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Trazodone for Opiate Withdrawal
I feel like a whiner after reading some of the posts here.
I am a chronic pot smoker of 30+ years (as well as abusing opiates with increasing frequency). As I get older, the detriment is outweighing the benefits. Pot is harder to find, poor quality or outrageously expensive. Unfortunately, I have turned to occasional heroin use as an alternative, going through cycles of use/withdrawal almost every few weeks. To combat the after effects I have been taking Vicodin (in the absence of having pot to smoke) for about two weeks steadily (max 8 5/500s, min 3 per day).
I need to break out of this cycle before I face more dire consequences. I'm already facing nausea, sweating, and other discomfort.
My questions are: Could lack of smoking be exacerbating my discomfort from the other drugs (i.e. should I find some pot, deal with the opiates, and work on the pot addiction later)?
I have heard of Trazodone prescribed for cocaine withdrawal. Is there any benefit in helping with opiates?
I'm really tired of drugs being the focus of my life, and would like to change while I still have some life left to enjoy, but after all these years, question my ability to do so. I am not at all religious, and don't like the idea of any of this 12 step ****.
It has helped a lot reading this board and seeing I'm not alone, but it hasn't got my foot out the door. Any advice would be appreciated. James
I am a chronic pot smoker of 30+ years (as well as abusing opiates with increasing frequency). As I get older, the detriment is outweighing the benefits. Pot is harder to find, poor quality or outrageously expensive. Unfortunately, I have turned to occasional heroin use as an alternative, going through cycles of use/withdrawal almost every few weeks. To combat the after effects I have been taking Vicodin (in the absence of having pot to smoke) for about two weeks steadily (max 8 5/500s, min 3 per day).
I need to break out of this cycle before I face more dire consequences. I'm already facing nausea, sweating, and other discomfort.
My questions are: Could lack of smoking be exacerbating my discomfort from the other drugs (i.e. should I find some pot, deal with the opiates, and work on the pot addiction later)?
I have heard of Trazodone prescribed for cocaine withdrawal. Is there any benefit in helping with opiates?
I'm really tired of drugs being the focus of my life, and would like to change while I still have some life left to enjoy, but after all these years, question my ability to do so. I am not at all religious, and don't like the idea of any of this 12 step ****.
It has helped a lot reading this board and seeing I'm not alone, but it hasn't got my foot out the door. Any advice would be appreciated. James
Hello. My name's Kacey. I just recently decided to stop taking roxy and oxycontin. I'm young, only 20. In high school I expiramented with all sorts of things but in the end, I only kept smoking cigs, drinking, and smoking pot...until recently. I moved back to Florida and I got this new job, telemarketing (haha), started meeting people...and shortly thereafter...I was offered a "roxy". I had no idea what it was, just a pain pill was all I knew. Not long afterwards, I started taking them regularly. I am at a point where I take between 1 and a half - 3 roxys (30mg) or take an oxy (80), and half of a roxy every day. The worst part is, I snort them. I've recently ruined, or &@#$ near came close to ruining, a lot of relationships with family and friends b/c of my drug addiction. I am getting methadone to help with the withdrawls, but I was wondering if anyone had advice on how to stop the restless leg/insomnia feeling. The muscle and back pain isn't fun to deal with either. I think I am going to try at least a few of these things in your recipe to help reduce the severity of the withdrawals. If you could let me know anything at all, it would be much appreciated. You can email me : ***@**** , myspace me: myspace.com/kaceyfuckinweaver ,or call me 727-657-5919. You seem like a smart guy and I am willing to try to do anything to make things right with my family again, and to kick my roxy habbit. Thanks so much. -kcjones-
i am addicted to nubain its a drug used by bodybuilders however i am not a body builder my husband is. i had surgery in september and was in alot of pain and my husband started giving me nubain shots. Now i want to stop and i feel like i cant i am so scared,afraid and tired of feeling like this i have never used drugs or been addicted to anything now my kids are losing there mother to drugs. I feel like my life is not worth living anymore
The APAP will kill you, STOP taking them by the handul, or your liver could ultimately "fail".
Stop taking so many vicodin per day! Do you have any clue about the amount of tylenol (acetomentaphen) that is in those pills?? Do you know how toxic they are to the liver? Your liver will be destroyed and you will die from a tylenol overdose before you die from any opiate overdose.
Percocets have a lot of tylenol too.
THE AVG ADULT should never take more than 4000-5000 mg of tylenol per day. If I take 5000 mg of it within 24 hours I begin to throw up and get toxic poisoning from the tylenol. Granted, most addicts that take 20 pills, each vicodin on avg having 500 mg acetometaphen (CHECK YOUR PILL BOTTLE), that's 10,000 mg of tylenol a DAY, double the toxic avg adult dose! - granted, as an addict you work your way up to a dose that high, so your liver may be compensating and all that, but keep in mind you are blasting it into death.
Combine it with alcohol and you will likely die. Right there. No kidding!
READ on acetometaphen poisoning... aka tylenol on the net. Or ask your dr or pharmacist. I was put in a ER hospital because I took too much tylenol once... taking tylenol PM to try to sleep through opiate WD pain. I was throwing up all over the place, bile everywhere. It was so terrible. Pounding headache, toxic feeling, inability to move.... it hits you suddenly and you can't turn back. You will have to go to an ER and they will have to stabalize your liver.
Percocets have a lot of tylenol too.
THE AVG ADULT should never take more than 4000-5000 mg of tylenol per day. If I take 5000 mg of it within 24 hours I begin to throw up and get toxic poisoning from the tylenol. Granted, most addicts that take 20 pills, each vicodin on avg having 500 mg acetometaphen (CHECK YOUR PILL BOTTLE), that's 10,000 mg of tylenol a DAY, double the toxic avg adult dose! - granted, as an addict you work your way up to a dose that high, so your liver may be compensating and all that, but keep in mind you are blasting it into death.
Combine it with alcohol and you will likely die. Right there. No kidding!
READ on acetometaphen poisoning... aka tylenol on the net. Or ask your dr or pharmacist. I was put in a ER hospital because I took too much tylenol once... taking tylenol PM to try to sleep through opiate WD pain. I was throwing up all over the place, bile everywhere. It was so terrible. Pounding headache, toxic feeling, inability to move.... it hits you suddenly and you can't turn back. You will have to go to an ER and they will have to stabalize your liver.
You want an easy way to detox from a short acting opiate (like vicodin, heroin, morphine, etc...). Try going to a licensed dr who can prescribe either SUBOXONE or SUBUTEX. This is the easiest and best way to withdrawal from an opiate.
The key to using it is you must be experiencing the beginning part of withdrawal. You cannot take it before then or it really hurts your system. I know from experience! It sucks! But if you take it at the correct time, it is a miracle drug! You will feel NO OPIATE WITHDRAWAL and be given energy and be feeling mostly normal, although if you are an addict you will be disappointed at how boring normal is at first and may have to adjust. You usually take about 5-7 days worth of this medicine (acitve ingredient: buprenorphine) and taper last two days. Then you are normal.
It is expensive. I have a supply always at the pharmacy for in case I get addicted again. Otherwise I will just find ways to stay addicted because I hate withdrawal pains so badly, like EVERYONE. I can't take them, the insomnia, the cold sweating, the chills, the nausea and then the huge increase in adrenaline....
You can get hooked on Suboxone/Subutex because it is an opiate itself. It isn't a rough wd, I've done it from suboxone once, and it was like 2-4 weeks of misery but not rapid or severe like heroin.
ALSO: To the original poster: If you are taking opiates because you can't get pot/weed, then I suggest relocating to a state where medical marijuana is LEGAL. It is legal where I live (CALIFORNIA) and I have a script. I can have great weed any time I want, although I don't like pot myself so I never have any. But they prescribe it for... OPIATE WD!! And also: harm reduction! And the pot is good, decent. I have used it to come off of my suboxone and it made it a lot easier. And I used it to come off of heroin once too, and it made it hella easier. So don't take vicodin in place of weed, take weed in place of vicodin! Your system will thank you! Withdrawals are rough on your system, every time you do it just is like a total system shock. People who relapse over and over like myself are causing themselves a lot of brain trauma.
It takes the brain about 90 days to recover back to a semi-working state after WD. It takes over a year to be 100% from drugs like methadone and oxycontin, which are both considered "long half life opioids" where heroin, hydrocodone, morphine are "short half life opioids." :-)
The key to using it is you must be experiencing the beginning part of withdrawal. You cannot take it before then or it really hurts your system. I know from experience! It sucks! But if you take it at the correct time, it is a miracle drug! You will feel NO OPIATE WITHDRAWAL and be given energy and be feeling mostly normal, although if you are an addict you will be disappointed at how boring normal is at first and may have to adjust. You usually take about 5-7 days worth of this medicine (acitve ingredient: buprenorphine) and taper last two days. Then you are normal.
It is expensive. I have a supply always at the pharmacy for in case I get addicted again. Otherwise I will just find ways to stay addicted because I hate withdrawal pains so badly, like EVERYONE. I can't take them, the insomnia, the cold sweating, the chills, the nausea and then the huge increase in adrenaline....
You can get hooked on Suboxone/Subutex because it is an opiate itself. It isn't a rough wd, I've done it from suboxone once, and it was like 2-4 weeks of misery but not rapid or severe like heroin.
ALSO: To the original poster: If you are taking opiates because you can't get pot/weed, then I suggest relocating to a state where medical marijuana is LEGAL. It is legal where I live (CALIFORNIA) and I have a script. I can have great weed any time I want, although I don't like pot myself so I never have any. But they prescribe it for... OPIATE WD!! And also: harm reduction! And the pot is good, decent. I have used it to come off of my suboxone and it made it a lot easier. And I used it to come off of heroin once too, and it made it hella easier. So don't take vicodin in place of weed, take weed in place of vicodin! Your system will thank you! Withdrawals are rough on your system, every time you do it just is like a total system shock. People who relapse over and over like myself are causing themselves a lot of brain trauma.
It takes the brain about 90 days to recover back to a semi-working state after WD. It takes over a year to be 100% from drugs like methadone and oxycontin, which are both considered "long half life opioids" where heroin, hydrocodone, morphine are "short half life opioids." :-)
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