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Restless Legs and Arms
How long will the restless legs and arms keep on while going through withdrawals? UGH! That's one of the worst parts for me. Has any body experienced that, too? If so, what worked for you -- or did you just have to suffer through it?
P.S. -- I love all of you. We are all special and unique, with so much to offer to the world. Even though things get crazy and opinions may differ about this thing we call addiction----we are all in this together and need all the support we can get. This place is great and I am here for any of you. Anybody that needs anything -- just let me know. LOVE TO YOU!
P.S. -- I love all of you. We are all special and unique, with so much to offer to the world. Even though things get crazy and opinions may differ about this thing we call addiction----we are all in this together and need all the support we can get. This place is great and I am here for any of you. Anybody that needs anything -- just let me know. LOVE TO YOU!
12 days clean today.... I still don't feel so good at night but each day is better...my mind is clear...everyone is telling me that they have never seen someone change so much 12 days...I
rodewc
Hey thanx for the thought. I didnt have shots the other day but I am going back Monday to have lots of needles stuck in my back and left shoulder. Sounds like fun 'ey?
But other than that I am just groovy!
Twiceaintnice, Austin? Home to SRV, my hero! U R lucky!
Peace to all this rainy dreary night! Bill in Bama!
We Miss You Mikey! I can hear him now.............
Hey thanx for the thought. I didnt have shots the other day but I am going back Monday to have lots of needles stuck in my back and left shoulder. Sounds like fun 'ey?
But other than that I am just groovy!
Twiceaintnice, Austin? Home to SRV, my hero! U R lucky!
Peace to all this rainy dreary night! Bill in Bama!
We Miss You Mikey! I can hear him now.............
Goldie52:
Hey! Don't give up hope! There are people here like you, and yes, it is comforting to know this--after all, we are not human beings on a spiritual journey, but spiritual beings on a human journey...
It has taken me many months/years to come to terms with my addiction. I'm a "pillhead" and am also in chronic pain. It does get easier. Day by day you will feel more at ease than the day before... The withdrawals are horrendous. I would be lying if I said they weren't. I was taking Oxycontin (about 3-400 mgs a day) for my back,(and pleasure) and I know the struggles that we put ourselves through mentally. We "need" them but don't "want" them.
Cold turkey withdrawal is the only way to go for some people. I know that I could not "taper" down. If I had pills in my possession, I did not stand a chance of controlling the "tapering method." It really doesn't seem like you'll make it while you're going through it. You go through a lot of Why me's, the self-pity ****, but you get over it. Time really does heal. The first time that I quit, I took Buprenex--it does help. Maybe there's a possibility of something along these lines?
You know, "they" say that only a percentage of us get addicted to our meds (being pain patients and all); but it's more complicated than that--and we all know it!
CT includes cold sweats, tossing 'n turnin, depression, malaise, shaking hands, body, for that matter.
You are not a loser or a coward. You are a brave being. It takes a lot to admit you have a problem much less act on it! Just remember: It's not brave if you are not scared! I can soooooo relate to your situation when you say that it's not fair to your family. We must not let ourselves put ourselves down; it's as toxic as the pills. Our families do need us to "be there," I for one spent too much time not "being there." Not only do painkillers kill pain, but everything else in between.
You will get through this, alive and kicking. I've been off for a month now, for the 2nd time, and am more determined than ever to be off them for good. I used to think about how it was gonna be to "live". Narcotics seem to be able to take over the thinking for us.
Best wishes to all of you out there! I do pray for us all; and He listens if We allow Him! When you say that you can't live like this, please be comforted to know that no one can sanely. I'll be content if my experience can be of help to you. I used to think that MAYBE I could handle a "few," well, I tried AND failed! I've been on them for over two years and I can't "handle" them even though I've been off them for over a month. It's just not a possibility for me at this point.
However, there are meds out there to help you through withdrawals, I just hope that you have a VERY understanding doc. My doc was downright mean about the whole thing, but then again I did put it on myself. Doctors in general are usually pretty understanding if you're downight truthful about it--they SHOULD help. Like with bennies, valium, xanas, ativan--use them only as a crutch for so long or else you'll just be in the same boat; and no one wants to "see" that.
Love to All, Laur
Hey! Don't give up hope! There are people here like you, and yes, it is comforting to know this--after all, we are not human beings on a spiritual journey, but spiritual beings on a human journey...
It has taken me many months/years to come to terms with my addiction. I'm a "pillhead" and am also in chronic pain. It does get easier. Day by day you will feel more at ease than the day before... The withdrawals are horrendous. I would be lying if I said they weren't. I was taking Oxycontin (about 3-400 mgs a day) for my back,(and pleasure) and I know the struggles that we put ourselves through mentally. We "need" them but don't "want" them.
Cold turkey withdrawal is the only way to go for some people. I know that I could not "taper" down. If I had pills in my possession, I did not stand a chance of controlling the "tapering method." It really doesn't seem like you'll make it while you're going through it. You go through a lot of Why me's, the self-pity ****, but you get over it. Time really does heal. The first time that I quit, I took Buprenex--it does help. Maybe there's a possibility of something along these lines?
You know, "they" say that only a percentage of us get addicted to our meds (being pain patients and all); but it's more complicated than that--and we all know it!
CT includes cold sweats, tossing 'n turnin, depression, malaise, shaking hands, body, for that matter.
You are not a loser or a coward. You are a brave being. It takes a lot to admit you have a problem much less act on it! Just remember: It's not brave if you are not scared! I can soooooo relate to your situation when you say that it's not fair to your family. We must not let ourselves put ourselves down; it's as toxic as the pills. Our families do need us to "be there," I for one spent too much time not "being there." Not only do painkillers kill pain, but everything else in between.
You will get through this, alive and kicking. I've been off for a month now, for the 2nd time, and am more determined than ever to be off them for good. I used to think about how it was gonna be to "live". Narcotics seem to be able to take over the thinking for us.
Best wishes to all of you out there! I do pray for us all; and He listens if We allow Him! When you say that you can't live like this, please be comforted to know that no one can sanely. I'll be content if my experience can be of help to you. I used to think that MAYBE I could handle a "few," well, I tried AND failed! I've been on them for over two years and I can't "handle" them even though I've been off them for over a month. It's just not a possibility for me at this point.
However, there are meds out there to help you through withdrawals, I just hope that you have a VERY understanding doc. My doc was downright mean about the whole thing, but then again I did put it on myself. Doctors in general are usually pretty understanding if you're downight truthful about it--they SHOULD help. Like with bennies, valium, xanas, ativan--use them only as a crutch for so long or else you'll just be in the same boat; and no one wants to "see" that.
Love to All, Laur
Sometimes it is just what the doctor ordered!!!
Nothing like talking to your buddies on the phone instead of always "typing" what you have to say. I have talked to a few other buddies on the phone from here and it is always nice to finally talk "talk" instead of always just typing away.
Not to mention the accents are always funny! lol. Just kiddin' Being from California, EVERYONE else has an accent! I could always speak Japanese and then I could have one too.
Its always nice talking to friends that we have made here, especially since some of us have been buddies on here for over a year now.
Except watch out ladies, he's a swooner...
Just what the doc ordered, thanks Bill.
Chezz
Nothing like talking to your buddies on the phone instead of always "typing" what you have to say. I have talked to a few other buddies on the phone from here and it is always nice to finally talk "talk" instead of always just typing away.
Not to mention the accents are always funny! lol. Just kiddin' Being from California, EVERYONE else has an accent! I could always speak Japanese and then I could have one too.
Its always nice talking to friends that we have made here, especially since some of us have been buddies on here for over a year now.
Except watch out ladies, he's a swooner...
Just what the doc ordered, thanks Bill.
Chezz
SBelle:
yeah the RLS! this is one afliction of addiction your sleeping partner will get to "share and enjoy with you." if your lover understands (or is sick of gettin the **** kicked out of him) sleep in different beds for awhile!!
now there are meds....and they can be addictive and problematic...
1)clonazepam...a fairly long acting benzo, but watch out!
2)baclofen... a neuro- muscle relaxer. i take this, not for RLS, but as a way to deal with the awful spasum i have with my neck problems.
i don't know if it is addictive...all i can tell you is the first week i took i felt like the town drunk. now i hardly even notice it, and it still does it's job!
3)hydoxizine...Thomas03 i know how you eel about "antihistamine swill," but this one is different...especially if used i conjunction with either one of th afore mentioned meds....
anyhow, i hope any of this helps...the "kicks" are one of the worst little malladys to add to the major horror show of opiate withdrawalls.
post a lot and keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
yeah the RLS! this is one afliction of addiction your sleeping partner will get to "share and enjoy with you." if your lover understands (or is sick of gettin the **** kicked out of him) sleep in different beds for awhile!!
now there are meds....and they can be addictive and problematic...
1)clonazepam...a fairly long acting benzo, but watch out!
2)baclofen... a neuro- muscle relaxer. i take this, not for RLS, but as a way to deal with the awful spasum i have with my neck problems.
i don't know if it is addictive...all i can tell you is the first week i took i felt like the town drunk. now i hardly even notice it, and it still does it's job!
3)hydoxizine...Thomas03 i know how you eel about "antihistamine swill," but this one is different...especially if used i conjunction with either one of th afore mentioned meds....
anyhow, i hope any of this helps...the "kicks" are one of the worst little malladys to add to the major horror show of opiate withdrawalls.
post a lot and keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
Boy, Chezz, if you get a kick out of "accents", you'd definitely get a hoot out of me (like BMac, a southernern)...smile...We may sound a bit "raw" and be a little red on the neck, but us southernerns have that proverbial heart of gold! We like our tea "sweet" and our bar-b-que "HOT"!!!! You're gonna have to make a trip "south" sometime and check everything out.
Billy - glad to see you back today; I have to admit I was a little worried about ya. But I see you're back on board pouring out the charm to the ladies, so I assume all is well...smile.
I'm thankful for both of you guys; yeah, I mean it!...smile.
Love - Lisabet good-nite!
Billy - glad to see you back today; I have to admit I was a little worried about ya. But I see you're back on board pouring out the charm to the ladies, so I assume all is well...smile.
I'm thankful for both of you guys; yeah, I mean it!...smile.
Love - Lisabet good-nite!
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