Catalytic anti-bodies?

[Kate]

Has anyone heard of a antibody being developed that consumes cocaine as soon as it enters the body. It is supposed to work continuously over a 30 day period. Meaning no matter how much crack you smoke you won't get high. Sounds too good to be true, huh?

[tom to C]

that's a good point. I agree wholeheartedly. Yet even the sharp tones are interesting. What could be more subjective and morally ambiguous than pain, pleasure and obsession? I feel all three when it comes to narcotics. I need them. I love them. I cannot imagine life without them. I don't recommend anyone follow me. I doubt if this drama of mine will end on a happy note. In some ways, I feel damned and alone on a very cold and dark road.

[Dreaming87]

My point is:
There are 3 types of users; those who need drugs because of physical problems; those who use drugs because they like the high; and a combination of those who have honest pain but also like the effect of pain killer. I just think that the mood on this forum is getting very nasty, everyone has problems and different solutions, the idea here is to listen, respond and try to help.  

[tom to C]

so what's you're point?

[tom to trina]

thank you for your thoughtful contribution. I admit the prospect of becoming dependant on the methadone clinic is unsettling. However, I'm already dependant on opiate producers in general, not having a crop of poppies growing in my backyard. However, the signs seem to indicate a growing trend in the use of opiate agonists to treat addiction. Perhaps the clinics won't be the only place to go. Or there will be alternatives to methadone. I already find it impossible to detox fully from anything. The thought of a hard detox doesn't scare me. They're all hard. I am encouraged by the apparent low-toxicity of methadone compared to other opiates. I am 47 and surely must be wearing out one or more internal organs with all I've been using. I can always go back to what I'm doing now, tweaking my doctor this way and that for every script, week after week.
I am sorry to hear you have a terminal illness. My 10-year old nephew died a few months ago from cancer, and morphine proved to be his salvation. Without it, his last years would have been horrible. I wish you all the best, Trina. Please post again.

[Dreaming87]

Hi Guys,
I have been reading the posts and did everyone have a really shitty week or what?
I can relate to you VGurl;and Doc Dan because both of you have valid things to say.   I tell myself that I deserve a few because I work my ass off and have to come home and clean, cook, etc, don't sit down till midnight and average 5-6 hours sleep per night.  But I also know that even one a day will make you want two the next and the cycle continues on until you're crazy. If you NEED a drug everyday and are not in REAL pain that OTC drugs can't help, then you are addicted.  A user is anyone that takes narcotics, regardless of the method they use.  Remarks??

[Vicodin Gurrl to Dan]

I have been reading the posts at this website religiously for the past few months, yet until this time have not felt comfortable posting anything myself. I have found this site to be a source of comfort, information, advice, and interesting points of view.  REcently, I have noticed that I find myself getting tense and anxious just READING the posts and decided I simply had to say something.  I, too, am a chronic pain patient, and through the course of my illness have become addicted/dependant upon opiates.  I do not take them for "fun", but I do notice a feeling of euphoria that occurs nonetheless.  In talking with my pain clinic doctor, I inquired about the MMT treatment that Dan is such a proponent of.  My doctor gave me numerous medical journal articles to read about this therapy and also directed me to many websites that I could read and obtain an objective point of view on my own.  From what I have read, methadone is MUCH more difficult to detox from than ANY other opiate.  Not to mention that once a person becomes dependant on this drug, he or she is then basically at the mercy of the clinic doling out the daily dose.  I have also spoken (online) to ex -heroin junkies who have tried MMT and subsequently detoxed from it.  Most have told me that their prior heroin detoxes were a walk in the park compared to methadone detox.  It seems to me that MMT is simply trading one addiction for another.  Why isnt Dan giving any of this information to those on this site as well?  Dan, it is my opinion that you are just as much an addict as any of the others whom you have all but forced out of this site!  Tom, it seems that this therapy WOULD be quite effectie for you, as your goal is to REMAIN on an opiate regiment yet sustain a happier, healthier life.  I applaud you, as you seem to be an honest individual looking for a good solution to a difficult situation.  Dan, however, DOES appear to believe he is the messiah of non-drug addiction.  It seems that HE is so caught up in his OWN addiction and telling everyone else what THEY should do that he cannot even see what a raging hypocrite he is!  Since I have a terminal illness and really have no reason to get off of opiates (until I am taken permanently off of them by the big guy in heaven), MMT is not something I care to try.  I agree that it is great that everyone here is free to share their individual points of view, but I will say that I hope you all can try to remember that NO ONE is perfect, we are all children of God, and we are all doing the very best we can....let's please cut each other some slack, okay?  Take care everyone.
Trina