Prescription drug abuse

[ReedFrog]

I think a friend of mine might be addicted to prescription drugs. How can I confront him with my concerns without ticking him off. What if I am wrong? Can anyone tell me what signs to look for to make sure?

[Motz]

Peeps were banned for less than religion. (if that is true) "Staff" informed us/me on another site (I dare not post the URL for peeps +have+ been banned for that, selectively)

However, Robyn Banks/Mariposa/minime are beyond the pale. There are a bezillion self help books but this addict's recommendation is Aesop's fables.

These^^^^ morales are to live/die by.

The Subutex/Suboxone thread is where the silly bickering started.

There posts under that thread are C2, C5, C9-10, C42, C44, C49 (Thomas's words)

And: C7, C11, C16-17, C26, C34, C38, C40, c43, C47 (minime's words)

I will not take sides. It's easy to determine who is angry and who is not.

One didn't even have to be present the day "inferred main idea" was taught. A (literal) no brainer.

Regardless, I read/have read here on this forum a long time, long enuf to remember mariposa, groovy and now.. Robyn Banks.

Anger is part of the healing process.

So is reading x-cellent writers, such as.. most recently: Sisyphus and Dancin' in the Dark.

As for mythology, there are a few posts dedicated to the character/story of Sisyphus on another site. I dare not say where though.

Cheers. This nightly glass of vino is hardly worth the effort to pop the cork, but it's better than washing down Vikes w. Stoli.

Isn't it?

otz

[minime]

AGAIN someone (Blue) butts in and flames ME, but yet again I cannot say anything back.  I can do this as long as you can.

[dancinginthedark]

Why would you waste so much time and energy corresponding with someone you find as loathsome as Thomas?

When you go back & read through your own vituperative messages towards someone who actually contributes to this board, you will read the pathetic, hysterical rantings of a child tangled in a web of unfounded fury.

Could the drug you are using possibly be contributing to this?

Take some time to cool off and then come back.  We're all here for you but I am shocked at the tone of your messages.  Go & jump off a bridge?  Take some time - please.

Dancing in the Dark

[Kat49]

A shell of a human you say?  Someone who has helped countless people and inspired so many?  Psycho-******* like you belong in Anger Management Therapy hooked up to a Thorazine drip to keep them quiet!  By the way, Home Depot is running a sale on duct tape so we can seal off our windows in case of an attack  --- you might want to get a few rolls and use it on your mouth!

[mrmichael67]

Basically, you are addicted to opium....to a certain degree.  Both hydrocodone and oxycodone will relieve your withdrawal symptoms.  If you are taking hydro, you might as well be taking oxy.  Of course you would feel better taking hydro four times a day.  Hydrocodone is an opiate agonist, just like oxycodone, or morphine and so on.  The only way to truly get the withdrawals over with is to just do it without either.  Taking hydro is just substituting one for the other.  Any opioid agonist will make you feel better.  That is what cross-tolerance basically is.  If have a tolerance for one, then you have a tolerance (to some degree) to the other agonist.  And, vice-versa.

[Sugarbeens]

First, I am not sure why mimi is upset with Thomas, I did not read that far above, but, I will tell you that there is not a better person(addict that he is) who has not tried to help each and everyone on this board.  Thomas has suffered through withdrawals and had seizures that almost killed him, but, he is still right back here, trying to save us, or lives.  And to ask him to jump off a bridge, how inhumane.  I am sorry to say this, because I do feel your pain too mimi, and I know that you must be huring real bad inside because of your addiction, but Thomas does not think he is better than anyone else, and he doens't think he knows it all.  What he does know, he shares, in hopes I believe that if he can help one person not make the same mistakes with drugs like he has, it will be worth it.  Don't you see the true caring, empathy and compassion in his words. Many of us here see nothing but that. Yes, Thomas says he has been abusing for 30 years, but, like all of us who have abused, I know he wants to stop.  I know the last time I talked to him here, he was 3 weeks clean, but, still wanting to get high!  I hope Thomas you are still hanging in there, but, if not, I still love you, and you are still a wonderful man.  Suicide is what we all are afraid of at times, when going through withdrawal, when hitting rock bottome.  We want to live, have a life, feel joy again, and to have someone tell the most needed person on the forum to do that, I have to only hope and believe that you are in severe pain.  But, we are still here for you, and even though I know Thomas is hurting by what you said, I truly believe he will reach out to you if you will let him.  Maybe it is your fear of what he says to be the truth that frightens you and you get defensive.  Whatever it is, open up your heart a little and let him in.  He can save your life, he did mine a few weeks ago.  I took zanax for only two weeks and at the percribed dose, but, when stopping this short acting benzo I thought I was dying and almost went to the emergency room with such awful pains of anxiety in my chest.  I lost 10 lbs(thanks Thomas I wanted to lose that weight) in one week, couldn't eat and each day I came here and Thomas talked to me and told me it would get easier everday.  That the panic and severe fear I was feeling was just the withdrawal, not that I was going crazy or dying.  Bless you Thomas.  Love to all here, you to MIMI
Love Sugarbeens