How long?

[twindad]

Hello everyone, yesterday I tookmy last percoset. I was able to sleep OK last night, but I feel no energy this morning. How long will it take before I can wake up? I had been taking the percs for 2 years. I was up as high as 20 a day. I am glad I quit, but feel like ****.

[puma]

Hi Norkie,

I am sorry to hear you have no resourses out there in the Congo.
I do have experience with Codiene withdrawal. I took 300 or more mg's a day for over one year.

When my Doc found out I was drinking again she cut me off on a Slash/Crash from the Codiene, 10 MG'S of Klonopin and I could'nt drink because I couldn't hold anything down for nearly three weeks. Only water the last five days before I saw my doc again and she saw my blood pressure was 165/113 and I could barely walk into her clinic and could barely drive I was so spaced out, felt violent, I am sure I was more of a danger on the road than a drunk driver at that time.

Most of my symptoms were the Klonopin withdrawal, Valium is similar to Klonopin so be careful not to take it too long so as not to become addicted to that. The withdrawal is worse than the Codiene.

The reason I know the withdrawal was mostly from the Klonopin and alcohol is because they have similar withdraw symptoms and I have withdrawn from Codiene by itself in the past and felt like **** from the return pain and some nausea but it wasn't that bad. I rememeber having some light shakes for several days, then it went away. The pain stayed with me however since I have Fribromyalgia so I was uncomfortable most of the time until turning to booze years later. A major mistake I might add.

The Klonopin shakes are like an earthquake and last for weeks. Not to mention the DT'S, hallucinations, nightmares when you can sleep at all, etc.

Hang in there, if you are on day-3 of Codiene you should be past most of the worst unless you really have a serious pain problem in which case you may truely need it. Keep posting and let us know how you are doing. Take care and good luck.

Chatahan........wildcat

[misd]

I myself have never been addicted to sleeping meds but if you have I would be very careful with taking them, try taking tylonal pm, someone once told me it was the poor man's valum,lol I have been very lucky this time around with my detox, it has been day 6 for me and I actually feel normal well almost normal again. It is hard to get sleep when you are going through withdraw and the sweats was the worse for me. I tried to sleep last night without any sleep aid and ended up haveing to take half a muschle relaxer after 12 this morning. I wish you luck and just be careful taking the valum. Only you know your limit.
Take care and God Bless.
Mis

[norki]

It's my 3rd day off coediene, and I feel like total ****. I took a look at the Thomas recipe, but what about the valium? As an addict, I get hooked on anything. Been hooked on sleeping pills before, so it is safe to take just to get some sleep, and deal with the aches and especially the restless legs? Anyways, I live in The Congo. (used to live in Canada, but had to move here because of my husband's businness.) Here everything is available, and nobody knows anything about addiction. No addiction docs, no AA. Nobody to talk to about my situation except my husband and the poor guy doesn't know how to help with the pain of detox. So, can someone suggest if it's safe to take Valium at night? I'm afraid of getting hooked on it too. Just want to feel healthy and strong again.

[misd]

Hi all Im not really new to the forum jsut lost my id and password, What happened was I got clean and then slid right back into evil web of drugs, well here I am again. I was clean and ended up having to have a complete hyeterectomy because my bladder was attached to my uterus and I knew once I had the surgery and was put back on the pain med's I would fall back into my old way's. I tried to hide it from my husband but I should have known he would find out. Everything I have ever done in my life always comes back on me. My mom always told me that and boy was she true. I had piled up a debt with my dealer for $1,300 . Yes i know this is alot, but it was over a few months period of time. I only took hydrocodone, lortab,lorcet, perk's. but mostly lortab and lorcet. well my husband has given me another chance this is my last and final chance to get my act together. I have hurt him so bad. But he has to love me to want to help me.
I have read the other posts on how long, my question is how long will it take me to feel normal again, I was taking 10 and 11 lortab's a day, I have no choice but to go cold turkey, can I do that without alot of withdraw? I am not sure I can.
Any advice you guy's can give me will be fantastic. thanks for listening,
Misd

[twindad]

Yes, I am using 800mg Motrin, and truthfully, a tiny bit of weed once in a while. I really don't feel all that great physically, but I am sure starting to feel better cognitively and emotionally! It's like starting to wake from a 2 year bad dream. I just can't believe that I got as bad as I did with lying about losing perscriptions and acting like a demanding drug addict when my pills ran low. It feels like I have been released from a prison of my own design. Yesterday (day4) I started to think that a percoset sure would make me feel better, but then I started to think about the guilt I was feeling by thinking that. I guess I feel a little like thre Christian Zealots in that, it has to hurt a little to remind me just how easy things can spiral out of control. I meant you no harm as well and am sure that you are actually a very nice person going through a bad situation. Peace, TD

[peaz]

It's funny that you called me Lady Di 'cause that's my radio name....Hope your MRI produces some good results.  I am SO claustrophobic; I would need a ton of Valium.  But for 50 minutes?? Faaaggedaboudit.
   I woke up at 4:415 AM, couldn't get back to sleep, so now I'm cranky.  It's been nearly a year since I've used--shouldn't things be getting back to normal soon?  Do you have insomnia?  It seems to be a lingering side effect of opiate abuse.  My moods are actually pretty good, and so is energy, but I can't sleep ever 4-5 hours at a time it seems.  I'll talk to you Monday.  Have a smashing weekend.  You can e-mail me, TOO, ya know... :-)  Didee-do

[groovygirl]

I'm sorry you were offended by my post about education.  It wasn't really just about education...I tried to explain it in another post.  What it boils down to is I guess I've seen too many people come here and brag about their "things" - these people have seemed to need us "addicts" to know that they are really above all of this...believe me, many of them weren't just saying how proud they were of themselves.  Anyway...let's just drop it shall we?

I want to know how you feel so good on day 4 of sobriety?  Maybe I'm just a total wimp, but I've never made it past a week of being totally clean.  At 7 days, I was still feeling VERY bad.  Are you using something to help with the symptoms?

[athena]

Hey lady Di....
I got your mail and Im so jealous of your getaway lol.It sounds like a lot of fun.My bags are packed and at the door.I didn't get to trick or treat,had to get that MRI.50 min.in that thing ugh!!I sure hope it tells the story.Yeah,we coul have gone as that but im afraid they wouldnt have given us the treats we wanted.lol Seriously though,I hope you have a fantastic time.It will be tough not hearing from ya for a while but i'll try to hang on.lol Stay warm and cozy and behave!!
The patches are rx but well worth getting for shingles.Talk to ya soon.

Deb

[puma]

Pixi,

Hi, good morning, or evening, your time I suppose. I love reading your posts as they are so encouraging and inspirational. If ever you tire of the weather their, feel free to come out here and join me in typhoon chasing, my song producing, plant nursery I am starting and so on.

It is all easy, The typhoon tracking I now only do as hobby for chasing purpases to enjoy the wind and rain. Video of typhoons can make alot of money however. Tornadoes too, but I have not been back to the States to chase in 10 years! I know most of the tornado chasers there. Since you are a person who seems to love t-storms and the wind, maybe we can get together for a chat some day in the future. I am working hard to get completely clean and take courses in drug and alcohol counseling which they really need here. If you have that experience or certification you would have it made as far as work goes.

Tell me more about your plans in life and how your situation is there back in the ole U.S.A.  We are U.S. here too but it is so quiet comparitively and laid back. A paradize for me. I want to stay sober to enjoy it and not sleep my way through it. Eesh, I am babbling today, anyway, have a great weekend and God Bless you.

Chatahan

[Starraven]

You are so right, ALOT of it is mental. I know I will eventually have to take the painkillers again.  I do believe I have truely learned my lesson this time around.  Something I did this time that I didn't do last time was keeping a daily journal of my hell. So I don't forget.  Today is a good day.  Tomorrow even better, thanks again for your encouragement.  Really means alot!
I'm happy!  Imagine that! I think I have grown up alot in the last month!
Hugs,
Suze

[puma]

Leighbee,

Sorry if I spelled it wrong but as soon as I read the post I felt
a chill run down me. I cannot believe your husband threw away your Klonopin. You should have him look at Klonopin withdrawal on the internet and see that it can kill you if not treated on a slow taper or in-patient basis. At one time I would have probably beat my ex-boyfriend if he flushed my Klonopin. He was an alcoholic who did not work, so I had nothing to worry about with him.

I have been through the worst of the c/t detox, Delirium Tremons, seizures, hallucinations and so on. Not to mention heaving my guts out and not eating for nearly three weeks. I lost 20 pounds.

Tell your hubby how dangerous detox can be and to help according to real knowledge of what you are taking and how much and go through a doctor and have your hubby hold the pills and divy them out. But to flush them was irresponsible and could have killed you!!!! I was so pissed when I read that.

I read from the bottom up, so maybe I am over re-acting, but  as far as Docs I speak from yesterday's experience. Docs do not like to give out extra class-2 drugs if they feel you may have used too many too soon. They look at flushing, stolen, dog eating them etc. all as excuses to get more. My Doc yesterday almost did not provide me my Klonopin because their own med clinic shorted me, and I never bothered to count the pills, but I told him there was no way they could fit the amount he prescribed for one month in the small bottle they gave me.

He prescribed enough only until I see him in two weeks, but he was very suspicious that I overused and I know I did not. He said he will keep track of their pharmicist and I agreed to write down the times I take the meds etc. It was very uncomfortable as I did not want to go through the DT'S yet again.

Please tell your husband you appreciate his help but he needs education on the subject of addiction and withdrawal and not to play God which may end up with you suffering greatly and maybe worse.

I am worried about you. Please keep us informed. I will be praying. Take care, and congradulations for coming clean with your husband but he has to also give his support in the correct manner. Take care and good luck,

Chatahan

[bmac]

Once you go thru this hell we put ourselves thru I think some of us learn a great lesson.I have not once since being back on the meds have I taken anymore than prescribed.I feel much better and
don't even feel a bit high from it.I really think alot of this is mental.I know that for now I will be on meds and I have accepted it.I have a good pain doc and and good PCP doc.If I ever decide to stop the meds again I know now how to do it.
Good luck on being human again.It does feel wonderful to laugh with your children again,I know this feeling and the relationship with the spouse can be a normal one,if you get my drift and I know you do.Be happy
                           bmac

[Starraven]

Thanks so much for your encouraging words.  I've said it before and I'll say it again, this forum was really GOOD for me and still is!  I honestly never thought I would make it to day 31!

Yesterday was a real turning point for me.  It was like a calm came over me.  My husband and I have become closer and we have started enjoying eachother again, my kids are estatic to have thier "fun" mom back.  We all sat around and carved our pumpkins and as simple as it sounds, it was a most enjoyable time for all of us as a family!  :)

I know one day my deteriorating back will require more surgery and possibly more pain medication, I just hope when that day comes I will have learned my lesson and be able to control my addictive personality and take my meds responsibly as you do Bill.

Hugs to all,
Star/ Suzette

[athena]

peaz!!!Im so glad to hear from you.I have missed you on here.I didn't get your email.peaz peaz try again.lol How are you?Still funny as ever I hope.

pixi

[bmac]

Day 31! I remember that day for me.It was a point where I realized things were going to OK.I am glad you made it this far.
I remember your day 18 when you came here for the first time and you were going thru the same exact thing as I did.Well congrats on being a human again.I am sure your husband and kids are glad to see you back,
                           Peace,
                           Bmac

[Starraven]

Hi, I just wanted to congratulate both of you.  I know day 4 is difficult and day two is horrific. (at least it was for me) Twindad, good for you for going out with your family! On day three I had a birthday party for my four year old and it took EVERYTHING I could muster to get through that. Just going to the grocery store for the first two weeks was a job for me.  I was so weak and fatigued as I went cold turkey and found this site on day 18.  I have started the recipe since then and that helped alot.  Luckily I have the support of my family.  My husband, father and two older children.  Now I am on day 31 and I am feeling so much better.  I can laugh with the children now, my animation is returning and my family is loving it. MOM IS BACK!

Leighbee, your husband really should read up on physical dependence.  He should be supportive and not run around the house looking for your meds and disposing of them.  Doesn't he want to help you get through this as painlessly as possible?  That would make me feel real alone in my struggle to get clean.  Cold turkey is pure hell, I sure wouldn't want to be FORCED to go cold turkey if I didn't feel I could handle it.  That is a decision WE as addicts have to make on our own.  It shouldn't be forced upon us by our so called well meaning spouses.  
Just the thought of him doing this, makes me..a stranger very upset that he is putting you through this.  

Good luck to both of you!  Your doing great!  
Hugs,
Star

[peaz]

Hey--Just wondering if you got my e-mail a couple of days ago.  I've been having some trouble w/ out-going mail.  Happy Halloween!                        Peaz

[Witchywoman]

Thanks Jess!  It's my New Year, and one of the sacredest holidays of my religion.  Very sweet of you to remember. Thank you.

love,
WW

[athena]

Good morning.Congrats on day 4.Give yourself a big pat on the back!I just loved the dumbo anology.

pixi

[twindad]

Leighbee, I am so proud of you!! I am now on day 4 of complete abstenance from Percoset, and I am starting to feel alot better. I had a close friend of mine who gave me an anology about my reservations to quit. She said, "do you remember the Disney movie Dumbo?" It seems that Dumbo was given a magic feather and told that it would help him fly. Dumbo used this feather and was able to fly. Then, one day Dumbo couldn't find the feather and the mouse that gave Dumbo the feather told him. It was never the feather that enabled you to fly! It was you all along that could fly. When I thought about living my life without my feather (my Percoset), I was afraid that I would not be able to fly. But, now I am day four and actually feel better than I have in a long time. I went out with my family to Costco last night to do some needless spending, and I made it through even though I was a little tired/fatigued. You can do this Leighbee! Use this support group as your feather until you have the strenght to fly on your own. From what I can see, there are some pretty good people here. Peace,  Twindad

[groovygirl]

Hi - If I was on day 2, I wouldn't be able to drag my butt out tonight either...is your husband going to do it for you?

Do you tell him that his actions do not help you?  That would make me SO angry.  

Keep up the good work...a week from now, you'll feel better...each week after that will just keep getting better and better.

[athena]

Good morning leigh.I just wanted to let you know that your in my prayers.I know how hard w/d is but it will get better soon.Hang in there.I know your probably angry at your husband right now but he probably truly believes he is helping you.You will be glad later when you start feeling better.while I was going through w/d I was angry at the world for having to give up my best friend.This too shall pass,good luck and God bless you.

pixi

[leighbee]

Well, on day two of living drug free and it sucks!!  My husband searched through all of my things and took all of my "stashes."  I had really kept some in case of an emergency.  I got a prescription refilled yesterday and he found it in my coat pocket and took that too.  I the main reason I got it was because I wanted to have something incase the pain got too bad.
I slept most of the day yesterday (I guess my body is physically exhausted from all that I have put it through lately).  I took one Klonopin in the AM and some dramamine in the PM.  My all knowing husband took it upon himself to throw away all but two of the Klonopin and I was counting on using those in getting through some of the detox.
I don't know if I feel physically as bad today as I did yesterday, but I do feel lethargic and depressed. Tonight is Halloween and I just don't know if I am going to be up to helping the children get ready and certaintly not up to going trick or treating.
I had 1 1/2 Klonopin left and I took that this morning.  The thing that my husband doesn't understand is that I can get the drugs if I want to and by him running around throwing everything away, it makes me more determined to get them.  That was one of the main reasons I didn't want to tell him because I knew he would be constantly looking over my shoulder.
Anyway, I have rambled too long.  I have a feeling that today might be worse than yesterday.  Thank you so much for all your support- you don't know how much it means to me in my hour of need!!

Leighbee

[GOD]

Happy Holidays to YOU my Wiccan friend!

I hope your feeling OK tonight.... I KNOW you're gonna' be busy tomorrow~!

~~~~Jess~~~~