the last 48 hrs.  I called my health insurance and a local hospital that can admit me tomorrow after they verify my insurance will pay.  They only keep you inpatient for the detox (about five days I was told) then you have to make arrangements for follow up care.  If I can make if through the pain and what my mom-in-law calls stinking thinking, God will take me the rest of the way.  Yesterday was the hardest.  I just wanted to give up on life.  Kept thinking about hurting myself to validate getting pain medicine, or worse.  Made me realize I need help but I can't decide what to do.  
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279300 tn?1326746678
wow...how scary is that. peace, if you have tapered to what you have in 11 days..good for you. that is quite an accomplishment. have you thought about sub?
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199177 tn?1490498534
here is an article

The dangers of rapid-detox drug treatment
The Ontario Coroner's Office is investigating a second death connected to a chain of drug treatment clinics that offer a a highly controversial treatment that has divided addiction experts. So-called "rapid detox" treatment uses a cocktail of medications to speed through the withdrawl process while the patient remains under sedation. As part of the procedure, the patient is implanted with a pellet of the opate antagonist Naltrexone to prevent them from having intense cravings or obtaining any "high" from opiates once the treatment is complete.

At first glance this sounds like it could be a great procedure -- why suffer through weeks of withdrawl symptoms when you can get through the worst of it in a few hours while unconcious? However, some experts claim it is biologically impossible to fast-track withdrawal and that the dangers of the procedure are not worth the potential payoff.

The Toronto Star has a very detailed investigation in to the latest death, including a lot of background information on the procedure for those who may be curious about pursuing it. It looks to be somewhat of a last-resort option, but it seems to me it won't do you much good being clean if there's a good chance that you'll die in the process

I am going to put this in my journal as well
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There are some rehab centers that use neurontin to help with the withdrawal symptons. I was prescribed that for my nerve pain due to sciatica. I took that while coming off of hydro and it helped my withdrawals big time. They were almost non existant. I know it's not much, but worth a try. I was amazed on how well it worked. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Best of luck to you!
Brian
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386656 tn?1200629827
Thanks for your response.   I don't know if I can do an inpatient program.  I have two children (ages 15 and 12) and a husband that is waiting for his back surgery.  Although I can't say I've really been there for any of them lately.  
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199177 tn?1490498534
darn it I was just reading an article on RD the other day now i wish I had saved it .It was discussing the dangers of it ...witch seem to be many ......... I would stay away from it  but that is just my opinion.
aVIS
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