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Need help getting off hydro
Hi, I'm looking for some advice. I've been abusing pain killers since I was 15...I'm 31 now. This has gotten way out of control. I take approximately 15-17 Lorcet Plus a day. I've tried detox, meetings, going cold turkey all with no luck. I would like to try methadone, but I live in a rural area and the closest clinic I can find is approximately 3 hours away. I cannot drive that far every day because I am a single mother with a full time job. Do you have any suggestions for me??
Savannah you've posted on a thread that is really old. Go to the top of the main screen and "post a question" so that you get the maximum response. A lot of people don't respond when they see the dates are so old.
I will tell you I detoxed 32 days ago off of hydro, they gave me energy, filled the boredom, helped my back pain and then somewhere along the way in the last year they no longer helped the pain, my energy was gone and because my body wanted a higher dosage I was in a constant state of low level withdrawal.
you are physically dependent on them - of that I am sure because that is how the pills get you and with parents that are/were addicts maybe you'll have bigger issues - maybe not. Why play russian roulette? If you are unsure stop taking them and see how your behavior changes, does the panic set in knowing you don't have them?
For me, I knew my body needed them, wanted more and I decided to stop. I was taking 3-4 10mg hydros per day and I went through 5 days of h#ll withdrawing from them - enough to make me never want to take a pain pill again. Take it from me and from the scores of other people here - the energy at some point will go away and you will become a slug and addicted. With opiates the body adjusts and over time you have to take more and more.
Please post a new question so others will join in and give you some support. Here you will find lots of people with all kinds of backgrounds and experience to give you support and advice. This board has been really helpful in my recovery.
I will tell you I detoxed 32 days ago off of hydro, they gave me energy, filled the boredom, helped my back pain and then somewhere along the way in the last year they no longer helped the pain, my energy was gone and because my body wanted a higher dosage I was in a constant state of low level withdrawal.
you are physically dependent on them - of that I am sure because that is how the pills get you and with parents that are/were addicts maybe you'll have bigger issues - maybe not. Why play russian roulette? If you are unsure stop taking them and see how your behavior changes, does the panic set in knowing you don't have them?
For me, I knew my body needed them, wanted more and I decided to stop. I was taking 3-4 10mg hydros per day and I went through 5 days of h#ll withdrawing from them - enough to make me never want to take a pain pill again. Take it from me and from the scores of other people here - the energy at some point will go away and you will become a slug and addicted. With opiates the body adjusts and over time you have to take more and more.
Please post a new question so others will join in and give you some support. Here you will find lots of people with all kinds of backgrounds and experience to give you support and advice. This board has been really helpful in my recovery.
hi so i have a question i have been reading and wondering can you tell me
how i can tell if i to have this addiction i take a 5 ml hidro twice a day when
i am working i have a very physicaly challenging job and it does give me energy but if i do not have em, by the way is rare but when i do not have them i am drained a lil and moddy but bieng bitchy is really who i am and if i am drained i can deal i just figure why b drained if i dont have to. i want to prove to myself that i am not an addict any advice. im telling myself that if i am asking the ? that i am but i also have a deep rooted fear that cums from having parents who r herion addicts so maybe i am paranoid idk.
how i can tell if i to have this addiction i take a 5 ml hidro twice a day when
i am working i have a very physicaly challenging job and it does give me energy but if i do not have em, by the way is rare but when i do not have them i am drained a lil and moddy but bieng bitchy is really who i am and if i am drained i can deal i just figure why b drained if i dont have to. i want to prove to myself that i am not an addict any advice. im telling myself that if i am asking the ? that i am but i also have a deep rooted fear that cums from having parents who r herion addicts so maybe i am paranoid idk.
You would fair better starting your own thread with your question..This one is very old and alot of people spot the date and sometimes pass over it just for that reason. Its a common occurence in here when people find the forum, then something they can relate to ,but don't notice the thread is like 10 years old as this one almost is.
Hit the "post a question" link on the top of the main forum page..You'll get alot of advice quicker that way...And no, you don't want to go the methadone route for these kinds of pills. These are aspirins compared to lorcet. Doing a taper would help some but most can't control that..Your stomach problems could be associated with wd's starting inbetween doses. Sounds like its time to quit..Post your own question though...
Hit the "post a question" link on the top of the main forum page..You'll get alot of advice quicker that way...And no, you don't want to go the methadone route for these kinds of pills. These are aspirins compared to lorcet. Doing a taper would help some but most can't control that..Your stomach problems could be associated with wd's starting inbetween doses. Sounds like its time to quit..Post your own question though...
I have been using lorcet for the past 11 yrs, not straight through but on and off for 11yrs. I take 4 lorcet a day usually in the am. I have been having trouble with stomach cramps and loose stools that have a green coloration and are not formed. I want to stop so I need advice on how to stop or taper off, I only have access for klonopin 1mg (60) per month. any advice is a god sent. I recently had my heart checked out becasue I have developed an arrhythmia. I was give an 3D echo and wore a eart montor for 6weeks and they could not find any heart damage and said I was in good health. My stomach cramps sometimes so I feel as if my stomach lining has been damaged, but I have no blood in my stool, no nausea, no vomiting, but I do have reflux wich I take pepcid 300mg twice add and it helps. i don't think I am an addict to the point of needing methadone or a 30day detox, but i feel i can do it on my own since my usuage daily is so low. Any help wold be welcomed>
Ive been hooked on Norco for 3 years now its been really bad this past year 20 or more a day for over a year.I lost my scripts and only now realize how bad I am addicted to these pills.Ive been doing well tappering 4 a day for a week.But I know this wont last forever and it will gradually go back up.I dont want to do methadone b/c to me no offense to anyone its the same thing(eventually you'll w/d from that too).So does anyone know of something to get you off pills w/o having to use opiates I think actually I know Ive been taking them to long and my w/d is brutal and I have a family to support I cant afford to be sick for days probably even weeks and when Im sick Im pretty much worthless.So please if any1 knows how to help I would really appreciate it. I need my life back !!
Yes, I did see the recipe. Thomas seems like a really cool person. Love his attitude! I wondered about the "next step". In the initial phase of seeing that you really are going to make it out alive -- you're all gung ho and you just know that you'll never have to go thru that again. What's really hard is afterwards. THE LONG HAUL. Staying away. For me, I think that's even scarier and I really think that that is where you must have a good safety net.Thank you for your comments, and I just want to say that everybody here seems like they are very caring. It seems like even though we're all going thru the same bad stuff, there is a positive on the other side AND that underneath it all, I think, that we are all stronger than we give ourselves credit for being. Take care.
Hi Moo, I know what you mean about the hydros.....you want to get off...Thomas has the Withdrawal from hydros recipe..have you ever considered what to do after you are off the pills? like a 12 step program of some sort? anyway,,,,we are all here for you...please, take what you read here and run with it...this is the best little forum in town....and we are all here to help each other Luck and love to you cindi
Bless your little heart for responding to my post. Isn't it amazing how something as simple as responding to someone (even someone you don't know) can help them to feel that they really aren't alone. Sending big smiles your way. Thank you.
Welcome...you'll find plenty of great information on handling tapering & withdrawal from folks here who have done it successfully, with lots of helpful ideas for making the experience as tolerable as possible. They know far more than I do about opiate w/d, but I add my two cents here because like you I live alone, and I know that in itself can add to the challenges you face. So if you need a cyber-ear, I'm here. -- Milo
I stumbled on this site this evening while looking for what the symptoms for withdrawing from hydrocodone would be. When I wasn't having migraines, I found I rather enjoyed the buzz from hydro. Long story short, I couldn't imagine going thru my extremely boring existence without it(strictly for the pleasureable feelings it gave). My life basically consists of getting up, going to work, coming home and taking care of my four legged kids(the two legged ones are on their own now), going to bed and repeating this over and over. But anyway, I envy some of you in that you have a partner or at least someone to help you get thru this. On the other hand, my story sounds like one big whine compared to others that have posted. I enjoy the hydro WAY TOO MUCH and now its controlling me and it's scaring the **** out of me. My psychiatrist has me weaning off and has already told me he thinks I should go into the hospital. It's out of the question. I live alone and I have to go to work to pay the bills. I hope that I can pull this off. I just wish I had support. My kids don't know about it and besides, they live in other states. I am just so scared that I can't do it alone. Its not the physical aspect, its the pyschological part that terrifies me. I congratulate all of you who have quit and those of you who are making progress toward quitting. Especially you, Thomas. Comparitively speaking, mine should be a piece of cake, but I am SO SCARED that I can't do it.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks for listening.
Hi Goldfish - you will not come right until you replace all the zinc/mag you have leached out of your body over the past few years - this is what 'hanging out' really is - it's your body craving zinc/mag (zinc stops cravings/magnesium stops depression). If you don't do this it will take up to 2 years to return to normal as the only other source your body has for zinc/mag is food and then it is in such tiny amounts it takes years to build up again. If you get a blood test done you will find your levels of both are way down on what they should be.
A typical tablet contains somthing like this:
Zinc amino acid chelate 75mg
Magnesium amino acis chelate 37.5mg
Vitamin B6 10mg
Manganese amino acid chelate 10mg
Viatmin A (1000I.U.) 300mcg
Grading your habit on a scale of 1-10 (1 being occasional use and 10 being long term methadone at 100 plus mg's a day) you should take the following amount for a period of one month then slowly reduce to a daily amount of 2-3 per day.
Habit scale/size - Number of tablets per day for a month
10 10
9 9
8 8
7 7
6 6
5 5
4 4
3 3
2 3
1 2
0 2
You will notice that I recommend you never go below 2 per day. This is because zinc/mag depletion was your original problem so you should give yourself an ongoing supplement to make sure it does not happen again. I now take 2-3 per day to maintain my health. I have had no failures with this treatment (everyone OK after less than a month) and have treated addictions (including my own) as varied as methadone and cigarettes. The cigarrete smoker reduced from 2 packs per day to just 5 cigarettes per day in a week without any discomfort. If you suffer any kind of 'hang out' just increase the zinc/mag dosage and give it a liitle longer to take effect (a week or so). Don't beleive all the bullshit about drug addiction you have heard - it's all **** - this is the real deal. The drugs themselves are not actually addictive but they do leach all the zinc/mag out of your body by increasing the metabolism of them creating a shortage that gets worse the longer you use unless you replace them while you are using in which case you don't hang out when you stop - you just come straight - this is true beleive me I have tried it as have a few other people I know and none of us sufferred any hang out when we stopped.
A typical tablet contains somthing like this:
Zinc amino acid chelate 75mg
Magnesium amino acis chelate 37.5mg
Vitamin B6 10mg
Manganese amino acid chelate 10mg
Viatmin A (1000I.U.) 300mcg
Grading your habit on a scale of 1-10 (1 being occasional use and 10 being long term methadone at 100 plus mg's a day) you should take the following amount for a period of one month then slowly reduce to a daily amount of 2-3 per day.
Habit scale/size - Number of tablets per day for a month
10 10
9 9
8 8
7 7
6 6
5 5
4 4
3 3
2 3
1 2
0 2
You will notice that I recommend you never go below 2 per day. This is because zinc/mag depletion was your original problem so you should give yourself an ongoing supplement to make sure it does not happen again. I now take 2-3 per day to maintain my health. I have had no failures with this treatment (everyone OK after less than a month) and have treated addictions (including my own) as varied as methadone and cigarettes. The cigarrete smoker reduced from 2 packs per day to just 5 cigarettes per day in a week without any discomfort. If you suffer any kind of 'hang out' just increase the zinc/mag dosage and give it a liitle longer to take effect (a week or so). Don't beleive all the bullshit about drug addiction you have heard - it's all **** - this is the real deal. The drugs themselves are not actually addictive but they do leach all the zinc/mag out of your body by increasing the metabolism of them creating a shortage that gets worse the longer you use unless you replace them while you are using in which case you don't hang out when you stop - you just come straight - this is true beleive me I have tried it as have a few other people I know and none of us sufferred any hang out when we stopped.
Hi Pam,, I have been thinking alot about you, the tyrosine never caused me to get an upset stomach and I think it was thomas or spook said it should not cause nausea....but truly, anything can mess with your stomach...I am glad you are doing ok and still with us...like I said in the post above somewhere....someday we will all be ok...one day at a time....Love ya cin
Thomas,
Please read the previous message I wrote that included your name. I really want to take the L-Tyrosine but, I'm confused if the stomachache is from it or the withdrawals (or both, probably) - just wondered if you had any experience. Thanks.
Also, did you find that drinking a lot of water helped you?
whitedove
Pam
Please read the previous message I wrote that included your name. I really want to take the L-Tyrosine but, I'm confused if the stomachache is from it or the withdrawals (or both, probably) - just wondered if you had any experience. Thanks.
Also, did you find that drinking a lot of water helped you?
whitedove
Pam
Well, today, I'm down to 6.5 tablets of hydrocodone per day (and will do this for 3 days, then drop to 6, etc.) I just dont know when he'll stop them completely and that makes me panic which doesn't help when you have panic disorder; It's still a struggle but if you've read my other messages, you know this is the only way I can do it, at this point. As I spread my doses apart, my headaches and fibromyalgia really get going but ...........I'm an addict and, I can't keep on like I was going. So, I want to thank everyone for their continued support because, this is the 1st place I come each and every morning before I begin my day. I am always eager to hear any responses and help where I can.
THOMAS, I have a question about the L-Tyrosine. Does it upset your stomach at 1st? I find that I'm getting real stomaches with it. OR, maybe it's just coincidental. I don't know. Anyway, just wanted your thoughts.
I see my psychiatrist in 1/2 hr. He was the one that was about to let me go cold turkey, when he found out I went to the hospital. I need to smooth things over, even though I feel he's wrong. Every pt. is entitled to a 2nd opinion. I believe he is just very frustrated with me and I can surely understand that. But anyway, think good thoughts for me. I do so want off this medication from "hell". After that, I'll have to find a way to deal with the pain in a non-narcotic way and maybe a different psychiatrist too. As painful as it can be sometimes, that's all an addict can do. I now know that.
Thanks everybody.
whitedove
Pam
THOMAS, I have a question about the L-Tyrosine. Does it upset your stomach at 1st? I find that I'm getting real stomaches with it. OR, maybe it's just coincidental. I don't know. Anyway, just wanted your thoughts.
I see my psychiatrist in 1/2 hr. He was the one that was about to let me go cold turkey, when he found out I went to the hospital. I need to smooth things over, even though I feel he's wrong. Every pt. is entitled to a 2nd opinion. I believe he is just very frustrated with me and I can surely understand that. But anyway, think good thoughts for me. I do so want off this medication from "hell". After that, I'll have to find a way to deal with the pain in a non-narcotic way and maybe a different psychiatrist too. As painful as it can be sometimes, that's all an addict can do. I now know that.
Thanks everybody.
whitedove
Pam
I was diagnosed w/multiple sclerosis in 1991. I began taking four Lorcet daily for leg pain from ms. Before long this increased to four Lorcet Plus daily. Several months later this led to four Lorcet 10/650 daily. Then I began taking extra ones daily and running out early. This led to several days of torture. Eventually my family Dr. increased my dosage to ten Lorcet 10/650 daily to prevent my running out early. In the mean time, this same Dr. began prescribing four Soma and two Elavil 150 tablets daily for me. Then the Lorcet 10/650 tabs worked less and less. I talked my neuroligist into giving me a script for the Lorcet 10/650 tabs at ten daily after telling him my family Dr. wanted him to start prescribing all of my meds. All the while I was getting scripts from my family Dr. This situation finally led to me being confronted by several of my closest friends about my problem. My wife knew there was a serious problem, but she never knew exactly how much meds I was actually taking. She knew nothing of the double scripts. By April 1998 I was up to twenty Lorcet 10/650 daily, in addition to the Soma and Elavil. On April 8, 1998 I ran out of both Lorcet 10/650 scripts five days before I could get either one refilled. After five days I was too sick to have anything refilled so I did the whole deal cold turkey. I survived by taking an Elavil every time I woke up and trying to stay asleep all of the time. I took Imodium tablets for about two months afterwards for the toilet problem that comes w/withdrawal. After three weeks I felt the best I had felt in several years, and I felt even beter in a few more weeks. I learned to live w/my leg pain which is nothing compared to med. problems. My wonderful family and friends stuck with me through it all. Now, it comes up every once in a while in a joke about my not remembering something that happened in '97 or '98 but many people know I had the problem, I faced it, and I WON. I was determined not to have to go in a hospital, which would have meant admitting there was a problem, which I now admit to without hesitation. The point to this is....It Can Be Beaten with determination, lots of love, and GOD.
God bless you hon, my prayers are with you...I can't believe that about a hospital...never mind yes I can i worked in one I rememeber we had a heroin addict come in one time and he was going to start withdrawals it was me that INSISTED on giving him methadone..it was like pulling teeth and then they gave him like 10 mgs or something every 4 hours,....what a joke these places are. I told you about the fibromyalgia,, i am building up a tolerance to the vics and norco.....with my next script i am getting i am going to wean my self off ....I am in alot of pain but i can't keep increasing the doseage.....she may just go ahead and change my meds as it is,,,,I don't know....but i know i can't just quit..my friend's hubby has been on percs for awhile and didn't know if he stopped he would withdrawal he has never had to take narcs....he was totally miserable...anyway....strength and peace to you you can do this......read your Big Book,,have faith and this too shall pass.. love to all cin
Everyone and especially Jenny (today),
The hospital did kick me out and tell me, they could do nothing different for me than the Dr. is already doing, which is slow, slow taper. I go down .5 every 3 days. Today, I start 7 pills. I take 4 xanax also, which my husband gives me. I originally didn't abuse the xanax, because I really used them for panic but, when I started to panic because less of the Lortab, I used more xanax.
Anyway, in summary, the psychiatrist in the hospital said that the only way to safely go off the "Hollywood Drug" (he called it), is to taper like I am or switch to another opiate based drug and withdraw faster. He followed up by saying, if I had the Hollywood money, I could afford to do the "rapid opiate detox" which I've read about on lne. It sounds marverlous. Once you're detoxed, six hours later, you start your program of choice, be it NA/AA, website, other support groups (i.e. 12 step), etc. He tried getting me released to a pain center and they wouldn't do that, so they releasedd me, doing the same frustrating taper method andd no additional support. The Dr. in the hospital actually thought I would be better on methadone. He said it was easier to get off of than what I was on. I can't believe it. What do you know? I probably should go back and read the section on methadone.
At this point, I'm having trouble just accepting what the hospital did/didn't do.
I'd have to self refer to a methadone clinic. AND, I know what you mean about paying what it takes. This is a relapse for me. As unfortunate as it is, I was better off when they withdrew me from 24 tablets of codeine a day, in the hospital. I was out 7 days later, no pain, really happy and at peace. Now, I did end up with an $11,000 bill but, they reduced it, due to the insurance not paying and, I only ended up paying something like $2,000. I was blessed. We'll see what happens this time.
I long for the clean and sober feeling with rosy cheeks, etc. I remember being there before and I'm determined. So, if I have to take it one day at a time and currently, tapering is the only option I've got, then so be it. I'm going to do it right, not beg for more, frustrate my husband, etc. etc. HE NEEDS A BREAK TOO! I've begun a more intense study of the big book and it's helping (AA book, P. 14, 64 - 66 so far) and I've taking notes, listing my frustrations in writing. As they say, the program works if you work it!! Right everyone!!?
I'm not as strong as a few of you that have gone cold turkey. But, as they say, different strokes for different folks. I have 4 children and must maintain a part time job so, I think this will work.
Please help pray for me. Everyone is so helpful on this site. I feel as though I was led here and it is here that, I start each morning.
Thanks to everyone!! AND, I pray that anyone who needs help, uses their chosen "higher power", keeps talking to your higher power, friends, friends on this site, tapers off the meds and follows or at least tries the method Thomas recommends for ENERGY, if nothing else. My general Dr. thought the method sounded great, but that a good multi-vitamin may have enough of the B6. He suggested to just look at each multi-vitamin formula and see. That's what I'm trying, because my energy level is zapped, but now that I'm taking less Lortab, I feel less witdrawal symptoms, am sleeping better and having less cravings ,etc. Perhaps, I'm on way..........one day a time.
With all my thoughts and blessings for everyone,
whitedove
Pam
The hospital did kick me out and tell me, they could do nothing different for me than the Dr. is already doing, which is slow, slow taper. I go down .5 every 3 days. Today, I start 7 pills. I take 4 xanax also, which my husband gives me. I originally didn't abuse the xanax, because I really used them for panic but, when I started to panic because less of the Lortab, I used more xanax.
Anyway, in summary, the psychiatrist in the hospital said that the only way to safely go off the "Hollywood Drug" (he called it), is to taper like I am or switch to another opiate based drug and withdraw faster. He followed up by saying, if I had the Hollywood money, I could afford to do the "rapid opiate detox" which I've read about on lne. It sounds marverlous. Once you're detoxed, six hours later, you start your program of choice, be it NA/AA, website, other support groups (i.e. 12 step), etc. He tried getting me released to a pain center and they wouldn't do that, so they releasedd me, doing the same frustrating taper method andd no additional support. The Dr. in the hospital actually thought I would be better on methadone. He said it was easier to get off of than what I was on. I can't believe it. What do you know? I probably should go back and read the section on methadone.
At this point, I'm having trouble just accepting what the hospital did/didn't do.
I'd have to self refer to a methadone clinic. AND, I know what you mean about paying what it takes. This is a relapse for me. As unfortunate as it is, I was better off when they withdrew me from 24 tablets of codeine a day, in the hospital. I was out 7 days later, no pain, really happy and at peace. Now, I did end up with an $11,000 bill but, they reduced it, due to the insurance not paying and, I only ended up paying something like $2,000. I was blessed. We'll see what happens this time.
I long for the clean and sober feeling with rosy cheeks, etc. I remember being there before and I'm determined. So, if I have to take it one day at a time and currently, tapering is the only option I've got, then so be it. I'm going to do it right, not beg for more, frustrate my husband, etc. etc. HE NEEDS A BREAK TOO! I've begun a more intense study of the big book and it's helping (AA book, P. 14, 64 - 66 so far) and I've taking notes, listing my frustrations in writing. As they say, the program works if you work it!! Right everyone!!?
I'm not as strong as a few of you that have gone cold turkey. But, as they say, different strokes for different folks. I have 4 children and must maintain a part time job so, I think this will work.
Please help pray for me. Everyone is so helpful on this site. I feel as though I was led here and it is here that, I start each morning.
Thanks to everyone!! AND, I pray that anyone who needs help, uses their chosen "higher power", keeps talking to your higher power, friends, friends on this site, tapers off the meds and follows or at least tries the method Thomas recommends for ENERGY, if nothing else. My general Dr. thought the method sounded great, but that a good multi-vitamin may have enough of the B6. He suggested to just look at each multi-vitamin formula and see. That's what I'm trying, because my energy level is zapped, but now that I'm taking less Lortab, I feel less witdrawal symptoms, am sleeping better and having less cravings ,etc. Perhaps, I'm on way..........one day a time.
With all my thoughts and blessings for everyone,
whitedove
Pam
WOW, that's bull **** Re; the hospital...I gotta get to work but my thoughts and prayers are with you Love to all cin
I haven't posted to you previously, but i wanted to lend you a word of support and i hope that things will start to improve for you soon.
Insurance sucks sometimes, but sometimes they pull through for you even though they say they won't. I entered my husband into an expensive 28-day rehab program, and it cost $17,000. My insurance said he no longer needed to be there after about 6-8 days into the program. I pleaded with them and told them that it was a life or death issue with him, and that he had to stay there no matter what. I set up a payment plan with the rehab, and was all set to pay out of pocket if necessary (payments for the rest of our lives). Well you know what, after repeated threats from the insurance company, endless letters saying it was necessary, they paid all 80% of it!!!! I had to lay out the $3,200 upon dropping him off. I gave them assorted credit cards and ended up maxing them all out!
Good luck, and I hope that there is a reasonable solution out there somewhere for you. In the mean time, if you can, keep trying to taper. Maybe give some of that zinc/magnesium a try, what the heck it can't hurt, that's if you can get them down at this point, i know the tummy feels mighty nasty while detoxing.
Hang in there girl, and know that it is so worth it. The depression will come to a good end down the road not too far ahead. That is wonderful that you have a supportive husband who is trying to help.
I have a full-blown addictive husband, and i use to numb the pain i feel being with him. I don't know how i'm going do it, but i'm gonna give them one hell of a fight!
Hang in there, we're all here for you!
Lv Jenny
Insurance sucks sometimes, but sometimes they pull through for you even though they say they won't. I entered my husband into an expensive 28-day rehab program, and it cost $17,000. My insurance said he no longer needed to be there after about 6-8 days into the program. I pleaded with them and told them that it was a life or death issue with him, and that he had to stay there no matter what. I set up a payment plan with the rehab, and was all set to pay out of pocket if necessary (payments for the rest of our lives). Well you know what, after repeated threats from the insurance company, endless letters saying it was necessary, they paid all 80% of it!!!! I had to lay out the $3,200 upon dropping him off. I gave them assorted credit cards and ended up maxing them all out!
Good luck, and I hope that there is a reasonable solution out there somewhere for you. In the mean time, if you can, keep trying to taper. Maybe give some of that zinc/magnesium a try, what the heck it can't hurt, that's if you can get them down at this point, i know the tummy feels mighty nasty while detoxing.
Hang in there girl, and know that it is so worth it. The depression will come to a good end down the road not too far ahead. That is wonderful that you have a supportive husband who is trying to help.
I have a full-blown addictive husband, and i use to numb the pain i feel being with him. I don't know how i'm going do it, but i'm gonna give them one hell of a fight!
Hang in there, we're all here for you!
Lv Jenny
Well, I went into the hospital for 2 days and they discharged me with the same medication, saying they could not withdraw me safely. They felt that my existing psychiatrist was doing it a very safe and effective way, even thought it many take months.
OH MY GOD!!! I could not believe it. The hospital was horrible, the news was not what I wanted to hear and then when they called the psychiatrist that had been treating me about my admission, etc., he said he "wanted to wash his hands of me"!!!
Well, through many tears and pleading, he took me back with the same process of tapering down every 3 days.
I'm onward to an AA meeting which I desperately need with my sponsor, but I'll tell you more tomorrow because what I learned about this drug was absolutely mind-boggling!!! The Dr. there called it the "Hollywood Drug" and said that it is the absolute, hardest prescription drug to get off of. He wanted to send me to a pain clinic that would change the opiate based drug and hopefully be able to taper easier and faster. He said there was just no other way to do it than cold turkey like a lot of you have. He said I would feel like I was dying and as I awaited them to give me my dosages, many times, I began feeling like that so I got a small taste.
Anyway, I'll write more tomorrow a.m. Thanks everybody for your thoughts and prayers and I'm right back with you, needing you support.
Talk to you tomorrow.
whitedove
Pam
OH MY GOD!!! I could not believe it. The hospital was horrible, the news was not what I wanted to hear and then when they called the psychiatrist that had been treating me about my admission, etc., he said he "wanted to wash his hands of me"!!!
Well, through many tears and pleading, he took me back with the same process of tapering down every 3 days.
I'm onward to an AA meeting which I desperately need with my sponsor, but I'll tell you more tomorrow because what I learned about this drug was absolutely mind-boggling!!! The Dr. there called it the "Hollywood Drug" and said that it is the absolute, hardest prescription drug to get off of. He wanted to send me to a pain clinic that would change the opiate based drug and hopefully be able to taper easier and faster. He said there was just no other way to do it than cold turkey like a lot of you have. He said I would feel like I was dying and as I awaited them to give me my dosages, many times, I began feeling like that so I got a small taste.
Anyway, I'll write more tomorrow a.m. Thanks everybody for your thoughts and prayers and I'm right back with you, needing you support.
Talk to you tomorrow.
whitedove
Pam
As Cin said: Godspeed to you Whitedove. I will pray very hard for you. This is the first step of the rest of your life. We WILL be here waiting for you and rooting for you. You have a big corner here with us all in it on your side. God Bless You and your family.
Power & Magick 2 U,
Peace and Light on us al,
Love Wizard
Power & Magick 2 U,
Peace and Light on us al,
Love Wizard
You do whatever makes you more comfortable,,,if you are tired of the tapering and want to get through this then do the detox inpatient.....if you feel you can handle it then continue the taper routine but change the dose schedule....either way, the decision must be yours, not your sponsors,,No offense to her but,,,she would do what is more comfortable for her...she is there for suggestions, advice...these decisions re: your treatment should and can be up to you...(my opinion only) either way we are here for you you have my e-mail addy,,and you have us, on the forum,,,,keep me posted Love to all cin
Cindi:
Thank you so much for your quick response. Would you believe I'm still wrestling with the insurance issue? I'm awaiting a call from the therapist on the Addiction Recovery Unit now. She thinks they don't have a psychiatrist on call until tommorrow a.m. so, she's checking another hospital. I really don't want to go to another hospital but if I can go earlier, the earlier the better, I guess. Why wait?
My sponsor thinks I need to "white knuckle" it a little more. I don't know. Maybe that's true. Perhaps, the real affects of having such a a lower dosage have really hit. What do you think?
I'll let you know more soon because I expect to hear within the 1/2 hour. Thanks again.
whitedove
Pam
Thank you so much for your quick response. Would you believe I'm still wrestling with the insurance issue? I'm awaiting a call from the therapist on the Addiction Recovery Unit now. She thinks they don't have a psychiatrist on call until tommorrow a.m. so, she's checking another hospital. I really don't want to go to another hospital but if I can go earlier, the earlier the better, I guess. Why wait?
My sponsor thinks I need to "white knuckle" it a little more. I don't know. Maybe that's true. Perhaps, the real affects of having such a a lower dosage have really hit. What do you think?
I'll let you know more soon because I expect to hear within the 1/2 hour. Thanks again.
whitedove
Pam
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