Beachtowel

[allaboutmary]

Can you tell me what your advise is to......Alexandra fox...who lives in a country that sells her DOC over the counter. Should she move out of country or never go into a drug store again ?

Or to   Alicenwonderlnd......who has her elderly mother living with her and taking pain pills.  Should she throw her mother out, so as not to be around the pills.

Or to    Loutsatrout  .....who lives in a very rural area and can not get to N/A meetings.

Are you saying to these people that all hope is lost.  That they can never get clean.  I hope not.

[allaboutmary]

I guess we need to agree to disagree. Here is why.  I have sat next to alcoholic's at a bar that have many many years clean.  They go to many functions where alcohol is around. They don't drink anymore period.  I don't personally have any friends that take tons of pain pills, but they do have it in there house because of legit problems with pain.  I will not toss these friends aside because of my problem. They actually give me support.  I think the stone that those rules are written on needs to be tossed in the garbage.  

[beachtowel]

If you an alcoholic you cannot hang in bars...........
If all your friends take tons of narcotics pain pills everyday you have to get new friends...........

If you disagree with these than I know for a fact you have never spent time in an inpatient rehab faclitiy or took any addiction classes so your answers are all based on opinion and that is scary when your giving advice..........


Mary if you disagree with these fundamentals then your ridiculous and have a lot to learn............

[beachtowel]

I disagree with your post because your dead wrong..........

NO ONE WAY TO GET CLEAN IS CORRECT.....>>>>>>WRONG

There are fundamentals that apply 100% of the time.......

If you an alcoholic you cannot hang in bars...........
If all your friends take tons of narcotics pain pills everyday you have to get new friends...........


things like that are written in stone for all addicts ..........

[allaboutmary]

I was just using these people as examples.  Not your posts to them individually.  It is your posts to some of the new comers that concerns me.  They are looking for hope, some in situations that are not ideal for getting clean. I also liked Jennys responce because she gave options. NO ONE WAY TO GET CLEAN IS CORRECT and there is hope for everyone, in every situation, if the will to get clean is there.  You said in one of your posts that if our life long friends have pain pills we should not see them any longer ( they are not addicts) and I find that absolutley rediculous. I swore to myself I would not get involved in the drama that goes on, but I am concerned about the new comers to this forum, a few negative remarks and they won't come back.  That makes me sad as this forum was a life saver for me.

[beachtowel]

This was my response to Lotsatrout's post to there relapse post........

Where did allaboutmary get her interpertation of my response from what I posted above.....I wish someone would explain it to me........

[beachtowel]

I just went back and cut my response to his post so I cut it andnow I'll past it.......please tell me how I handled this so wrong ok???

beachtowel
  



11/18/07
Lotsatrout  "Sorry if you let any of us down"  none of us are effected by you using or not using......so why would you say your sorry to us.........

Your the one that matters and nobody else......until you fix yourself nobody can do anything for you to help or support nothing..........

Its all on you........by the way did you like my football game post yesterday you would indulged for sure........