Does Ibogaine work?

[jj5577]

I have read many articles for the supposed "wonder cure" for addiction, ibogaine.  I was wondering if there could possibly be any truth to it.... although I highly doubt it because it sounds too good to be true.

I was hoping that if there is even a grain of truth to it, it might help my fiance so he could detox off of 90 mg of methadone, which he has been taking for about 5 years.

Does anyone know anything about ibogaine for real?

[opiate_addict]

gnarly_1 those words can only come from the mouth of someone who has never experienced opiate withdrawals first hand. To say compare opiate withdrawals with the flu is just ignorant. Yes some of the symptoms may be similar if you have a mild habit but even for the worst flu is not nearly as painful as an opiate withdrawal and you can get relief from otc meds, you can even get rest and sleep. Opiate withdrawal is the most agonizing pain I've ever experienced, for the first few days to a week (depending on the opiate) you'll be in so much pain that you'll want to die, you'll get no rest, no sleep (you can take enough tranquilizers to knock down a horse and it'll make you sleepy but you'll be in so much pain and disconfort that sleeping is not possible), and no confort for even a minute, it's unbearable pain 24/7 and the only thing that will make it better is a fix, after the worst is over you have about a month or longer with symptoms that can be compared to a flu, not to mention the anxiety and cravings! I've been through it hundreds of times so knowing that you will suffer is not so much a deterrent to relapse, I know it doesn't make sense but you just have to live it to understand it. This time I've been on opiates so long without stopping that I just can't get through the damned withdrawal, and believe me I've really tried and really want to, so if something like Ibogaine can help me get it through it then it is well worth the risk. Besides the risk is overrated, more people have died from methadone overdoses that from Ibogaine and there is not one case where Ibogaine has been confirmed to be the cause of death.

In your profession you should know that opiate addiction has the least successful recovery rate than any other drug of abuse, why you think is that? BECAUSE OF THE INTENSE PHYSICAL WITHDRAWALS!! So if you could eliminate that or at least alleviate it the numbers would be much better, don't you think?

Yes, staying clean is very hard but when it comes to opiates getting clean can be just as hard and it's terrifying and it what keeps most of us addicts from even trying so if Ibogaine can elliminate or alleviate the withdrawal syndrome then I think it is a miracle drug (and read carefully, I didn't say cure).

To trully understand addiction you need to live through it. It doesn't matter how much you study it or work with addicts you'll never understand the true monster that addiction is. That's why I don't pay much mind to most people in your profession, only those who've lived through it really understand it. There may be a handful of you guys who are trully caring and compassionate enough to put themselves in our shoes and those can be trully helpful but the mayority of you guys are just plain ignorant.

I'm sure profit is more of an incentive than compassion for doing what you do (and you probably wish you could be doing something 'better'), and even though you'd never admit it I'm also sure that deep down you look down at us addicts.

[gnarly_1]

HI.....Im sorry if I sound harsh to you that wasn't my point......I work with addict 6 nights a week
once in a wile we do get those that are looking for a ''get out of jail free card'' and are desperate not to go threw withdrawals the withdrawals typically last around 4 or 5 days and are typically worst in our minds then thew turn out to be to spend 20 grand up at wismmen or 10 grand at an iboganine just to avoid the flu for 4 or 5 days seems foolish to me that money could be better spent getting one on one consoling to avoid relapse... everybody thats new to this thinks the withdrawal is  the hard part....I assure you that the ez part of doing this its staying clean thats the hard part for the addict , addiction just dosent go away because where off of the pills the pills are merely a symptom of a much bigger problem for an addict to remain clean and sober he/she must change the very way we think until that happens relapse is emanate...those that choose a cleaner softer way rarely understand this and often think there cured just because there detoxed nothing could be farther from the truth.. by going threw the withdrawals it may make you think twice b/4 you use again
it still no grantee we have plenty that go threw it and still relapse but I stand by my words that I think it is a critical part of the proses it give people the incentive to seek out aftercare again a critical part of the process I just dont see it if you go with the softer approach ....the im clean and everything is pink and rosy isent the way this works....it takes work to stay clean ..im truly sorry if I offended you  but sometimes the truth is harsh but im out here fighting for you life...OD.ing is a real possibility so is kidney failure and liver damage
If I truly wasn't compassionate I wouldn't be spending 6 nights a week trying to help people get clean you truly need to understand addiction to know there are no magic cures
I wish you all the best on however you decide to get clean just know addiction just dosent just go away this is something your going to have to treat the rest of your life good luck to you and God bless.....Gnarly            

[susan433]

Gnarly, what the **** are you talking about? Addicts are of the most suffering group around. You need to suffer and have it burned into your mind? What the **** is that ****?

Have some compassion dude.

[gnarly_1]

HI BEreally careful with ibogaine it can be lethal if given in the incorrect dose it is not been approved by the FDA and because it is considered a hallucinogenic it probably wont be
I have heard about the clinics in mexico but even those are controversial....I also beleve
going threw withdrawals is a critical part of getting well you need to know your going to suffer when you play with fire you get burned....withdrawals will burn themslfs into your mind
and you will appreciate your sobriety more have to have fought for it...if its as simple as going to a clinic to get clean theirs not much incentive to not go back to using get hooked again theirs always the friendly clinic to dry you out again....and its not getting clean thats hard ....its staying clean that takes the work and the ibogaine wont do that for you.........Gnarly      

[susan433]

another good resource to find ibogaine treatment information is www.*********.com

[karenkitty]

I took ibogaine 6 years ago for a methadone/heroin addiction. It worked just like they said it would, within 30-45min the withdrawls were gone. For someone who is READY to quit, it's nothing short of a miracle.But, if you're not ready, don't bother because if you go out and get yourself re-addicted, it's just a waste of money. That being said, the provider you choose makes a big difference! I've know others who, after  I came back and told them about my experience, wanted to get treatment. However, they couldn't afford to go out of the country and opted for an underground home provider here in the states. Initially she thought it had worked, but I don't think the dose was enough because within a short time frame she was sick again. The best places let you stay for at least a week and give you booster doses if you need more(this is especially important for ppl of longer acting opiates like methadone). Also, there's at least one place that I know of that offers a money back guarantee if you're not satisfied with the treatment, or if you relapse within 60 days you can go back for free. They're called http://www.ibogainenow.com The guy that runs the place, Lex Kogan, studied under the person who's done the most ibogaine detoxes in the west. I'd check them out, or ibeginagain.org or the ibogatherapyhouse.com (this is the place I went to). Good luck with your treatment!