Ultram addiction is unfortunately quite common AND has been recognized for some time now. You probably should have tapered the Ultram and begun the Vicodin at the same time. Since you are at day 4 of no Ultram you might as well stay off it. Your symptoms will gradually go away. Beware of the Vicodin, it is at least as addictive as the Ultram. Do not take it every day for more than a week or two or you will become dependent. Try going without for at least a few days a week. Also, do not take more than directed. Good luck and hope you feel better soon.
John --- Beware! I'm not even sure what Ultram is, but I do know about Vicodin. The symptoms you described sounded exactly like what happened to my husband after being addicted to Vicodin when he withdrew from them. He did it 1st of January. First month was living ____. Praying for you tonight.
I have a question. Why does people get addicted to Vicadin? Why not loracet or norco? Why is it vicadins? I thought they were all the same? Am i incorrect. I really hope someone can answer my question please
John, BEWARE! You obviously have an addictive personality. I do, also and many others. The Vicoden is much more addictive. You actually get HIGH with Vicoden and with Ultram, you do not. Vicoden has led me down a long and dark path, as it has for countless others. Vicoden is just like heroin or cocaine. You get high...then you become immune to it and you end up having to take more and more to get the high. You feel bullet proof. TRUST ME, STAY AWAY FROM VICODEN. TRY SOMETHING ELSE. DO NOT ENTER MY HELL. DO NOT. TELL YOUR DOCTOR NO! Ask him to give you Vioxx, Relafen, Celebrex, do the exercises...whatever it takes. IF YOU WERE ADDICTED TO ULTRAM...YOU WILL BECOME ADDICTED TO VICODEN, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. Email me at ***@****
RD Vicodin is the brand name of the most popular form of hydrocodone. There are many different pills containing hydrocodone, Lorcet is simply 10mg vs. 5mg with Vicodin. All drugs containing hydrocodone are very addicting.
One of my patients awhile back suffered from chronic leg pain from an old injury. He came into treatment having been prescribed Xanax (for anxiety). For pain he had been prescribed Ultram and was taking these, but was also illegally obtaining ("Dr. Hopping") Darvocet and Vicodin and was taking large quantities of these also. He was quite addicted to these pain-killers and had a rough time during withdrawal. He also was diagnosed with Major Depression and had anxiety symptoms (had suffered from mood problems for years, even during periods of abstinence). Our program's Addiction Psychiatrist addressed the problem by first detoxing him off the Xanax, Ultram, Darvocets, and Vicodins. If I remember correctly, the detox protocol for the Benzo (the Xanax) involved a switch to Klonopin (longer half-life, better for withdrawal) with a week-long taper, and for Opiate withdrawal the patient was placed on Clonodine and tapered down as well. Since he was on an inpatient unit, many resources could be called upon and were utilized including: Physical Therapy and individual and group counseling. The patient's pharmacotherapy regimen soon consisted of: Zoloft (for depressive and anxious symptoms), combination Depakote & Voltaren (for chronic pain issues and mood stabilization), and Motrin (PRN) when he needed a little something extra for pain. After a couple weeks on this regimen, the patient stopped complaining and began to report effective pain-relief and that he was feeling good again. He had experienced a robust response. This is not the first time I have seen this Depakote or Neurontin + Voltaren combination work well for addicts with chronic pain issues. I suspect other combinations of anticonvulsant/mood stabilizers and NSAID class meds could be effective also for the addict patient suffering chronic pain.
I was hooked on both xanax and ultram at the same time.When i finally realized I had a problem I talked to my doctor and he started to taper me off of them. It was not an easy road. I was on both of them for 3 years, for chronic headaches and anxiety attacks.Getting off the ultram made me feel like i had the flu, i had no energy and i was very CRANKY. The xanax was the real hard part i was up tp taking 4 (.5) milagrams a day when i started to taper off of those i started having more anxiety attacks, my train of thought was not there, I work with numbers everyday and I would see the numbers in reverse. i had very dry mouth and i would sweat a lot, i also had a lot of crying episodes. What i did was went to my local pharmacy and talked to my pharmacist, i ended up buying an herb called kava-kava that helped my symptoms a lot. I told myself after one bottle of that i would no longer need anything. With a lot of praying and a lot of support from my family i was free of addiction. I hope you can get the support you need.
I just read a study that came out of Norway that demonstrated that taking T.I.D. doses of Kava Kava was better than Benzodiazepine over something like a 6-month period for treatment of anxiety symptoms. Of course, this was just one study I have come across, but also seems to be a lot of anecdotal information out there about Kava Kava effectiveness in treatment of anxiety symptoms.
I too have notied that ultram can be very hard to refuse espiecially when you are trying to deal with alot of pain.Ihave alot of problems with my neck and back and when the doctors prescribe ultram I find myself feelling very uneasy about running out.
What you are experiencing is symptomatic of Ultram addiction. Although Ultram is not a narcotic, it binds to the same receptors and actually has a more difficult withdrawal. Beware.
are you a doc????? or do you just like to run your mouth like one;.;.just jokin, how the hell does anyone get ''addicted to ultram?? I took 8 of them a day for maby a week befor i made the doc give me a real med, they dont do anything to you so what is there to get addicted to? I can understand geting addicted to oxycodone , morphine, benzo's and meds like that because they are relaxing and get you high and all, but I think all this ultram addiction **** is way over done,
Imus, are you an ass or just run your mouth like one? just kidding, ultram might not do anything for someone who does a bunch of drugs, it's all in the tolerance levels.
You are quite right when you say that for someone used to strong opiates, Ultram feels like it has no effect (and certainly no high). This does not make it non-addictive, and if you don't believe me, do a search on the internet and you will see postings from many people addicted to Ultram and having terrible withdrawal.
No I believe you, I have seen all the post on the net about ultram, I just couldent understand why.
dont keep takeing the vicodin throw them away i have been on vicovinES for 3 years and i am very addicted to them i still take them and wonder where and when i can get some more i feel very depressed when im not on them and i cry alot i dont even know what to do myself i just know their very addicting and that when im not on them i really feel bad and i substitute it with whatever i can find get some help from your health dept for some counseling if you can good luck and may god bless you.
dont keep takeing the vicodin throw them away i have been on vicovinES for 3 years and i am very addicted to them i still take them and wonder where and when i can get some more i feel very depressed when im not on them and i cry alot i dont even know what to do myself i just know their very addicting and that when im not on them i really feel bad and i substitute it with whatever i can find get some help from your health dept for some counseling if you can good luck and may god bless you.
renee wrote;;
dont keep takeing the vicodin throw them away
i am very addicted to them i still take them
and wonder where and when i can get some more
well another hip-A-crit,
It is sad you have to make fun of an addict as down as Renee. She is saying that she is so addicted to Vicodin she hasn't been able to stop, and is trying to convince John not to get to the same state she is in. That's not hypocrital, it's warning him what lies ahead. And, by the way, people here could use some SUPPORT, which is why they come here. They aren't looking to be kicked while they are down. I don't know if you mean your posts to come across that way, but they do.
Hey Imus.... I bet you don't realize you're being insensitive when you resort to name calling. Alot of people here are suffering with drug dependence or struggling with family members who are messed up. Renee is not being a hypocrite, she's describing ADDICTION. Her statement was right in line with how an addcit thinks. She knows intellectually what to do, but physically and emotionally she hasn't found the strengh to do it YET. She is in a position to tell John what to do because she speaks from EXPERIENCE. Some people here need information and some supply it... but everyone needs SUPPORT. You, me, everyone !! Please.
I am a 25-year prescription narcotic junkie, and my experience with Ultram is that it felt exactly like a strong opiate the first few times I used it. After that, the effect faded and I (naturally) increased the dosage. This I strongly discourage. The effects of even a mild Ultram overdose are pretty bad, even a bit scary. I literally went out on my feet while walking across my patio, waking up flat on my back a few minutes later. I have no memory of falling or laying down, and that scared the **** out of me. Leave the stuff alone, fellow junkies.
As Warner Wolf says on the Imus in the morning show... If you took ultram, and thought it would give you a buzz.....YOU LOST!
There are some good points to be made with the use or misuse of persribed drugs,
I took myself off Zoloft by ignoring them last July
I was on them 5 yrs. sometimes up to 150 mg., but usually 50-75 mg. I began using them because I had a tremendous amount of anger which stemmed from letting someone at home in the home, walk all over me, and I felt that I could'nt confront the situation alone
After about 3 years I found myself right smack dab in the middle of a physical disaster, a drug addiction and a divorce from a 20+ yr marriage. Slowly and with LOTS of SUPPORT and thousands of dollars pissed away on everything...FOR WHAT?
I got thru all of it, and now as I look back to what I might have done differently It would be to stay on the doctors' orders, not do anything but what the dr orders.
I have chronic pain now to deal with and reading thru the notes that are listed here remind me though I have this problem it is miniscule to what it might easily become if I don't watch out. Addictions of all types are so difficult, and support has to be a priority for someone who is alone in their problems,( and most of us are alone, right? ) Like the 12 steps say DEAL WITH THE PAIN
Admit the problem to another and you need someone bigger than you are to overcome, and stand alone without it UNLESS YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT
Great site, thanks for being here!
I am very addictied to Ultram. The doctors even offer me Vicodon and I refuse and lie to them saying no I'd rather have something that doesn't get me so loaded. I love the feeling I get from them. I kind of have a sence of well being and a whole lot of energy, but if I stop and lie down I go into a euorphoric sleep which I wake from every half hour or so. When I run out, I go through terrible withdrawls. Flu like. Very aggitated and depressed. I tell myself I will never take them again but think after a month that I must be okay and go get more. Been doing this for a year now. I'm pretty scared about the whole thing. I really want to be drug free. Oh, I take them for cronic back pain.
I am very addictied to Ultram. The doctors even offer me Vicodon and I refuse and lie to them saying no I'd rather have something that doesn't get me so loaded. I love the feeling I get from them. I kind of have a sence of well being and a whole lot of energy, but if I stop and lie down I go into a euorphoric sleep which I wake from every half hour or so. When I run out, I go through terrible withdrawls. Flu like. Very aggitated and depressed. I tell myself I will never take them again but think after a month that I must be okay and go get more. Been doing this for a year now. I'm pretty scared about the whole thing. I really want to be drug free. Oh, I take them for cronic back pain.