Help, husband quit smoking pot very crabby!

[lifeisbetter]

OK guys, I need some advice please! My husband has been a daily pot smoker since he was 13. We've been married 8 years and he's tried to quit 3 times. Never for long but always a complete jerk to my kids and myself  but, I used to have my pills to escape his extreme irritability. Well he quit again 2 weeks ago. It sucks!!! He's been an ass to me this whole time but he wants me to be with him to make him feel better,if you know what I mean. He says he'll make it up to me. It is sooo hard for me to give him a break. He lives for our kids and is the responsible one in our relationship. The problem is he lets me know it ALL THE TIME. I have never smoked pot so does anyone have any comments on how long this will last. What should I expect as far as withdrawel? He's seen me detox at home sooo many times but I was never mean to him. I should be grateful that we will both finally be clean for our kids. I think I'm afraid I'll relapse because he makes me feel so badly about myself when he's like this. I can do nothing right you know? How can I help him get through this without losing my own sanity in the meantime?

[tex3]

I wish I had some concrete answers on how long it will take him to get through that, but I just don't know. I can empathize, though. My husband chews tobacco, a disgusting habit I despise. He's tried to quit several times and is always a real ass when he does. He's never been successful as he always goes back when it gets too bad.
What I would suggest is telling your husband what you told us; how he's made you feel with his behavior. Maybe that will be enough to lighten him up some, if he realizes he is making you feel so awful. If that doesn't work, come here and *****, but don't go back to using! You know that would be a mistake and a rationalization, so I don't have to tell you that. How are you doing, otherwise? Hang in there; maybe soon you will both be free of this beast!

[Avs]

Greetings to all. I am a first time poster, and bad enough I had to break a Thread but you can't post otherwise. Before I begin I've seen post in the past couple of days and I want to get this off my shoulder, GWH, no matter what happened, hold your head up - you did nothing wrong my friend, I'm not sure about what happened in the past and don't want to bring it up, but hold your head up, and like I always say, "Smile, It's the Only thing that don't cost and it's contagous." Now, on to my question. I've been on Xanax for over 2 years, well a generic version, 2 mg name brand can be expensive. I recently went to a new pharmacy and they carry the "Geneva" generic, is it possible for this to be a little stronger? As well as all of us know on benzo's after a while you become prone to the side effects of them, however this seems stronger than the "Mylan or any other, even name brand." Yes I do know my medication, I can't say I abuse them, however it appears this group will give you real answers. I thank you in advance.

[groovygirl]

i'm sure there are tons and tons of drug info sites you could find to get that information.  this is an addiction help forum. people here are trying to get off drugs, not think about what the strongest benzos are.  i feel overly protective of members here when it comes to people coming here to get info on the effects of drugs, and i'm sorry if this sounds harsh. to break a thread where someone is reaching out for help, to ask about the srength of some benzo is rude and insensitive.

[mrmichael67]

As soon as I saw your name in the list of posts under the question, I knew you were going to complain about someone butting into the post.  What are people supposed to do when this board only allows one question a day?  I can't see how one person should be able to have the floor for an entire 24 hours and screw everybody else!  Everyone here has a right to ask a question.  I think your frustration should be aimed at the people who maintain this place.  If they had someone who could archive the other 'dead' threads, then maybe they could allow more than one question a day.  And, the person you just bashed really didn't do anything wrong.  They just asked whether it was possible for a certain generic to be stronger than another or even the name brand.  I think you should lighten up a little....I mean a lot.  Don't worry, I think the original poster will have their question answered.  I could see if they put a limit on the number of posts allowed in a thread, but they don't.  Plenty of room for everyone.  It's the radioboy thread and what you just posted that finalized my decision to leave here.  Things around here will never change.  There will always be someone who has a chip on their shoulder and that shouldn't have to be anyone else's problem.

[groovygirl]

whatever - i don't think this is the place to dig up info on drugs - this is specifically an addiction site...it is totally inappropriate to ask those questions here.  if you don't like it, tough ****.

[mrmichael67]

I still don't see what was wrong with that post.  And, nice language.  You're right, this is an addiction forum, not a truck driver's convention.

[mrmichael67]

I just had to see the response in case you were wondering why I haven't left. From now on, you won't see my name anymore.

[Avs]

I broke the thread because I don't want to overdose, think before you speak, talk about rude.

[GOD]

Hey,

Please don't leave the forum! Some of us REALLY appreciate your insight and knowledge of our chosen subject. Lately, a lot of the people on this forum have gotten a chip on their shoulder, or are just downright pissy. All of us have had bad days at one time or the other.....

But, as I said before, I hope you can find it in your heart to stick around! I believe that you have personally saved more than one life here, and THAT is what really matters. Keep up your good work!

Cheers,
Jess

[Mamafeathers]

Hello, I am new here... and I am certainly not an expert but I have dealt with a fiance who was an alchoholic, so I have dealt with that sort of attitude before.  I think totally understand what you are feeling - it's tough!  I think the most important thing is for you to not LET him 'use' YOU as his 'fix'.  Easier said than done.  I guess that falls under the whole co-dependent thing, eh?  I have no shining words of advice that come to mind, except for a bunch of cliches like 'hang in there'which are probably of no help... but please know I am rooting for you and wishing both of you ALL the best!  My fiance, Steve, eventually passed away - and I am now very happily married to a terrific man - but I often think of Steve and wonder how it must have felt to be in such a place as that (addiction to alchohol), and to that extreme.  He couldn't get out of bed without a beer.  He was NEVER without a beer in his hand.  EVER.  I'm currently wondering if I am becoming addicted to Vicodin, after being given some 3 weeks ago for pain after major surgery - which is how I found this site... but that's another story, and I didn't come here to break your thread - just to show some support.  WIshing you all the best!

[groovygirl]

i'm sure your dr and pharmacist would have said something about the strength if there was danger of overdosing. if taken as prescribed, i'm sure there is nothing to worry about.

why is it ok for others to post messages similar to mine when in the past people have come here asking questions about drugs?

mrmichael sounds like dive - angry and self-serving.  i was trying to take care of the forum...maybe i was harsh, but i hate people thinking that just because there are a bunch of addicts here, it is a drug info site...there are plenty of those places...there aren't plenty of sites just like this.

[groovygirl]

please stop the vics now if you possibly can!!!  you haven't gotten to the point of no return yet.  i know they make you feel good now, but after awhile they won't give you that feeling anymore, and you will need to take them to simply feel normal.  addicts chase that feeling they got at the beginning of their addiction.

[groovygirl]

i'm not just being pissy.  i'm trying to save this forum from becoming an info site for drug seekers.

[GOD]

Sorry about the "Pissy" remark.... I think I was crabby at the time, and you do have a good point about the "Seekers"--

Anyway, Have a great day and shine on!

Jess

[Avs]

To be completeley honest it sounded like some people, no names mentioned were high last night when they posted.  Lighten up in this room, we are here to help each other, as for as those who have problems with Thread breaing due to Question limitations, do us a favor, leave the freaking forum.

[Hinkster]

Mrmichael hang in there bud. You offer a wealth of good info.
Hell I even read somewhere in here where someone ask if you
were a doctor. Thats the ulitmate compliment. You would be
missed. I don't think Groovey meant any harm she is just looking
out for the forum. Please think twice before you bolt. I can
always get you on the other forum, but some of these good people
who need help don't have that luxury.
Tom

[hippy]

mr. michael, has been helpful and informitive , i for one am grateful,

[Witchywoman]

Hang in there folks. Over the year and a half I've been on this forum, I see us go through this kind of thing periodically.

I too find it important personally that this forum remain focused on recovery issues.  I've learned though that we need to be flexible on the posts because sometimes people start to post before they admit that they have an addiction. When I first started to post, I lurked for a while and didn't post until I was ready to write the words "I am an addict".  While I was in early recovery I found it extremely tough to wade through posts that were focused on recreational use or posts from folks who discussed the joys of getting high.  It does help to keep posts focused on recovery issues, rather than have this board serve as a place to get info on drug strength etc.  But we dont' know the full story behind who posts what, and so a bit of flexibility initially is important. Someone who has a pattern of repeatedly posting about recreational use or only wants info about the effects of drugs is going to be someone I just choose to not respond to.

Groovy I totally understand your frustration.
Michael, I hope you don't leave.
I think we can just chalk this up to the differences in style we all have.  I do believe our common goal is recovery.

love to all,
WW

[groovygirl]

why do people choose sides when something like this comes up?  it isn't high school or a popularity contest.

7477 - as far as your idiotic comments go, don't think you can come here for the first time and tell me to leave the forum.  it really isn't up to you.  if your dr. didn't tell you how to use your medication, then maybe you should switch drs.  also, i don't get high...i'm in recovery, so if your comment was directed to me you couldn't be more off base.

[OxyDout]

I swear to god if you leave, I'll, I'll..... huh, the internet what a wonderful thing.  

Guys, it it inevitable people will do things and or say things that you disagree with and just don't like, however, thats when you ignore it and move on.  

Mr.Michael, I have appreciated all posts you have contributed to this forum, you have been a pillar to the structure in which this place has been formed.  I to have wanted to not post here anymore and get very tired of it at times, but Ive learned to keep the door open just in case, but do me a favor and post atleast one more time, I would love to have your email address. I hope all is well.  

Groovy, I agree with MrMichael, HOWEVER, you have been a large part of my recovery, you showed me that I DON'T know everything and that I need to keep an open mind to different opinions, so I wouldn't want to see you get irritated at little things, you know?  I mean, I to knew when I saw your name you were going to say something about someone breaking a thread, its not worth it. I know your gonna get mad when you read this, but for what its worth, thank you for your help.

GWH

[trumpet69s]

No one posted an answer about the lady and her husband trying to get off pot.  I smoked pot from the time I was 12 to the age of 25.  I just quit and I did not have any withdrawl symptoms and I know many others who have done the same. Pot is not addictive like nicotine or opium.  It does not have any physical addictive chemicals just mental.  Tell your husband to grow up and stop being such a crab.

[groovygirl]

i was trying to do something for the good of the board.  you guys however, are writing only to give me a hard time.  i didn't set out to personally bash anyone, but i guess this has become a free-for-all.

i'm glad you feel that i have helped you.  i know you are probably mad at me because i have backed offj from corresponding with you so much - maybe i haven't been as responsive to you as you would have liked.  getting personal with people online can be tricky (and dangerous).  it sounds like i have offended you by doing that, so i'm sorry.  it's the reason why i never wanted to answer all of your questions or be too specific about personal things.  i'm sorry you feel abandoned or whatever.  what i have just said seems like the only logical explanation for your last post.  no one asked you if you agreed with michael, and no one wanted to turn this into a who's right and who's wrong battle.  maybe we should get back to the first post and try to help the woman whose husband is trying to quit pot huh?

i don't have much experience with quitting pot, so i left it to others more knowledgeable.

[lifeisbetter]

Mr. or Ms. Trumpet, I love you. Thanks for the reply. I knew somebody would eventually. Mamafeathers you too. Please bear with us addicts we tend to get our feathers ruffled at times. Get it Mamafeathers/ruffled. If at all possible stop the Vicodan now...if you only knew what you'd be avoiding.
Tex3 Hi sweety you ok?

everyone: seriously if you get a minute I NEED A PEP TALK!!! I can only take so much. Remind me why I'm doing this?

[groovygirl]

you're doing this because you KNOW life can be better - just like your name remember?  what's going on?  are you having a tough day?