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Rod327
Hello
I have neck and back pains from work and old age, I am 53 I have two more years to retire.
The problem is I started taking tramodols 4 at a time once a day when they were perscribed to take 1 or 2 4 times a day. That really didn't take the pain away but it did give me a certain high.
I stopped taking them on my own cause they started making me lazy and unwilling to work out as I did for years. The withdrawls were no sleep for two weeks, then I was ok.
That lasted about a year then I went back to the doctor an asked to be put on the tramodol again.
That worked for awhile until a friend at work started giving me a norco every now and then which I really like how they made me feel. Then I started buying them from him and only used them on the weekend, usually on sat.
After awhile I started taking them for often and buying more along with some soma and taking them together. That felt pretty good so I went to my doctor and said I need something stronger so I worked my way up to getting scripts for 20m oxcys and soma. I started taking those one of each
3x a day. That worked for awhile then I found out about snorting the oxcys and did that, the started
snorting the somas along with the oxcys, That felt great. Tha problem was I started snorting them 2 at a time, 2 oxcys and 1 soma 2x a day the 3x then I started running out before my next refill so I
took the tramodol till I got my refills.
Ok so here I am, I had a good job position, I lost it after 20 yrs. I,ve been making alot of stupid decisions I asked my bosses boss for a transfer and got what I asked for.
My nose is always running and he noticed and asked why and I jokingly said I snort too much cocaine, he got a laugh out of that and asked if I had anymore for him.
Anyways here I am on dissability sitting at home feeling depressed , I'm out of the oxcys and soma
till the 20th, ten more days. I still have tramodol and 10m valiums. This is my 2nd day taking two tramodols twice a day and two valiums at beedtime so I can sleep.
My question is- after my long histery (sorry) is I really have achs and pains but I can't seem to take
my scripts as perscibe.
I know I'm an addict I did the AA, NA meetings and stayed alchol and drug free for 12yrs
Then I started drinking over a bad relationship. I tried going back to NA, AA but it's like I heard it all
before and one addict thinks he.s better than the other the same with AA and I just won't listen to it anymore.
I still have a job according to my boss it's just slow right now being winter-I work in construction-
I sit around the house feeling depressed I kind of know what to do as far as excercise and eatin well
I'm just feeling insecure right now cause I've always worked year around for the last 28 yrs
now I'm like in a backup guy position and I have to when I do work. I'm used to working 2 thousand hours a year now I only need to work 1 thou for the next two yrs but then I'll have all that free time
on my hands.
I apoligise if I rambled too long but I am new to this forum and just need to connect with people
that's been there and done that. Hope to hear from someone soon
Peace
I have neck and back pains from work and old age, I am 53 I have two more years to retire.
The problem is I started taking tramodols 4 at a time once a day when they were perscribed to take 1 or 2 4 times a day. That really didn't take the pain away but it did give me a certain high.
I stopped taking them on my own cause they started making me lazy and unwilling to work out as I did for years. The withdrawls were no sleep for two weeks, then I was ok.
That lasted about a year then I went back to the doctor an asked to be put on the tramodol again.
That worked for awhile until a friend at work started giving me a norco every now and then which I really like how they made me feel. Then I started buying them from him and only used them on the weekend, usually on sat.
After awhile I started taking them for often and buying more along with some soma and taking them together. That felt pretty good so I went to my doctor and said I need something stronger so I worked my way up to getting scripts for 20m oxcys and soma. I started taking those one of each
3x a day. That worked for awhile then I found out about snorting the oxcys and did that, the started
snorting the somas along with the oxcys, That felt great. Tha problem was I started snorting them 2 at a time, 2 oxcys and 1 soma 2x a day the 3x then I started running out before my next refill so I
took the tramodol till I got my refills.
Ok so here I am, I had a good job position, I lost it after 20 yrs. I,ve been making alot of stupid decisions I asked my bosses boss for a transfer and got what I asked for.
My nose is always running and he noticed and asked why and I jokingly said I snort too much cocaine, he got a laugh out of that and asked if I had anymore for him.
Anyways here I am on dissability sitting at home feeling depressed , I'm out of the oxcys and soma
till the 20th, ten more days. I still have tramodol and 10m valiums. This is my 2nd day taking two tramodols twice a day and two valiums at beedtime so I can sleep.
My question is- after my long histery (sorry) is I really have achs and pains but I can't seem to take
my scripts as perscibe.
I know I'm an addict I did the AA, NA meetings and stayed alchol and drug free for 12yrs
Then I started drinking over a bad relationship. I tried going back to NA, AA but it's like I heard it all
before and one addict thinks he.s better than the other the same with AA and I just won't listen to it anymore.
I still have a job according to my boss it's just slow right now being winter-I work in construction-
I sit around the house feeling depressed I kind of know what to do as far as excercise and eatin well
I'm just feeling insecure right now cause I've always worked year around for the last 28 yrs
now I'm like in a backup guy position and I have to when I do work. I'm used to working 2 thousand hours a year now I only need to work 1 thou for the next two yrs but then I'll have all that free time
on my hands.
I apoligise if I rambled too long but I am new to this forum and just need to connect with people
that's been there and done that. Hope to hear from someone soon
Peace
Were you getting the shots when your were clean those 12 yrs.
Yes the shot I was refering to was a narcotic that knocks ths spasm right out.
i think hes talking about a narcotic shot....like morphine..or dilaudid...i used to get them for migraines works fast.......
Is it epidural/steroid injections? If so, I had them and they did work--but only short term. they are a series of 3 shots, give 3 weeks apart. If that is it, listen to the doctors instructions and follow through on the aftercare that he recommends.
Thanks Nai, I don.t feel 53 and I don,t look it I still turn alot of heads.
As far as the shot I mentioned goes it's some kind of pain shot put they won't let you out of er
my yourself someone has to drive you home.
I do take hot showers and they do help.
Thanks for the response.
Rod
As far as the shot I mentioned goes it's some kind of pain shot put they won't let you out of er
my yourself someone has to drive you home.
I do take hot showers and they do help.
Thanks for the response.
Rod
I was kidding about the 53. Just in case anyone was wondering. (I'm 53 too)
Rod, good luck on this journey. I hope things go well for you.
Rod, good luck on this journey. I hope things go well for you.
Hey, 53 is not old! My dad turned 50 in September and he's going skydiving next week. :)
I snorted oxys for a while, but I stopped 'cause I was using them up too fast. I have the same pain from w/d that you do. I didn't know you could get a shot to make it go away. Up until the past three days, the neck and back and arm and head pain has been the absolute worst symptoms I'd experienced. Now it's the horrible depression, I can't make myself do anything. I don't know if it would help, but maybe find a hot tub you could sit in when it gets really bad. Hot showers helped a little.
I snorted oxys for a while, but I stopped 'cause I was using them up too fast. I have the same pain from w/d that you do. I didn't know you could get a shot to make it go away. Up until the past three days, the neck and back and arm and head pain has been the absolute worst symptoms I'd experienced. Now it's the horrible depression, I can't make myself do anything. I don't know if it would help, but maybe find a hot tub you could sit in when it gets really bad. Hot showers helped a little.
I'm using the tramodol as a substitute to tapper off completely.
I'm afraid though cause I do get really bad muscle spasms sometimes and they happen at 2 or 3 in the mornig so I have to go to the ER and wait there for 3 to 4hours before they give me a shot which is the only thing that will knock it out really fast.
Thanks for responding
Rod327
I'm afraid though cause I do get really bad muscle spasms sometimes and they happen at 2 or 3 in the mornig so I have to go to the ER and wait there for 3 to 4hours before they give me a shot which is the only thing that will knock it out really fast.
Thanks for responding
Rod327
Man I never expected so many responses from you all thank you very much.
I didn't mean to knock down AA or NA I know I wasn't doing my footwork, working the steps, getting a new sponser and going to more meetings working with other addicts.
I was on a dry drunk for alot of years.
I was into bodybuilding so I was working out constantly and that kept me clean alot.
To tell you the truth I don't know how I stayed sober all those years but I just havn't been able to stop wanting to get high.
I'm tapering down from the med I was taking 3 to 6 20m oxcys and 3to 5 somas a day till I run out then I would subsitute with 4 to 8 tramodols a day.
This is my 3rd day without the oxcys and somas but I've been taking 2 tramodols twice a day
and for sleep at night I'm taking 2 10m valiums. I'm planning on cutting that in half by next week till I can taper to nothing.
I can still feel that on the 20th of this month when I get my oxcys and somas I'm thinking that if I take them as prescribed which is 1 oxcy and 1 soma 3 times a day orrally instead of snorting them I will be alright for I do have servere back and neck pains.
I know I need to get back to work and start getting reconnected with my passions.
I thank you all who sesponded.
Rod327
I didn't mean to knock down AA or NA I know I wasn't doing my footwork, working the steps, getting a new sponser and going to more meetings working with other addicts.
I was on a dry drunk for alot of years.
I was into bodybuilding so I was working out constantly and that kept me clean alot.
To tell you the truth I don't know how I stayed sober all those years but I just havn't been able to stop wanting to get high.
I'm tapering down from the med I was taking 3 to 6 20m oxcys and 3to 5 somas a day till I run out then I would subsitute with 4 to 8 tramodols a day.
This is my 3rd day without the oxcys and somas but I've been taking 2 tramodols twice a day
and for sleep at night I'm taking 2 10m valiums. I'm planning on cutting that in half by next week till I can taper to nothing.
I can still feel that on the 20th of this month when I get my oxcys and somas I'm thinking that if I take them as prescribed which is 1 oxcy and 1 soma 3 times a day orrally instead of snorting them I will be alright for I do have servere back and neck pains.
I know I need to get back to work and start getting reconnected with my passions.
I thank you all who sesponded.
Rod327
I can so relate to the not working thing. I have my own business and it has been so slow the past year. The sitting around with nothing to do but think about pills is horrible. I decide I needed to do something productive. So my sister and I have been having garage sales. It keeps us busy and we make a few bucks off the junk we have laying around. Don't really have any great advise. Keep posting and reading. It helps alot. Mary
I know I'm an addict I did the AA, NA meetings and stayed alchol and drug free for 12yrs
Then I started drinking over a bad relationship. I tried going back to NA, AA but it's like I heard it all
before and one addict thinks he.s better than the other the same with AA and I just won't listen to it anymore.
If you've heard it all before and know what you need to do to get sober and STAY sober not just clean then you wouldn't have the attitude of "I've heard it all before". You're totally taking YOUR will back.... THY will be done.
Obviously what you have been doing wasn't enough because you went back out and over a bad relationship? If you were secure in your mind and had done the necessary step work and communicated on a regular basis with your sponsor and support group, I would like to think you could have saved yourself the pain of raising your hand to say that you have one day back.
It tells us in How It Works, that you have to be willing to go any legnths. Have you gotten a new sponsor, are you helping other addicts, are you committed to a home group, do you make coffee anywhere, have you done the steps, are you being totally and completely honest without abandon?
Those are the questions you have to ask yourself. If by staying home and typing on thsi computer about your life and experience, while helpful to others I'm sure, is your way of DEALING, then maybe it's because you want to hide and not face anyone face to face beacuse you aren't doing all you could be.
Did you ever stop to think that a person new or just coming back in the rooms might benefit from hearing YOUR story? It is afterall for the newcomer in the end.
Good luck to you though.
Then I started drinking over a bad relationship. I tried going back to NA, AA but it's like I heard it all
before and one addict thinks he.s better than the other the same with AA and I just won't listen to it anymore.
If you've heard it all before and know what you need to do to get sober and STAY sober not just clean then you wouldn't have the attitude of "I've heard it all before". You're totally taking YOUR will back.... THY will be done.
Obviously what you have been doing wasn't enough because you went back out and over a bad relationship? If you were secure in your mind and had done the necessary step work and communicated on a regular basis with your sponsor and support group, I would like to think you could have saved yourself the pain of raising your hand to say that you have one day back.
It tells us in How It Works, that you have to be willing to go any legnths. Have you gotten a new sponsor, are you helping other addicts, are you committed to a home group, do you make coffee anywhere, have you done the steps, are you being totally and completely honest without abandon?
Those are the questions you have to ask yourself. If by staying home and typing on thsi computer about your life and experience, while helpful to others I'm sure, is your way of DEALING, then maybe it's because you want to hide and not face anyone face to face beacuse you aren't doing all you could be.
Did you ever stop to think that a person new or just coming back in the rooms might benefit from hearing YOUR story? It is afterall for the newcomer in the end.
Good luck to you though.
Wow 53 pretty old. I feel sorry for your nose. :)
Same problem as you. It's called addiction to drugs. You are using for the high.
Are you trying to quit? Do you want to save what life you still have left?
If so, we want to help you. There are many ways (2 mainly) to quit. You can quit cold turkey and never look back. (This means alcohol too.) It seems you have some down time w/job. You could be clean by Christmas. Or you can try to taper but from your description of use, I would guess that you couldn't do it. It's too hard to not take too many when they are in front of you.
Let us know how we can help you in your decision.
Same problem as you. It's called addiction to drugs. You are using for the high.
Are you trying to quit? Do you want to save what life you still have left?
If so, we want to help you. There are many ways (2 mainly) to quit. You can quit cold turkey and never look back. (This means alcohol too.) It seems you have some down time w/job. You could be clean by Christmas. Or you can try to taper but from your description of use, I would guess that you couldn't do it. It's too hard to not take too many when they are in front of you.
Let us know how we can help you in your decision.
Yes, everyone here is there for you man. I'm 21 from Chicago and have a 4-10 10mg vike a day habit that I've had for the last 2 months. Probably sounds like nothing to most people on here but it's scaring the hell out of me. You will find the support you need here I am sure of it. Good luck and keep talking.
hey buddy, you've come to the right place!
this forum is a wonderful place to connect with people, and get help/support if you want/need it. it's a really great group...
so no need to feel lonely anymore! you now have a new group of friends... :-)
very warmly,
mj
this forum is a wonderful place to connect with people, and get help/support if you want/need it. it's a really great group...
so no need to feel lonely anymore! you now have a new group of friends... :-)
very warmly,
mj
Hello.
I am sorry, but I could not read this whole post. My retention is not that good. So, if you don't mind, I will ask a question? Are you trying to get off of Tramodol? Is that the bottom line?
BTW..don't knock the old folks..I am older than you...LOL
I am sorry, but I could not read this whole post. My retention is not that good. So, if you don't mind, I will ask a question? Are you trying to get off of Tramodol? Is that the bottom line?
BTW..don't knock the old folks..I am older than you...LOL
Hi Rod, I know exactly how you feel. life can seem pretty lonely at times. You know, its great this internet thing - being able to just chat with somebody and feel a part of it all again. It seems I can open up more, think clearer, and take my time to engineer a response, instead of being put on the spot like in real life conversations. Anyway, It sounds like you have got everything together, just kind of drifting through life right now. I'm only 44 myself and have a lot of time on my hands. Some say idle hands do the devils work, but for every saying there is an opposite logic. I suppose what comes around, really does go around in the end, if their really is one. It depends on how long your willing to wait to find out. Most likely one only gets back what they put in. It means something different to everyone. Seems like you have been through a lot and there is more to come. Maybe just put your feet up and relax.
Love
Love
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