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Suboxene scam?

My wife is on suboxene and has been since last Monday. The doctor charged us $150 for the first visit and the script was $40 with help from my insurance.
The first script for 16 pills lasted her 4 days. Four 8 mg tablets a day just as the dr. prescribed. We went to the doctor Thur. for another appointment and he charged $120 for that visit and the script was another $40.We have another appointment for Monday and that is going to cost another $120 with the script costing me $40 again.This is getting more expensive than the freaking oxys that got her there in the first place!
What I am trying to ask everyone is. How are you guys being charged? It is hard to find doctors who are able to treat using suboxene and it is Saturday with X-mas coming Tuesday so getting live info from a doctor is a  problem.
Is this treatment this expensive or how bad am I getting scammed?
Some one please post back soon. I am getting very upset and I know she needs the treatment.
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301197 tn?1198341606
I think what happens with the Dr's. that charge that high (which everyone that I've tried was just as expensive as the next), is because it's not something that's neccesarily "needed" from an insurance perspective, for example, dental insurance not covering veniers (did I spell that correctly?) because they consider it cosmetic, and non emergent.  I am in agreeance with yourself, and IBKleen though because from everything I've read here many people have benefited from Suboxone, and I feel for those who are in need of it, and can't afford it because of the money.  Take care, BA...
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352796 tn?1200607746
My sub doctor, wanted me to come in like your wife,  but due to distance (220 miles r/t) he allowed me to come to my first visit, a week later and then a month, then 2, then 3.  

Try not to see it as a rip off, although I would feel the EXACT same way.  It is important to monitor your body when going on the Suboxone.  I had blood and urine tests every time I went the first 4 times to make sure my body wasn't having a bad reaction.

32 mgs is high.  How does your wife feel?  Is she comfortable or are there side effects?  I needed a nap for the first month or so I was on (8mgs), but nothing else.

Hope this helps.  Some people here only want to throw sarcasm, ie. johnnykelly.
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Your lucky,Soboxone/Subutex is available, and moreover you have rthat 500.00 per-week,so be greatful,stop your winning or at least buy some cheese.
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347379 tn?1201220913
I am so sorry you are being charged so much..........That is terrible!  I started my Sub Doc on Thursday and he was so nice and helpful I didnt have a dime so he let me writ 2 post dated checks and It was $250 for 30 days which includes counsleing for me and my kids everyweekend.  Truely a Godsend!  I am soo grateful!  And he made my script so I dont have to keep getting refills!!  My script only cost $20.  So yes I think your doc is a ******* and way over charging you!!  But like someone else said it will be over soon and its worth it!!  Your wifes sobriety and life are priceless!  Hang in there you are doing the right thing by helping her!!!
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around 20 to 30 20mg pills a day.

I gotta go to the store I will be back in around an hour and a half
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Thank you all for your comments and keep them coming. What I am really intersted in is if anyone is familiar with the cost of this treament and is there any hope to find a doctor who is not charging this much next week.
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147172 tn?1226758178
That is a very high dose to be on.  Most people don't go over 12 mgs a day.  I took Subutex, which is basically the same thing and I started at 16 mg but was off within 21 days and had some withdrawal but not much.  The longer you are on this the harder it is to get off.  What I would suggest is that she take the absolute minimum amount she can to not experience withdrawls.  The drug has a long half life so she might not start to feel anything until the 2nd day off of it.  It's best used as a way to detox not as a maintenance drug as the docs would have you believe.  
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357326 tn?1198719771
i will pm them to you
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"You are going to be hard pressed to find a doctor this weekend, but perhaps next Wednesday you can check for other doctors in your area who are certified to prescribe. Go to the Suboxone website and do a search by zip code."



That is how we found this doctor. Lots of the others had waiting lists and or charged around the same for the first visit.I did not get as far as a second visit. We just got to the first doctor asap. She was in bad shape.
By the way. The drug works fantastic for w/d and has been a wonder as for cravings and over all general physical condition.
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From what I have read on other forums she seems to be taking a high dose.
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Thanx for answering so fast. Pleaseother people or the same, post back just as fast. I really need answers to make me feel more secure and informed.
This $$ is making X-mas a nightmare. I only make around $500 a week bring home.
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Yes. Those were the directions. The doctor said that this might go on for a whole year but the appointments will stretch to once every two weeks and then once a month.
Oxys were much cheaper than this. Not saying she is going back to them. That would mean surtain destruction
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271792 tn?1334979657
Good Morning!

I don't know if I would call it a scam, per say, but there are doctors who charge ridiculous amounts of money---because they can. I have a problem with that also.

I did the Suboxone program back in August of this year and my doctor charged $250 for the first visit and $90 a week thereafter. The pills themselves were quite expensive, but my insurance covered a good portion of that. My doctor refused my insurance although I am 10% covered everywhere else I go. I only stayed on the Sub for 16 days and for that I am grateful. I would have had to mortgage my home if I stayed any longer.

You are going to be hard pressed to find a doctor this weekend, but perhaps next Wednesday you can check for other doctors in your area who are certified to prescribe. Go to the Suboxone website and do a search by zip code.

Glad to hear your wife is getting treatment. Did the doctor say how long she will be on it? It is good to arm yourself with all the information you can regarding the treatment.

Good Luck and take care.
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357326 tn?1198719771
Just one question, is this the way the dr said to take meds and come in so often? about the cost it will be over soon and oxys will not be.
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1895503 tn?1332373374
You replied to an old post.  please start a new thread.  It could be helpful to some people.  Welcome here.  And, if you take them for longer than a month, be sure you are taking them fully informed by reading all about subs on here.  sometime we have to have them.  they are not a good long-term solution for most for opiate dependency I have learned from people's posts here, and from my current experience with subs.  I wish you the best.  Marie
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2109198 tn?1334093967
I am currently addicted to lortab and finally went to a new doctor that would help me instead of just giveing me more..i seriously want help so i told her the truth about everything..anmyway back to the subject..i have tried Suboxone but i was not  prescribed it and i know thats wrong but i had a friend that was taking them ..and theres no way i could have taken a whole 8mg of it at one time ,,i had one 8mg tablet and broke it in 5 pieces..and i took one piece  day i thought it was wonderful ..why did he give her such a high dosage?..but thats not my business sorry anyway i am going to get an appointment to try them and my doctor will have to refer me to another doctor because she cannot subscribe them ,,i have medicare and medicaid and as soon as i go i will come back and let you know what my charges are..i used to be really ashamed to even talk about it but i had so many knee surgeries and was even in a wheelchair for 2 years and had to take pain medication and i didnt know that when i tried to stop when i got well that i would be really sick and didnt even realize what it was..and yes i am sure the doctors take advantage of people and insurance companies
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243614 tn?1266197537
When i started on Suboxone in Aug.> it was a study program for adapt.   All free.  I thank my Lord for that one, but i certainly would have paid whatever.  My only thinking on this is, i took 8 mg a day. 4mg a.m. and 4 in the p.m.  Your wife may not need as much as she is taking.  Then they tapered me off, too fast i must say and the wd's were awful.  Anxiety and depression like I never knew there could be.  You sound like a great spouse, as my husband is to me.
Your wife will make it.  Keep posting and i am glad you found a better dr.  TJack
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oops. I don't know how I did that twice. My bad.
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OK. So it turns out and I am sorry to say that this doctor we went to is (In my opinion) a slimeball. We found a new doctor and to all of you who are unlucky enough to go thru what my wife and I did with locating a doctor, keep looking. The good ones are out there and you can find them on the Suboxone website. You just have to dig a little harder.
I do not want to get in trouble with the owners of the site so I will say that this is only in my opinion and not the website's. Unfortunatly the first doctor we found was thru the same website and I am sure that there are lawyers out there willing enough to try and come after someone for slander. God knows between the doctors, lawyers and the drug companies they have enough money to do it.
My opinion has no expertise to back up what I am saying but the story speaks for itself.
The suboxene has worked wonders and I recomend it highly. Just watch out for doctors who want to take advantage of you when you can't feel much lower than than you feel already.
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OK. So it turns out and I am sorry to say that this doctor we went to is (In my opinion) a slimeball. We found a new doctor and to all of you who are unlucky enough to go thru what my wife and I did with locating a doctor, keep looking. The good ones are out there and you can find them on the Suboxone website. You just have to dig a little harder.
I do not want to get in trouble with the owners of the site so I will say that this is only in my opinion and not the website's. Unfortunatly the first doctor we found was thru the same website and I am sure that there are lawyers out there willing enough to try and come after someone for slander. God knows between the doctors, lawyers and the drug companies they have enough money to do it.
My opinion has no expertise to back up what I am saying but the story speaks for itself.
The suboxene has worked wonders and I recomend it highly. Just watch out for doctors who want to take advantage of you when you can't feel much lower than than you feel already.
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We have aftercare. A child and family organazation comes out two times a week and she has an intensive care manager that also come out two times a week. There is also her pyschiatrist to monitor meds like prozac and such.
So that is four days a week of outside help. Med. management and of course myself.
I do not like 12 step programs. In the past they have been a breeding ground for addicts to enable other addicts and even her sponsor worked out to be a bad situation. They still are a great thing to do to fill time in the evenings as we can do it together and be around at least some people who are trying to change there lives. When I say breeding ground for addicts to  enable other addicts I know that the whole program is not like that and there are quite a few that are serious about there problem but there still are some pretty creeepy people out there latching on to each other. I do not want to be busting on AA and NA they serve a wonderful purpose.
Wgat she needs and we are trying to find is some outpatient therapy during the week to keep her busy.
By the way she is disabled (physicaly and mentaly and approved for SSI) and not working so the days when I am at work are going to be a challenge.
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My doctor charged $300 for 1st visit and $150 per week thereafter. But I stayed on Subuxom for 3 days and stopped. There is no reason to be on this for more than a week. After a week your opiate cravings should be gone. Try tapering off the second week and finishing with it.
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consider it a very expensive gift.

if it gets her clean, it's worth every penny.  and btw - if she's "jonzing" for her Sub, she needs aftercare.  she needs meetings and/or counceling.  this tells me she has very addictive behavior, so please do not stop the sub (or you'll be back to square one) and she's gotta get additional help.

sorry bud - but you guys want your lives back.  and there's a price for that...

God bless..
mj
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233181 tn?1235183152
Curious was the message I sent you of any help regarding infromaton you seemed to be looking for. Please let me now-----NOAH
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