Help? ... Hydro relapse re-detox

[NorthboundTrain]

Hi, I'm really nervous. I went through the full hydrocodone detox w/d process about 2 months ago, after getting up to about 50 mg/day. The first 4 days may have been the most miserable of my life. I slipped about 2 weeks ago. Not nearly to the previous levels, though - have been taking between 5 and 15 per day, no more than 10mg for the past 4 days. And never more than 5 mg at a time. I'm leaving on vacation tomorrow. And I'm not bringing any (don't want to, but couldn't get more, regardless). Is there a chance that the next 48 hours will be the hell that I experienced a couple months ago? Relative discomfort - lack of focus - has already kind of set in, making packing for an 8-day trip a bit more taxing than it should be. But the thought of 7 hours on an airplane tomorrow is absolutely terrifying me (not to mention the first couple days on the family vacation). I realize that it's my own fault and am ready to face the demons, but I just want some sort of way to mentally prepare for what's realistic to expect. Should I expect to experience the same hell I went through before, even though my tolerance is considerably lower this time?

I actually have 5 mg left and desperately want to save it for about the time we takeoff tomorrow. By then, though, it will have been 40+ hours since the last 5 mg dose and I wonder that if that just might make things worse for a longer time. The idea of taking the last 5 today, under the guise of productiveness and the rationale that it's a reasonable taper (10 mg yesterday, 5 today ...) is bouncing around my head, too. But again, I'm wondering if the short term gain make the next couple days disproportionately more difficult. I'm also half-thinking that I should just not take it at all. I know the latter's probably going to be the recommendation, but I was compelled to find out.

I used these forums like a Bible, btw, a couple months ago. Reading all the posts was so incredibly therapeutic and informative. I've recommended this site to others, as well. You people do good things and provide an invaluable service.  I hope to contribute and help return the favor in the future.

Thank you, and I'd appreciate any advice or feedback, if anyone should be out there on this Labor Day weekend.

NBTrain

[marcatj]

:-) !

[NorthboundTrain]

I think - hope(!) - you all are right about the severity. I'm 30 hours since the last mini-dose and while I don't feel good, I definitely don't have the hellish feeling that overcame me by this point, last time. (The only bad thing so far is that I can't walk across the room without being distracted at least 3 times - it's taking forever to do anything, no matter how simple, but I can still function ... And no chills/sweats, either, which is kind of pleasantly surprising me. Knock on wood they don't come tomorrow ... if RLS doesn't kick in (pun intended) during the night, I think I'll be feeling better faster.)

And hydro: I'm not much of a drinker either, so the shot(s) didn't occur to me - thanks for mentioning. I don't have any good vodka in the cabinet, so I'm substituting some fine tequila. It seems to be working :)

I didn't touch the 5 mg today, btw, and I'm already thinking about not even taking it on the plane, tomorrow.

Thanks again for your brief words of advice, encouragement, and the mild (and well-received) warning to stay away for good after this.

-- (Headlight on a) Northbound Train  

[marcatj]

NBT - no question is too small or mundane to ask.. always ask.. :)

Hydro - I did the same thing.  it just took the edge off, the first 2 nights...

[NorthboundTrain]

Thank you, guys. Appreciate the feedback - feel a little sheepish about seeking help for such a relatively low-level problem, but as avis alluded, the mind has a mind of it's own. So to speak.  I appreciate your feedback, though, and will heed the advice.

I at least feel more confident, if still a bit scatterbrained ...  

NBT

[hydrofusion]

I agree with avis, you should be ok.  I'm not sure if this is OK to say or not, but for me what I found to be really helpful was to take a few shots of vodka the first couple of nights off the pills.  I honestly hate alcohol and never drink, but I found it put my mind if a different place where I wasn't focused on the w/d symptons.

Good luck bud.

[marcatj]

i agree.  if you're only at 10mg the last 4 days, you will likely have some slight discomfort but I don't THINK any major w/d's.

and as much as i hate to say this: since you're going on vacation, save the last 5mg in case things feel BAD. don't take it now if you are feeling ok.. you might need it later.

then don't pick up this sh** again.... because you can bet your a** you won't get as lucky next time...

good luck, buddy...
mj

[avisg]

You should be ok ,You may have slight WD but over all you have not taken very much for very long . Remember its mind over matter sometimes too. we can make it worse then it really is, the mind is a powerful thing.Good luck I hope you have a great trip .
Avis