pain

[kiran naz]

please answer my question i am a smoker and am suffering from phlemgh (mucus) in my lungs this only happens in the morning after i wake up, there is a shooting pain at the back of my head, shoulder blades, and lower back, these were the early symptoms, now the pain has gone to my knees, i am in great pain and the doctors don't know what it is , my blood tests are clear,

please diognose my problem as i really want to find out

[PS >>>>Annie]

I have another post for you under MANAGING PAIN WHEN ADDICTION HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.  Help!  lol

annie

[PS >>>>Annie]

I have another post for you under MANAGING PAIN WHEN ADDICTION HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.  Help!  lol

annie

[PS >>>>Annie]

Man.....Your awesome!.....I was really kidding.  I hate to ask you to do something like that.  If anything, it would be wonderful to see how this work of art unfolds.  I have stated strong points from my arguement throughout this forum.  All with meaning, fact, and passion.  Give me some time to get it all summed up.  This may take some time, cause I'm back to the grind again.  I also want to do some research on the internet...just to see where the best outlet might be.  
Also, I'll need to prepare myself....If this thing takes wings and flies...I'll need to get pass my shyness.  lol  Me shy??? Yep, you bet.  You wouldn't know it from my postings.  This has a way of working itself out though....when you have passion and purpose toward something.  HUM....I wonder if we could tie addiction treatments in there somewhere??? Ya know, since chronic pain patients do have to deal w/ this.  Now I'm just rambling away.....Oh think of the possibilities: of what a story like this could do???  I bet we could stir up a mess. lol  Think of the people that would come to the fore-front.  The more the merrier.....Hey maybe we could send this to congress, or to all our reps.  Let me know what you think.
Love ya!

Annie

[spook]

Hydrocodone and Addiction [posted 8/14/98]

I was prescribed Hycodan

[Thomas02]

annie,
send me a rough draft or at last an outline of the points you want to make in your article/letter/essay. Define the audience (and where you think it might be puslished) and give me an estimate of how many words it needs to be. I would be glad to edit it and shape it for you, but the story and, more importantly, the passion or indignation behind the story has to come from you. I can structure it, trimming any fat and sharpeing its focus. We can also employ a few profesional writer's tricks to make it "punch" where it has to. If you have the goods, i.e., substantiating facts that stand srutiny, and the power of rightousness and indignation on you side, and we have a clear picture of who the audience is and how much room we have in the proposed pulication, we should be able to make a powerful statement that will not be easly dimissed. Give me the raw material; I will apply what I know about doing pursuasive writing to your message. We do it right - they won't know what hit them!! Remember: power, economy, truth and passion are what makes for powerful writing. Good luck,annie, my friend.

***@****

[cindi]

Thanks Annie,  hope you're feeling better  Love ya  cindi

[PS >>>>Annie]

Cindi,

This will be frustrating, but give it a try.  Get copies (in hand) of all your records.  Make an appointment w/ another doctor.  Bring all these records.  Meanwhile, email ***@**** w/ your total story.  Make sure you don't leave out any details...ya know about these phobic doc's.  Then email the same story to ***@****.,AND send all local zip codes surrounding you.  Make sure you emphasize your condition and all the problems you've had, and possibly your husband, has had w/ doctors and their lack of compassion where you live.  We need to get the word out and pull out all of the stops.  If any thing you will get hooked up w/ a real doctor for the next time your in need, because you will probably be healed from the problems you have at present.  Another thing....log on to MED-Help.com (a different site than this one) and search for a doctor in your state....especially for your back.  You may need this in the future.  

I have found some great information from these sites.  I thought that I was living in the drug desert, but not so.  Those doctors are out there.  You just have to find them.  Hope you feel better soon.  I FEEL YOUR FRUSTRATION.....BIG TIME!

lOVE yA!
ANNIE

PS...If things don't turn out well for me .....I will email my story to all the major news stations(sometime in the near future).  I want the inhumane side to "The War on Drugs" to be shown.  If only I could get Tom/patrick to write my story for me......lol  He's a pro at writing.....this we know. lol

[cindi]

Ok guys, I needed to vent...A few weeks ago i had a mild (if there is a mild) case of pneumonia,  It cleard up and I was fine for a few days.  I ended up with a cold and cough again last week and last night I ended up in this God awful pain started in my chest, radiated down my arm and into my neck,  It hurt so bad I could hardly breath, I have had pain from pneumonia before but this was the worst it has ever been,  LORD!!! I thought it was the big one,anyway, it became worse overnight so i called off work and went to an immediate care place, my doc was not in today
they did blood work, a few breathing treatments and a chest x-ray, the pain was so intense i could not even lift my arm up for the x-ray...Ok to make a long story short, doc comes in and says, "ok little lady you have a pretty bad case of pneumonia, that's why you are having such a hard time breathing and have so much pain,  No **** sherlock, That's why I came in  he then proceeds to tell me he has ordered my an anitibiotic, not the kind I usually take for pneumonia, i tried to explain to him what i normally take and he didn't want to hear it,  then he gave me a script for what he said was a really strong pain pill,   ANAPROX  a lousy NSAID and absolutely no cough medicine.  Nothing, he wants me to cough.  ok coughing is intolerable because of the pain, couldn't he at least have given me somethig real for the pain?  I don't get it?  I called my doc's office when I got home and told them what he gave me, she did not really believe anything I told her and would not call my doc.  She acted like I was looking for drugs,  I told her if she didn't belive me to call the Er and have them fax over the reports,  I did manage to get an appointment to see my doc tomorrow.  The doc at the ER did say he wanted to have me admitted to the hospital but i protested that one, my husband is laid off again and our insurance is gone.  If I am that sick why did he not give me the anti biotic that usually helps, y didn't he give me something for the pain  Do we have to beg?  Seriously, do you guys think I am over reacting?  I just think that something is really wrong with this whole picture, a friend of mine c-section, her doc ordered her what he called a really strong pain med also,   Vioxx...  85 year old gramma,  Hip nailing done,  tylenol for pain, All  I want to do is lay down and sleep without all the pain and labored breathing.  Ok,  actually, I don't even know what the purpose to this post was, I just needed to vent, i am so tired of the shabby treatment and insensitive, uncaring people,  If this doc had been feeling like I do you can betyurass that he would do his own self medicating... I know how Annie was treated in the hospital,  this is pathetic.  The pain as so bad by this evening I ended up taking n Oxycontin from my husband,  they are only 10 mgs so i had to take more than that but they at least took the edge off, now if oxy's didn't help completely how the hell is anaprox going to do the trick  it never helped with menstrual cramps oxy didn't help completely because the pain was too bad I didn't get to it in time,i can't keep on with the oxy's because they belong to my husband and it is only a 2week supply and I don' want him to be shorted, his pain is chronic and constant.  sorry this post is so long but i get so upset about the undermedicating issue.  Take care and thanks for listening   Love you guys   cindi

[PS >>>>Annie]

I'm so glad to have helped.  I can stand to see someone hurting, whether it be physical, emotional, or mental pain.  Your getting stronger though.  It will all work out in the long run.  You will see.

Love you too!

Annie

[PS >>>>Annie]

This is to all my forum friends that problems relating to intractable or chronic pain.

HOORAY!!!.....I think I may have located a doctor in my area.

Visit these sites:
MED-HELP.COM (different than this site)Helped in locating a dr.
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Dr.Fisher.org...more or less, an FYI site.

The widomaker.com/~skipb......Most of you know about already.

The MED-HELP site gave me the names of 2 doctors in my area that deal w/ arthritis aggressively.  Perseverance pays off.  I'm am trying not to get my hopes up though.  As soon as I am released from dr's care, I will contact them.

also, you may email ***@****, and be sure to include your zipcodes and surrounding areas.

Although this is an addiction message board, there are people who frequent here, such as myself, trying to understand addiction and long term effects of pain medication to treat chronic pain...to aid in making a decision on whether or not opiate treatment is right for them.  I posted this information w/ this in mind.

Annie

[cindi]

Sometimes it is very hard to remember that I am not the only one dealing with the loss of someone we love.  Ever minute someone suffers through a loss such as this, JB lost a daughter, how does one get through that?  I know my loss is still "new" and in time my thoughts and bitterness will turn into good memories.  I try not to think of seeing her as sick as she was but the day before she died she begged me to help her, i told her I would but I let her down.  I talk to her all the time, I even yell sometimes as crazy as it sounds.  My dear Annie, you seem to always be here when I am down and on more than one occasion you have given me words of wisdom and encouragement, and for that I love you.    Thank you    love to all   cindi

[PS >>>>Annie]

.....I feel compelled to respond to you guys.  I have loss 2 people very close to me also.  2yrs ago my friend, 1yr ago my grandmother.  They both loss the battle to cancer.  I think of them often.  
I'm not sure if this will help, but here goes.  I can recall looking at my friend lying there at the wake.  I couldn't even cry...she looked so peaceful.  I remember thinking...all your suffering is over.  You are a winner.  Sounds a little weird, doesn't it???  When ever I'm down...I think of them.  They are totally at rest...I know this will never resolve the "loss" you feel, and you really miss them.  We are the ones who are truly suffering now.  Dealing w/ everyday life.  
Just try to see them as angels now.  This will comfort you.  I can recall times.....when I ask them, "are you w/ me??"  What do you think about this or what do you think about that???  I may seem a little crazy, but this offers some peace and comfort to me.  I guess what I'm trying to say is:  Don't think of the last minute you saw there faces...talk to them as though they are still w/ you.  This really  helps.  
annie
Ps....It may be wise....not to talk to them out-loud when people are around.  Just a little humor there. lol  Hope you feel better soon.

[cindi]

Thank you for the post, luckily I did get the chance to read it. I am very sorry for your loss.    To talk to someone who has lost a mom is such a relief, I wonder through my days aimlessly, I cry my self to sleep each night, I never imagined the pain could be so intense like my heart has ben ripped apart and is laying in the bottom of my stomach.  Anyway, if I keep on going my post will be deleted, so I will write to you.  You can always send some mail at ***@****.  I will be looking forward to hearing form you   thanks again  Love to all  cindi

[Dee]

Cindi,
many times I have started to write to you only to delete it,
even now I find it very hard to continue with this post, I have read each post you have written about your mom, I have been waiting for it to get easier for me to be able to 'talk' about it but now realize that time will never come.I truly feel a 'connection'with you on this subject..first let me say, I'm sorry for the pain that you have felt and still feel, you see I, to lost my mom to emphysema in april of 1997 we had her wake on my Birthday..it never has gotten 'easier' for me, my mom was not your 'classic' emphysema patient, hers was a 'unique' case..for you to understand that, you would have to know the whole story..
I just wanted to let you know that I feel your pain, (literary)and if ever you want someone to talk to or someone to just listen to you,Iam here..maybe it's time for me to open this wound and let it heal..as much as possible I guess..my email is ***@**** if ever you feel the need...my thoughts are with you..
Dee-not deedee
PS
hopefully this post will not be deleted, please whoever is in charge of the posts, please give Cindi the chance to read this

[cindi]

Thank you for the nice comment above re: your mum.  My mom was a very strong person in her own right, she fought like hell as she was so afraid to leave behind her kids and her grandkids.  (Ok her cat to)  but in the end I had to assure her I would take care of everything,  how can i do that when I can't get past her death.  my days seem so dark and something is missing, the phone calls to my mom etc.  I guess time will help,  Luke, underneath all of your education and intellect, you are wonderful, compassionate, caring man, Not that education and intellect are bad things, they make for very interesting people, but I get the impression that love is very important to you.  you have made several remarks in other posts about how much you love women, and how love is so important to you etc.  I hope that you have some wonderful woman in your life that brings you nothing but happiness and if you don't then I hope you find her real soon..everyone deserves someone.   Love to all cindi

[spook]

Thankyou for sharing and caring,my mum is one tuff(tough)son?sorry daughter of a *****(a real Woman,no bullshit),your replies always give me warmth in an otherwise chemically warm world.God bless you.Actually if I live another 10 years I will obtain access to  3 million dollar trust account,but life without love is a sick JOKE.thank you again and please if I can help in any way pleae ask.

[spook]

Toothless goats,are a poor substitute for a loving women with dentures.

[spook]

As a Neuropsychopharmacologist; I am Am not impressed(disgusted) with OXYCODONE,it comes on fast-(orally or snorted or IV)gives a heroin like rush,has no analgesic effects to surpass Morphine and represents the exploitation of Pharmaceutical companies to brain wash MD`s and Doctors(GP`s),that Codeine Derivatives are less ADDICITIVE than Morphine Analogues ie-,OXYMORPHONE,HEROIN,ETC,this is a scam and the DEA has every right to kick the Pharmaceutical companies Butts,but I am terribly sorry to those already ADDICTED who will suffer.As  nothing will change until government acknowedges that it is a Basic Human Moral RIGHT to get STONED.And you are the one who is going to suffer not the MANUFACTURERS.
Note.I found heroin much easier to get off than OXYCODONE!!!!!!!

[cindi]

Thanks for the info...I believe you, I have no reason to think your making anything up...but i am concerned about the oxy's being taken off the market, like you, I think about what happens to the people who need it.  thanks for the info   cindi

[CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!]

I just want everyone to know that I am only stateing what I saw. The show was broadcast on NBC at 6:30 eastern time. I'll try to sum it up as clear as I possibly can.........

The FDA is concerned about the abuse of the drug oxycontin
They are already sweeping the nation in an effort to bust doctors who freely write scripts and patients who obtain to many scripts.
Remember every script of a narcotic is recorded by the DEA. at least it is here in PA.
They said that if they can come to the conclusion that more people are abusing this drug than the one's who need it than they would consider taking it completly off the market!
Remember they can and do have the power to do this.
No new perscriptions are currently being issued untill October.
People who are currently on oxys have nothing to worry about until then.
They also stated that eventually (october) if the dessision is made by the FDA that they would wean the current patients off of the drug.
Purdue Pharm (makers of oxy's) are curantly fighting this...

Time will tell. Like I said. I'm not making this **** up.
sorry for my spelling........I am typing very quick!
Chad

[cindi]

I missed the news last night,  I am concerned about the oxy's.  after years of intense pain my my husband's doc just worte him a script for oxy's.  Only ten mgs but they do help.  after many years of various meds this helps him and they are taking it off the market?  This **** is so unfair......take care cindi

[cindi]

Your mom is very luck to have come through the lung cancer,  My mom was diagnosed with emphysema in 1989 and did not quit smoking until 95,  became progressively worse and I watched her struggle for every breath until she ended up on a ventilator and died 3 months ago  On Christmas day.  I don't know why I even posted this but I will struggle with this for the rest of my life,  Thank God you still have your mom and she is doing well.   Cindi

[spook]

That was 15 years ago,she is now an attorney and owns her own lawyers firm and is resonably healthy for a 63 year old.My problem with her is her total reluctance to relate to me emotionally.But that is her problem ,that is the way she treats nearly everybody,my father divorced her because of these weird Character disorders.I hope you did not think she was dead,actually I was told at the time she had 3 months to live so I know the feeling anyway.

[CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!]

Stop using my name god-dammit! I will come down there and set you on fire! Did you ever hear of that GAY BAND from the Baltimore area called LACHOZA? They really kick ass!!! Just because they dress in leather thongs doesn't make them a bad band. You just have to be comforatable enough with your own sexuality. During the show I hear they bring out a sheep and..........just go to one of there shows

THE ONLY TRUE CHAD!!!

PHILLY ALL THE WAY BABY!!! CHEESESTEAKS AND CRACK! NO OTHER CITY CAN TOUCH US!


just in case any of you are bothered by this post. my apoligies but I think some of us should lighten up a bit...