LARCETS AND WEED?

[GLOCK]

Hi all i was wondering if you can help me .
I'm a 37 year old male i do realy well in life i have a good family and love life but i've been doing drugs for 24 years and like weed i realy don't like any other drugs any more .
I started doing larcets aroung a year ago on and off and i find lately if i don't have thim i feel like i'm turning inside out!
I use to smoke weed 5 to 10 time aday but if i smoke now i feel like i do when i'm not doing larcets.
I know i need help but i can't go to rehab i have a family that loves me and i love them i just want to feel better can any one tell me how long i have to not sleep,eat or feel good before it go's away?
Any info would be cool.
Any sites on LARCET addiction would be a great help.

[Thomas]

it's a sad but intelligent conclusion you have come to. So he has multiple ex wives, too. Sounds like he's used to going through women. I bet he was pissed when you went on the fentenyl patch, giving him no way of stealing your medication. And now he's persuaded your doctor to give him BOTH methadone and oxycodone? Speaking as a recovering rx narcotics addict, I think he must be having a high high from all that stuff. After reading endless posts about oxy on this forum, about 9 months ago I just had to see what the whole thing was about and got some oxycontin from my doctor. I wasn't 3 pills into the script when I started schewing them up for effect. Half way through the bottle, I had them pulverized and I was doing oxy lines like they were coke. I know it relieves a lot of pain, and I think any pain patient that wants it should get it, but if you're just after a high, oxy's sublime. I'm afraid your ex-boyfriend is totally into himself and his high right now. Thank god you didn't marry him! I'm afraid he isn't anywhere near hitting bottom. But rest assured he will.

If the pattern holds, he'll lose his job, milk disability as far as he can, and when your doctor cuts him off and he has no medical insurance to pay for more doctors, he'll resort to illegal means to obtain the stuff and eventually get popped. I hope he turns it around without having to go through the whole scenario, but it's a familiar story you're telling. He's not going to be a suitable mate for anyone for a long time, if ever.

I hope you find someone who appreciates what he's getting. Everyone willing to give love certainly should receive it. E-mail me anytime you want to talk at:

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Thomas

[Angelica]

There is no way for me to top anything these wonderful people have told you.  I just noticed something in your post that I can totally relate too.  You said that your wife can sleep through withdrawals w/ no problem.  I had to smile, because my husband is the same way(different circumstances), and he can sleep through a world war, or hurricane.......LOL  I can recall agonizing over a family crisis or something........and he sleeps through it like a baby.  LOL One thing I can relate to is how you must feel.  Very alone........sitting there going through this terrible ordeal...while your wife is snoozing away. LOL  Well, you come to the right place....there will always be someone here to help you, or answer your post. JB, Tom, Wizard, Cindi.....all great sources of support.  My situation is a little different, but they've been my lifeline....and many others too.  Hang in there......these people are priceless....
God Bless you,
Angelica

[susanlea]

Thanks. Two years ago a friend gave him oxy's for recreational use. I have fibromyalgia and other stuff. I think Dr.s created the Fibro name, for when they can't figure out what you have. I have always had narcotics. I don't particulary like them. Now I take the patch. Anyway he would take my meds when he could. Then he started going to my Dr. and got oxy's and perc's. This was over 2 years ago.  As time when by he got more and more addicted, became sick with withdrawals all the time, mean verbally abusive. One year ago he went into the hospital for detox, aweek later came out. Meetings 2 times aweek a great sponser, family support. Bingo! 3 weeks later, he's back using, abusing, lying anything he could get away with. He had already missed 3 months of work last year. He stayed in another room, distant, wouldn't talk, sleep all the time. We hadn't kissed, talked or had sex in over a year at that point. He never told his Dr. about his addiction. In Dec. he left, came back aweek later, getting sick again, slowly. He was nice for about amonth said he wanted to get better, work it out. Missed another month of work in Feb.(really close to being fired) Got Methadone from the Dr. told him he needed help getting off the oxy's. Became mean again. Left mid March, (38 yrs old, 4 kids) moved in with his mom and dad. Won't talk to me, nothing. It's over,I'm sad but Ok. My kids'can't stand him, because of his verbal abuse. The other day, I find out he's using both oxy's and methadone. Will not do a program, meetings, sponser, nothing. He says he can do it on his own. I spent almost 6 years with him(not married, my kids are not his) I was almost finacially ruined because of him, he will not help with money. I paid his way, his child support for 4 months. I gave him a car so he could go to work. This man has some money. But he has never had anything or anyone in his life before me. His exwife hates him, all his ex's dislike him, his children don't want anything to do with him. Everyone says he's a loser. Now it looks as if he will never have anything. I think I need to let go....Thanks for your help....Love Susan

[Thomas]

Hi lea,

refresh my memory about your ex ... He's on the methadone for addiction and getting oxy from another doctor for headaches? Does the doctor prescribing the oxy know about the methadone? All I can say about him now based on what you say is that he's found a new love, namely oxycodone. If he's on a lot of it or getting it from multiple doctors he could be in a half-dreamworld all the time, one that takes him away from his responsibilities, like wife and family, etc. He may resent you now because you remind him of all the responsibilities and pressures this oxy dreamworld relieves him of. He's crawled back into the womb where it's nice a warm and peaceful, nobody demanding anything of him ... and then here you come reminding him of his life. I'm playing amateur psychologist now, but what I say is based on my own experience with prescription narcotics. There was a time I was getting Vics and demerol injections almost every day and I remember resenting anybody who intruded on this warm, dreamy fantasy life I was living most of the time. The flu symptoms could have to do with addiction, but it sounds like he's getting all the drugs he needs - unless he's on something stronger and isn't telling anyone. Secrecy is a hallmark of addiction, among other things. I have to go meet someone right now or I'd write more. I'll be back in about three hours if you want to talk some more.

Peace

Thomas

[susanlea]

How are you doing? It's been kind of quiet on the forum? Where's Spook? What happened to Maximus? I need to ask you something, you always have the answers. I talked with my ex on Thursday, he was off and sick again. I had heard he was back on oxy's along with the methadone. What is this Dr. doing? He's now been on about 30 or so mg's. of methadone for about 3 1/2 months, is he going to have a hard time coming off it? Also, he's always sick, does the drugs lower his immunity? He owes me some money, and I told him I needed some, he said he was getting paid the next day, and would call and give me some. It's now Sunday afternoon, and I haven't heard a word. He's alot of things, but he's never let me down regarding the money issue. Am I being paranoid here? But I have had a feeling of impending doom, about him the last several days. I've always been keenly aware when somethings not right with him, and I feel something really bad has, or is about to. I just can't get what's going on here, he's never even made an effort over the past 3 months since he's been gone, to come and get his stuff. It's almost like he's just staying the weekend with his parents. It's like he just doesn't care! He's pretty mad at me right now, my knowing about the oxy's from the Dr. He thinks I'm being nosey, but honest to God, I didn't ask, the nurse just volunteered  it. He is always mad at me, acts like he hates me. Why doesn't he just pay me back, believe me he has the money, and been done with it, no more contact needed. I told him I would keep his dog, since he can't care for it. He's not on any antidepressents, he doesn't believe in them. Can he be depressed? I just don't understand, how someone so healthy and in great shape just 3 years ago, can become sick eveyday, either a headach, flu, cold. That's how he got started on the oxy's in the first place, was complaining of headachs. I have that feeling he'll never get better, and that he might die. Do some addicts never get over it, and do some never want to get better. I'm just afraid, that the next time I see him, it will be at his funeral. I have really, really bad vibes today. Thank You Thomas......Love Susan

[Thomas]

I watched Gladiator last night, too. Great movie! I know when I went through the WDs (at one point with Vicodin, I could only get a small script twice a week; my tolerance was so high that that only took care of half the week; the other half was spent going into WD; I did that every week for years) I only had the strength to watch movies. They helped psychologically, at least, because they took me away from the misery I was in.

The reason I'm posting now is this: two things you need to do right now: first, get 6 or 8 bucks and get some brand-name Imodium at the grocery or drug store. Right now, you're dehydrating yourself by letting the runs continue. That alone will make you feel terrible. You've got to get the runs stopped and get fluids into yourself NOW. The Imodium really works, too. It's not some worthless OTC drug. Take two or three right away and then every time you feel your bowels waking up, take two more immediately. That first dose will probably stop the runs in 15 minutes. So, get out of bed and drag yourself down to the store. Seriously, ending the runs and restoring your body fluids will make you feel tons better. If you called a doctor right now, that would be his first concern, I promise.

The other thing is this: don't lie in bed and cramp. Get into a hot tub or even hot shower if that's all you've got available.

The Tyrosine will be about 12 bucks, maybe less, and the B6 probably under ten.

But they can wait. Right now, get that Imodium or you're seriously f'd, my friend. Good luck.

Thomas