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Effects of Percocet and Oxycontin
My husband is taking both of the pills listed above and is buying them from dealers. It has been going on over 3 years now and has really gotten expensive. He has HepC and I have told him how damaging this is to take these pills with his liver disease. He says that he can't work the way he does without them because they give him energy. I am starting to see the sudden outburst of anger. Especially if I say anything about the pills. Can anybody tell me what the long term effects are going to be for him and how I can get him to see that the pills are not really giving him energy and how bad they are for him?
My husband is on his 3rd try of going CT; I'm not sure if I can stand by him any longer....:(
Hi there,
I'm new to this.. I'm a 22 year old female. I have a amazing boyfriend who is 28 years old. He got introduced to percocet about a year ago and has been hooked ever since, but latly i suspect that he is doing something a liitle more now. He goes in the bathrron for a long time and throws up several times. He gets very defensive when I ask him about it. He is a recovered Heroin addict, I'm afraid that person is back. To add his moods change in a blink of an eye, very bad mood swings and he has no sex drive at all. I've been researching Suboxone and I'm thinking thats the way to go.I just feel so helpless. Its out of my power, I cant make him stop, he has to want to stop for himself. If anyone can please advise me with any info. I've never loved someone whos been an addict and dont know what to do.
Thank you very much,
I'm new to this.. I'm a 22 year old female. I have a amazing boyfriend who is 28 years old. He got introduced to percocet about a year ago and has been hooked ever since, but latly i suspect that he is doing something a liitle more now. He goes in the bathrron for a long time and throws up several times. He gets very defensive when I ask him about it. He is a recovered Heroin addict, I'm afraid that person is back. To add his moods change in a blink of an eye, very bad mood swings and he has no sex drive at all. I've been researching Suboxone and I'm thinking thats the way to go.I just feel so helpless. Its out of my power, I cant make him stop, he has to want to stop for himself. If anyone can please advise me with any info. I've never loved someone whos been an addict and dont know what to do.
Thank you very much,
"You people who take Oxycontin and the like illegally and for recreation make my stomach turn. I HAVE to take it because I have terrible chronic pain. I worry everyday of my life about the side effects but I would be a cripple without it. I had to search far and wide to find a DR willing to give it to me for REAL pain because most DR's are too scared to provide it for people who need it because of idiots who take it illegally. Thanks to those of you who do this for making my life a living hell before I was able to find a DR brave enough to face the DEA since I have documented REAL pain. You people need to realize your actions cause problems for people with REAL medical problems. If you want to use drugs for recreation, go smoke some pot or do some cocaine. But for the sake of the people in this world with REAL chronic pain, STOP abusing prescription drugs!!!"
wow. i am in awe of your ignorance. first of all, this is a different age, a different era - painkillers are now one of the most used and most easily attainable drugs that there are. i respect the fact the they give you what you need to live the most normal and effiecent life you can with the medical condition you have developed, it is for people like you, why painkillers have become an almost "miracle" drug. but with every drug there is no doubt a down side, and the down side to this is 1- they are highly addictive, and 2- they give a feeling of almost euphoria to those who do take them, which in turn makes one who recreationally uses the drug take them more which, again, in turn, makes the user over time addicted. the problem is most dont realize until its too late. BUT THEY DO REALIZE. AND HELLLO, it is not a drug one can just make by buying a bunch of stuff and puttin it together..it is made by a pharmacy, obviously. so if you havent noticed any of these people suffering from the hell that they no doubt did get themselves into, dont u wonder maybe how SO MANY people nationwide may have become addicted to a drug that is according to you so hard to get because of "IDIOTS"?
QUOTE "I had to search far and wide to find a DR willing to give it to me for REAL pain because most DR's are too scared to provide it for people who need it because of idiots who take it illegally
interesting how little sense that actually makes,. in reality, if u werent aware, or maybe to dissapointed/nervous of the problems you too will ultimately develop from taking the drug over prolonged periods of time, and your tolerance as well my dear dummy will go up - obviously the problem is not that doctors are too afraid to prescribe the medicine -like you say- but that there is too many doctors giving it out for basically nothing! altho im sure some people have stolen from pharmacies, or maybe know a crooked doctor, that is def not majority. so before you **** on other people for having the balls and/or need to get help for a SICKNESS - just like you have - WHY DONT YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYIN AND HOW MUCH SENSE IT ACTUALLY MAKES! the problem is that right now i could call about 20 different people and they could all sell me painkillers if i wanted them! BUT YOU MUST BE RIGHT.. DOCTORS ALL OVER THE PLACE ARE TOO SCARED TO PRESCRIBE THEM! HAHAHA what a joke! what a stupid, unthoughtful, cynical remark you made. im glad people like me and millions others make you sick because of our problem.. you know what else is going to make you sick? when you dont have any pills one day after youve been taking them for however long and your body shows you what its like to be sick in a different way then you think you understand. and when you go to your "ballsy" doctor and describe these different symptoms you've been having and that same "ballsy" doctor of yours realizes that you too, are addicted to painkillers. maybe then will you understand what its like to become addicted to something you didnt know would take over your life. ignorance shall become knowlegde for you one day my dummy friend, and not because u wanted it. i dont mean to wish anything bad upon you, but i do assume that you are older than i, because i am only 23, and i wonder if you have children. if you raised them to be as ignorant as you, or you are that not understanding, the problems they could have scares me. i did not grow up with cocaine being the biggest drug, or acid, or meth or non of that ****. it was pot and painkillers. and nearly everyone i know got themselves into a hole they never even fin knew they were digging. so before you go calling people that are sick "idiots" and whatnot, maybe your should take a step back and wonder how in the hell they ever got a hold of the drug in the first place - IT WASNT BECAUSE DOCTORS WERE TOO AFRAID TO PRESCRIBE IT THATS FOR DAMN SURE. being as young as i am and knowing first hand what happens when u mess with painkillers -i had to try to warn my own father of takin it for his disease.. and he needed it just like you. you know what happened? no matter how much i warned and worried, he became addicted too. amazing how a 21 yr old can beg their parents not to take a medicine givin by their doctor because they know better than the adult does. dont stick your foot in your mouth before you know what your talking about. maybe you should look at some of this as an idea of what can happen to people and a hearftfelt warning instead of a message board of a bunch of druggies. btw ,, do you know the company that made perc 30s and etc is under investigation? because so many pills have been found on the streets and so many people - prescribed at one time or not - have end up in rehad for addictions to painkillers when the company originally stated that is was a VERY LOW ADDICTION RATE WITH THEIR NEW MIRACLE DRUG?
good luck to you and your chronic illness.. i hope you become well. i also hope you are not so ignorant about everything as you were about this.
truely yours,
smarterthanyou
wow. i am in awe of your ignorance. first of all, this is a different age, a different era - painkillers are now one of the most used and most easily attainable drugs that there are. i respect the fact the they give you what you need to live the most normal and effiecent life you can with the medical condition you have developed, it is for people like you, why painkillers have become an almost "miracle" drug. but with every drug there is no doubt a down side, and the down side to this is 1- they are highly addictive, and 2- they give a feeling of almost euphoria to those who do take them, which in turn makes one who recreationally uses the drug take them more which, again, in turn, makes the user over time addicted. the problem is most dont realize until its too late. BUT THEY DO REALIZE. AND HELLLO, it is not a drug one can just make by buying a bunch of stuff and puttin it together..it is made by a pharmacy, obviously. so if you havent noticed any of these people suffering from the hell that they no doubt did get themselves into, dont u wonder maybe how SO MANY people nationwide may have become addicted to a drug that is according to you so hard to get because of "IDIOTS"?
QUOTE "I had to search far and wide to find a DR willing to give it to me for REAL pain because most DR's are too scared to provide it for people who need it because of idiots who take it illegally
interesting how little sense that actually makes,. in reality, if u werent aware, or maybe to dissapointed/nervous of the problems you too will ultimately develop from taking the drug over prolonged periods of time, and your tolerance as well my dear dummy will go up - obviously the problem is not that doctors are too afraid to prescribe the medicine -like you say- but that there is too many doctors giving it out for basically nothing! altho im sure some people have stolen from pharmacies, or maybe know a crooked doctor, that is def not majority. so before you **** on other people for having the balls and/or need to get help for a SICKNESS - just like you have - WHY DONT YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYIN AND HOW MUCH SENSE IT ACTUALLY MAKES! the problem is that right now i could call about 20 different people and they could all sell me painkillers if i wanted them! BUT YOU MUST BE RIGHT.. DOCTORS ALL OVER THE PLACE ARE TOO SCARED TO PRESCRIBE THEM! HAHAHA what a joke! what a stupid, unthoughtful, cynical remark you made. im glad people like me and millions others make you sick because of our problem.. you know what else is going to make you sick? when you dont have any pills one day after youve been taking them for however long and your body shows you what its like to be sick in a different way then you think you understand. and when you go to your "ballsy" doctor and describe these different symptoms you've been having and that same "ballsy" doctor of yours realizes that you too, are addicted to painkillers. maybe then will you understand what its like to become addicted to something you didnt know would take over your life. ignorance shall become knowlegde for you one day my dummy friend, and not because u wanted it. i dont mean to wish anything bad upon you, but i do assume that you are older than i, because i am only 23, and i wonder if you have children. if you raised them to be as ignorant as you, or you are that not understanding, the problems they could have scares me. i did not grow up with cocaine being the biggest drug, or acid, or meth or non of that ****. it was pot and painkillers. and nearly everyone i know got themselves into a hole they never even fin knew they were digging. so before you go calling people that are sick "idiots" and whatnot, maybe your should take a step back and wonder how in the hell they ever got a hold of the drug in the first place - IT WASNT BECAUSE DOCTORS WERE TOO AFRAID TO PRESCRIBE IT THATS FOR DAMN SURE. being as young as i am and knowing first hand what happens when u mess with painkillers -i had to try to warn my own father of takin it for his disease.. and he needed it just like you. you know what happened? no matter how much i warned and worried, he became addicted too. amazing how a 21 yr old can beg their parents not to take a medicine givin by their doctor because they know better than the adult does. dont stick your foot in your mouth before you know what your talking about. maybe you should look at some of this as an idea of what can happen to people and a hearftfelt warning instead of a message board of a bunch of druggies. btw ,, do you know the company that made perc 30s and etc is under investigation? because so many pills have been found on the streets and so many people - prescribed at one time or not - have end up in rehad for addictions to painkillers when the company originally stated that is was a VERY LOW ADDICTION RATE WITH THEIR NEW MIRACLE DRUG?
good luck to you and your chronic illness.. i hope you become well. i also hope you are not so ignorant about everything as you were about this.
truely yours,
smarterthanyou
well i will try my best, altho i have a problem as well, but i dont know what a narco is?? and oc 5mg is basically nothing on the scales of strength. pretty much one of the lowest doses u could take if just taking one. but chances are if he has been taking them that long he is taking a lot more than 5mgs. as your obviously know your tolerance rises the longer you take them. when u compare vics, percs and oxys the strength is all different, and depending your pill of choice or the pill u have history with they all are different. oxys are the worst to become addicted to bc it is the closest to a form of sterilized heroin. whereas percocet and vicodins are pain killers/tylenol (although 15 mg percs and up are closer to being oxys then their own family of percs because just like oxys they contain no aspirin and is basically the same thing as oxycotin, just a lower dosage. 5 & 10 mg oxys are (at least where im from) pretty rare, anyone who takes them takes 40 mg to 80 mg and u can get up to a dollar a mg. so yes someone who can take more than 1 or 2 oc 80's a day (which can def happen once ur tolerance gets up there) has a huge chance of turning to heroin whereas its dirt cheap and the ocs are basically ripping a hole in their wallet.
the thing that makes me nervous about what your say about ur brother is that he has no desire to stop. once u lose that desire to change ur life for the best and u give in entirely to the drug is when it can do huge damage not just to the abuser but to everyone around that person. if u were someone who took them even on occasion, recreationally or not, you would know the feeling it gives you and how it can be so addictive. a lot of times most people dont realize they are addicted until it is too late, and then dont know who to turn to, or how to stop. you are doing the right thing by reading up and becoming aware of the situation, but just know someone who has been taking painkillers for 6 yrs is 99.9% doing more than 15-20 mgs a day. sometimes the best way to help someone who wont help themselves is to make them do it on their own. the reason for stealing is bc once ur fully addicted u truely cant function properly without the drug, whether it be talking, working, or even showering, i mean ur energy level is literally non-existant. i feel as if maybe bc u know what u do and obviously care about him maybe an intervention will work. but biggest thing to me i guess would be to not feel as if i was being looked down on. maybe if my family understood and just cared and didnt look down on me for the problem that i had developed id be more apt to get help, for them and myself. attacking/cornering an addict can be very bad if they take it the wrong way. continue to try to be understanding and willing to learn and listen. and know i am 23.. and ive been taking them for about 2 and a half yrs.. i started with 5mg percs and 10 mgs- splitting them in half, then no one had the small mg pills anymore.. it jumped to 15- and 30 mgs. i could take up to 3 30s a day now, and my family doesnt even know i take them. its sick and scary. but im on my own and i know i need help. goodluckxo. i hope god is with your family
the thing that makes me nervous about what your say about ur brother is that he has no desire to stop. once u lose that desire to change ur life for the best and u give in entirely to the drug is when it can do huge damage not just to the abuser but to everyone around that person. if u were someone who took them even on occasion, recreationally or not, you would know the feeling it gives you and how it can be so addictive. a lot of times most people dont realize they are addicted until it is too late, and then dont know who to turn to, or how to stop. you are doing the right thing by reading up and becoming aware of the situation, but just know someone who has been taking painkillers for 6 yrs is 99.9% doing more than 15-20 mgs a day. sometimes the best way to help someone who wont help themselves is to make them do it on their own. the reason for stealing is bc once ur fully addicted u truely cant function properly without the drug, whether it be talking, working, or even showering, i mean ur energy level is literally non-existant. i feel as if maybe bc u know what u do and obviously care about him maybe an intervention will work. but biggest thing to me i guess would be to not feel as if i was being looked down on. maybe if my family understood and just cared and didnt look down on me for the problem that i had developed id be more apt to get help, for them and myself. attacking/cornering an addict can be very bad if they take it the wrong way. continue to try to be understanding and willing to learn and listen. and know i am 23.. and ive been taking them for about 2 and a half yrs.. i started with 5mg percs and 10 mgs- splitting them in half, then no one had the small mg pills anymore.. it jumped to 15- and 30 mgs. i could take up to 3 30s a day now, and my family doesnt even know i take them. its sick and scary. but im on my own and i know i need help. goodluckxo. i hope god is with your family
I think I posted this in the wrong discussion initially, I'd really like some insight...so any responses help. I should also say that this is a prelude to an intervention we are considering having and I want to be as well educated as I possibly can be to understand this disease....see below.
I have a drug question that I need answered. I have been reading and reading all of your posts in awww, it's amazing how the addiction to pills possesses your very person and very scary too. I guess I am looking for some answers for my brother who is an admitted opiate addict, however, he will say he just wishes he had a constant flow of it fo rthe rest of his life and he'd be happy....sick. He's 25 doesn't work, doesn't do much of anything but chase the pills. He developed chronic staph infections about 6 years ago and they prescribed him vicodin for the pain. He has turned into a compulsive liar, a theif (he stole pills from our grandmother who has cancer!) he can't be trusted. He e-room jumps, buys from dealers, and he also has a reg. doc for the staph infections who prescribes him norco every 30 days, which he tears through in a few days. Recently he was given 5mg/500 oxycontin for "breakthrough pain". His dr doesn't know he takes pills regularly, but I'm afraid he's gonna o.d. one day from all the pills. He says I don't understand because I don't do them...can someone give me some incite? Once I realized he had a problem I started reading up on this addiction, so I know more than he gives me credit.
Oxycontin is so dangerous, why would a doc give someone such a strong med for a problem that's only painful when he has a sore? How does the oxy 5/500 compare to the norco or percoset for that mattter? ie; does 2 or 3 norco = the same potency as 1 oxy 5mg? He takes between 3 or 4 norco at a time and I noticed when I was with him the other day he popped 2-3 oxy at a time. I made a comment "aren't those stronger, so you don't need as much?" He said each kind of pill feels different...can someone give me a quick break down?
I have a drug question that I need answered. I have been reading and reading all of your posts in awww, it's amazing how the addiction to pills possesses your very person and very scary too. I guess I am looking for some answers for my brother who is an admitted opiate addict, however, he will say he just wishes he had a constant flow of it fo rthe rest of his life and he'd be happy....sick. He's 25 doesn't work, doesn't do much of anything but chase the pills. He developed chronic staph infections about 6 years ago and they prescribed him vicodin for the pain. He has turned into a compulsive liar, a theif (he stole pills from our grandmother who has cancer!) he can't be trusted. He e-room jumps, buys from dealers, and he also has a reg. doc for the staph infections who prescribes him norco every 30 days, which he tears through in a few days. Recently he was given 5mg/500 oxycontin for "breakthrough pain". His dr doesn't know he takes pills regularly, but I'm afraid he's gonna o.d. one day from all the pills. He says I don't understand because I don't do them...can someone give me some incite? Once I realized he had a problem I started reading up on this addiction, so I know more than he gives me credit.
Oxycontin is so dangerous, why would a doc give someone such a strong med for a problem that's only painful when he has a sore? How does the oxy 5/500 compare to the norco or percoset for that mattter? ie; does 2 or 3 norco = the same potency as 1 oxy 5mg? He takes between 3 or 4 norco at a time and I noticed when I was with him the other day he popped 2-3 oxy at a time. I made a comment "aren't those stronger, so you don't need as much?" He said each kind of pill feels different...can someone give me a quick break down?
This is a great forum , I just found it today an have read alot of posts an questions. I think this will be very helpful an informative for me, thanks
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