Does Subutex Block Opiates

[JoRoChrist]

Yes I've been on suboxone for about 6 months but my doctor took me off and put me on subutex.
I would like to know if it blocks opiates, I have to go and get injections of probably fetynal for getting
my wisdom teeth taken, and then prescribed fetynal or oxy-contin after the operation.

Thank You

[JoRoChrist]

Listen I've been clean for quite a while for everyone who has the idea that I am trying to get information so i can get high please do not even bother responding. I have been getting high since I've been 11 and started injecting opiates before 12 so I probably spilled more drugs then most of the people posting here used. I have an extremely high tolerance and an excessively fast metabolism. Also for your question "If I am an addict why would your doctor take you off of suboxone and put you on subutex" and the answer to that question is because I have been having a reaction to Narcon aka Naloxone it is estimated that about 2% out of everyone taking suboxone has a bad reaction to Narcon. It was not my choice to be put on Subutex, Most of the drug stores where i live do not carry it and my doctor is a jackass and told me that i have to wait until a pharmacy gets it in so i had to hunt down a pharmacy that had it. Living in the coal region that is not easy especially when you drive hours and hours out of town just for the appointment and then they tell you the wait is going to be over 2 hours. Also I am currently taking 5 8mg subutex i was taking 8 because i was using 300mgs of Methadone, or 30 bags a day. So if your asking why I am taking fetynal and oxy its because i have a high tolerance and a fast metabolism and also Vicadin and Percocet have Acetaminophen in it which when you have hepatitis C is NOT good fetynal and oxy do not for the most part oxy doesn't unless your taking roxicet or ms contin or another generic form of oxy for most people who are usually on welfare and don't have their own health insurance plan . Which is not me I'm covered by GHP ( Geisinger Health Plan ) I really don't care what your opinion is on my current situation or life. Also my dentist is not a pharmacist he doesn't know if it will block, and my Suboxone//Subutex doctor doesn't know either because he has the right to prescribe suboxone//subutex//methadone but didn't take the test you can get a license but the test is only once every 2 or 4 years I'm not exactly sure, thats why I'm on here asking.

Thank You

[JoRoChrist]

And ALSO I don't want answers that you pealed directly from the internet such as borntoriff  "Buprenorphine is the active ingredient in Suboxone, Subutex, and Buprenex. Suboxone has a added ingredient called Naloxone. This was added to prevent abuse, and the Naloxone in Suboxone will allegedly cause immediate withdrawal if the Suboxone is injected or possibly snorted. Naloxone has also been known to induce withdrawal (wd) symptoms when some people are initially starting treatment, therefore some Drs will initially induct patients with Subutex which is just Buprenorphine without any additives."
I highly appreciate your help but i am not looking for the definition of it i know the ingredients however i don't know if Subutex blocks it like Suboxone it would make sense that it didn't since how much Naloxone is appreciated for blocking opioid intake but i don't necessarily know if thats the case.
Also i didn't ask in the post for you to give me your advice on topics that I'm not concerned of.  
ALL I WANT IS THE ANSWER does Subutex BLOCK opiates I know suboxone does
I KNOW the ingredients I KNOW that everyone thinks fetynal is a strong drug but if i took 1micro milligram of fetynal i would do nothing so you don't particularly know the doses of what i am taking to begin with so just ANSWER the question if your going to answer.

[FLaddict]

Yes Subutex blocks opiates as well. Its because of the partial agonist quality. It attaches to the receptors so tight that it prevents others opiates from getting through. It would be wise to taper off the Sub a week or two before the surgery so that you get adequate pain relief.

[FLaddict]

In fact I know someone who used to post here that had a emergency surgery, she was taking 32mgs of Sub and was given IV meds at the hospital and nothing could get through, she was miserable.

[road2recovery]

WOW-- i know nothing about sub...But i will say this...I had a terrible abcess , and under a already crowned root canal..So i did what was called a retreat...My tolerence was already high from too much lortab...i did not tell my doc about that!  he persribed me tylox, oxycodone, and it did not touch the pain...my face was so swollen, and infection had set in, then i had a dry socket..OMG the pain....He then perscribed me diluded s/p?  that was the first time i had ever taken that, the pain finally went away..i know it was my fault because of tolerence..BUT to me tooth pain is the worst.....
SO i hope you get answers here , about the sub,i know nothing about..But wanted to tell you i know how bad tooth pain can be..hope all goes well
r2r

[wait2long]

yes, it does block. the naloxone in suboxone is only there to prevent misuse by IV addicts/abusers, that is naloxones only purpose...buprenorphine is the blocker, so to speak ..
you would have to be off either one before your procedure...good luck!!