Realllly need help...

[Tiffany55]

I REALLY need some suggestions. I really wish I had a doctor so I could talk to someone, or get on Suboxen. I feel like I have no way to cope...I dont even have friends around here now so its not like I can go out and enjoy anything. Please help :(

[gizzy32]

what is better, starting over at 22, or starting or at 32? im sorry your having such a difficult time right now and you probably feel like there is no hope, but there is. you can't do this on your own and i think you know that by now. by getting clean and staying that way, your life will improve greatly, but right now you are fighting so hard to acheive that, you need to fight even harder if you truly want this and i can tell you do. i am proud you are reaching out again and seeking the support you need. i hope things get better for you soon, but it won't be easy. don't give up hope now, happiness is around the corner. no more excuses, i know you can do this, you just have to believe that for yourself. best of luck to you tiffany.

[Tiffany55]

Another obstacle in the whole doctor thing is, my dad thinks I should just do this on my own, but he doesnt get how hard it is for me. He doesnt have ANY idea. I mean hes gone through this so he knows its hard, but I'm also 22, living in an area I dont even know, hes taken my car away from me, I am trying to get a job, I just pretty much have NOTHING. I really really want to go to a doctor but he is SO stubborn

[Crispy]

a DR. visit is only about 50-90 dollars if you can get that together you can go see a dr. they dont always require insurance especially sub. drs. it seems like.

[Tiffany55]

Hi thanks for the long response...so here goes

I have been taking percocet and vicodin for about 3 years. I have never been prescribed to it, mostly just bought it...I was taking only like 50mg or so a day, sometimes less sometimes more. I took it because it made me feel like I actually wanted to do things...it just helped me feel like I had a purpose I guess. Before I was using I was a little depressed, I had fun hanging out with friends..the usual 19 year old girl stuff, but now I have NO friends here, and I have NO money (I'm really in debt)

I have no job yet, and no insurance so I have NO way to get to a doctor and figure things out...I feel SO stuck. I have tried quitting about 3 or 4 times, each time I relapsed after about 2 or 3 weeks...

So, what should I do??!!!

[poetrygirl1960]

How long did you use?  Was it always percocet?  Think back to the time before you used anything....................what did you love?  What was your passion?  I'm sure it's still there, you will see it from a different perspective but it's still there.  That would at least soak up a good part of your day.

Also maybe your dad is against suboxone, but it sounds like he really does love you and cares what happens to you.  I bet he would be glad to take you to a doctor or clinic.  That way they would be deciding if you should c/t, taper, or suboxone if you need that.  But, don't be afraid of what they will tell you, it might not be what you want to hear.  Sad is probably right and you have gone through most of the physical, after that you still have to face the mental depression.  Sub or not.  I know yes it does make it easier but unless you have tried to quit countless times and tried everything else most likely they aren't going to want to put you on suboxone.

Sorry this is so long, but I just wanted to give you a good answer because I wish someone had once taken that time for me.  The amino acid protocol really is great and I would highly recommend it.  I take a lot of them and it doesn't take long to be able to feel the difference.  Good luck Tiffany, hope you keep posting.

Lisa

[Tiffany55]

Yeah...about a total of 4 weeks, but a lot has changed since then. Now Im living in a new place where I dont know anyone except some family....I just feel so alone, and I feel like I cant find anything that keeps my mind occupied and makes me happy...

[Crispy]

tiff im so so sorry your hurting that bad I wish i could do something for u, but on the other hand u seemed like you really relyed on the sub. have u had any clean time at all without your percs or sub before?

[Tiffany55]

Thanks everyone, I just feel like nothing is really helping though. I have no hobbies, I have no way to just forget about things. I'm always thinking and 90% of the time Im thinking about how badly I wish I could just have a pill. I want to be on Sub. so bad, I havent felt relief like that in SO long...this really stinks :(

[GoingToMakeIt]

Tiff, look at the health pages for amino acid protocol post. They're on the top right of page. There are some there that could help you. Are you getting exercise? That helps to get the endorphin production started again. Addicts don't make endorphins without kick starting it.

[sadinmichigan]

please don't take anything else..that is only going to prolong the inevitable..if you want to be clean you have to stay off all of it..i don't know your history with drugs but if it's been since thursday that you took sub..Why start back to square one..The mental part is very hard. i have been struggling as well but it takes time, and you just can't by pass that..we are all here for you.Find a meeting in your area..i'm sure your dad would take you and i can see why he wouldn't want you to take anymore sub..he wants you to fight for yourself!! do you know what i mean by that?..you can do this..if you have to stay on here all the time lol thats what i do..i have no car,no friends close by and too much time on my hands to think..good luck and we are all here

[worried878]

Aftercare is so important at this point...Can you hit an NA meeting in your area....800-467-7314...and u can find one close by....posting helps too...this mental part is hard and you do need support...sounds like your dad has helped you somewhat tho...there are also vitamins and supplements to help with depression and anxiety if you can not get to a doctor...keep posting   lots of support here

[Tiffany55]

I was clean, but that only lasted about 2 weeks. Then I was forced to move down with my dad, which means I was forced to stop c/t....but then he saw how hard it was for me and he has a friend that had taken sub.(my dad also took it) but his friend had some left over...theyve both been clean for a few years and they figured it would be ok to give me a couple, he broke them up and gave me a little at a time...and now he thinks that was a bad idea and expects me to just live with it...

[Tiffany55]

I took my last perk...wow about 3 weeks ago, maybe more...I'm more in mental withdrawals then anything. I still am having some night sweats and leg cramping...but its definitely the mental thats really tearing me down...I have given some thought to NA meetings, I could try..but its so hard because I have no car here, I guess I could talk to my dad about it, but I just really want this mental stuff to get better, and the sub. was helping so much, I wish I had a way to get to a doctor...

[hopsing94]

Tiffany I thought you had gotten clean. Whats going on. How long have you been using this time and how many are you taking again. How is it your dad gives you suboxone but wont let you see a doctor for it.

[GoingToMakeIt]

When was your last opiate taken?
Are you in withdrawals?
Can you join a NA meeting?

[Tiffany55]

I took my last piece of Suboxen on Thursday...

[Tiffany55]

I would love to be able to go see a doctor, the problem is...I have no insurance right now. And I dont think my dad will support me going to see a doctor for Sub. he doesnt believe in it. And he is pretty much the warden right now, his decision is the RIGHT decision and there is NO swaying that.

[GoingToMakeIt]

See, I told you you have friends here. suboxone.com or naatb.org can help you find Drs.

[kim715]

I just read your post from 20 minutes ago.You said your dad was giving you pieces of sub.How long has it been since you've taken anything at all?

[slk714]

im here for you, im going through the w/ds, but please feel free to pm me i would love to talk to you....k....i dont know about the suboxen, but i will try my darnest to support you until you get the answers you need

[lifesaride]

HI,  what have you been taking? sorry you have nobody, but maybe you do and dont realize that you do. pills seem to have this power of isolation, your own lil world we start to create from taking pills.

[Rose703]

Finding a doctor to help you with the Suboxen shouldn't be that hard, but make sure you make an informed decision. What is your DOC and how much do you use? We're here to help you and I'm living proof that you can get clean without using anything and going CT. Please PM me if you have any questions and I will help you as much as I can.