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Oxycontin Withdrawels
Does anyone have any answers to how to better come off of Oxys? I am on my third day of tapering off from 120mg a day to today of 5 mg. I have no energy, and have read to take lots of vitamins, which do not seem to be helping. Its the New Year and was hoping to have this habit kicked. I've got three beautiful children who want their Mom back and I can hardly get out of bed.
as i posted last week, i began my detox from oxy's taking my last two 10 mgs. on thursday morning. i had valium to help with the aches, i took ALOT of EPSOM SALT BATHS - 2 full cups, drank alot of o.j. and took syberian ginsing for energy and feel great, besides a few tears from out of no-where and a few bitchy outbursts but really i'm always like that.
what i don't understand, is that i posted, does anyone have any additional info i could use for the detox, and NO ONE wrote back, also wrote i didn't know the thommas's recipe and could find it. i think you need to want to do this and you will, as far as this site, i think it has more to do with feeling osrry for yourselves than being positive; i ran 2 miles yesterday and haven't run in 2 years. quit whining and just ******* do it; as for this site, i will not return; and thanks for the NO advice, assholes.
what i don't understand, is that i posted, does anyone have any additional info i could use for the detox, and NO ONE wrote back, also wrote i didn't know the thommas's recipe and could find it. i think you need to want to do this and you will, as far as this site, i think it has more to do with feeling osrry for yourselves than being positive; i ran 2 miles yesterday and haven't run in 2 years. quit whining and just ******* do it; as for this site, i will not return; and thanks for the NO advice, assholes.
I've been thinking all day. You are right. The longer I stay on the meds, the longer my body will continue to need them and not heal on it's own. I will call my doc on Monday about getting the percs. I will continue to read all that is on this forum, b/c I've have learned a ton in just two short days.
The way I look at it, a lot of other people are living w/ pain worse than mine (probely you for one) - & they are finding ways to manage it. I'm pretty stubborn, so if I put my mind to something, I usually can do it. I need to continue to learn all the facts. I will stay in touch when I hear back from my doc.
Please look for my post in a few days. You have been a true blessing.
Thankz...... Ra
The way I look at it, a lot of other people are living w/ pain worse than mine (probely you for one) - & they are finding ways to manage it. I'm pretty stubborn, so if I put my mind to something, I usually can do it. I need to continue to learn all the facts. I will stay in touch when I hear back from my doc.
Please look for my post in a few days. You have been a true blessing.
Thankz...... Ra
Morning.
Most of the Thomas Recipe is "natural", so no problem not wanting to do the valium; but the rest of the ingredients and directions I would follow.
The L-Tyrosine is a naturally occuring amino acid, that actually is very similar to our body's own painkiller, dopamine.
Remember, while you have been injesting the synthetic pain killers, your body has essentially stopped producing its own painkillers; so the Tyrosine in combo with vit. B-6(for absorption) can be a huge benefit.
I swear by it!!!!
As far as the pain meds, coming off oxycontin is more painful and dragged out than regular oxycodone or hydrocodone; that's why i wanted you to see about switching.
If you told your doc., you needed some (ie 5mg percocet) breakthrough meds for really bad pain days, he probably wouldn't bat an eye.
Then we could taper you down with those; like 4-5/day for a few days, then 3/day for a few, etc. all the way down to zero, and get you going on the L-Tyrosine/B-6, and you should dramatically have reduced the w/d's.
The back pain part I know all to well(L5-S1 surgeries), but you really have to be honest with yourself about this one. Your tolerance will continue to build, and you will require more and more, ultimately sucking everything you have out of you.
Millions and millions of people live with terrible pain and without narcotics. I will not try to convince you one way or the other, I can only pass on my experience....
Percs
Most of the Thomas Recipe is "natural", so no problem not wanting to do the valium; but the rest of the ingredients and directions I would follow.
The L-Tyrosine is a naturally occuring amino acid, that actually is very similar to our body's own painkiller, dopamine.
Remember, while you have been injesting the synthetic pain killers, your body has essentially stopped producing its own painkillers; so the Tyrosine in combo with vit. B-6(for absorption) can be a huge benefit.
I swear by it!!!!
As far as the pain meds, coming off oxycontin is more painful and dragged out than regular oxycodone or hydrocodone; that's why i wanted you to see about switching.
If you told your doc., you needed some (ie 5mg percocet) breakthrough meds for really bad pain days, he probably wouldn't bat an eye.
Then we could taper you down with those; like 4-5/day for a few days, then 3/day for a few, etc. all the way down to zero, and get you going on the L-Tyrosine/B-6, and you should dramatically have reduced the w/d's.
The back pain part I know all to well(L5-S1 surgeries), but you really have to be honest with yourself about this one. Your tolerance will continue to build, and you will require more and more, ultimately sucking everything you have out of you.
Millions and millions of people live with terrible pain and without narcotics. I will not try to convince you one way or the other, I can only pass on my experience....
Percs
Thanks so much for the post. I'm some what relieved to hear that my case is on the milder side. Thank you for the recipe, but I think I need to do this cold turkey. I've never taken a valium in my life & I'm afraid too start now. This script that the doc just wrote me is for about 90 pills, would it be better to switch to 10mg oxy then to a 5mg then nothing? I am afraid of how I will manage my back pain w/out pain meds. The really wierd thing is that all this time, I've been working, taking care of the house / kids - I really didn't think there was anything wrong. If I didn't run out of the pills and go thru 2 days of hell - that magically went away after I took the oxy, I would still be in the dark. Right now, I exercise faithfully 3 days a week to help manage the back pain, so I'm not sure what will happen when I stop all together. I have a good doc, but I'm afraid to call him after he just wrote this big script for me and tell him I need another w/ a lesser dosage. I guess I don't want him to know.
What does the L-Tyrosine do for you? If I go down to 5mg, will I still need to go thru al this?
You have been so helpful, thank you, Oxic.
What does the L-Tyrosine do for you? If I go down to 5mg, will I still need to go thru al this?
You have been so helpful, thank you, Oxic.
Hi again, it's percs here(oxic is my home handle).
So today is your first day at 20mgs right?
I would stay at this doseage for about five or so days, until your body stabilizes. Now you probably know that oxycontin is time released/long acting, so if you have a doctor that will work with you(which it sounds like you do), i would try to switch to a faster acting med, like percocet 5mg or if you want a lit'l less strong med, vicoden.
I'm just suggesting this to try and "let you down" easier.
There are several ways to get off these; and the really good news is you are at a relatively low doseage. You could even cold turkey at this level, but why suffer unnecessarily.....especially with lit'l ones to tend to.
Also there is a recipe that one of "veterans" has formulated, that has helped a ton of people. It is really terrific for the lethargy and general brain-fog you will probably experience once you are off. THOMAS RECIPE
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
I can assure you, we all have that paralyzing fear at times, but I want you to know, the fear is USUALLY worse than the actual experience.
Any questions, post away.
percs
So today is your first day at 20mgs right?
I would stay at this doseage for about five or so days, until your body stabilizes. Now you probably know that oxycontin is time released/long acting, so if you have a doctor that will work with you(which it sounds like you do), i would try to switch to a faster acting med, like percocet 5mg or if you want a lit'l less strong med, vicoden.
I'm just suggesting this to try and "let you down" easier.
There are several ways to get off these; and the really good news is you are at a relatively low doseage. You could even cold turkey at this level, but why suffer unnecessarily.....especially with lit'l ones to tend to.
Also there is a recipe that one of "veterans" has formulated, that has helped a ton of people. It is really terrific for the lethargy and general brain-fog you will probably experience once you are off. THOMAS RECIPE
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
I can assure you, we all have that paralyzing fear at times, but I want you to know, the fear is USUALLY worse than the actual experience.
Any questions, post away.
percs
I'm new at this, so I'm sure I'm not explaining this right. I was taking one pill, 40mg, for about 6mos, I asked my doc to cut me down to 20mg, just b/c I thought I could - not b/c I thought I was addicted. please advise.
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