Ultram Withdrawl

[mrbobby]

I have been abusing Ultram for the past 5 years, and am up to maybe 10 pills a day. I have tried to stop b4 but have such terrible withdrawl sx. that I don't want to go through that again, so are there any suggestions as to how i can avoid the w/d sx. Can I taper, add any natural supplements to my taper, etc. Please help.

[ldjohn]

I agree with Goldie as far as the anti-depressant and it is different from the opiates like vicodin.  I can actually function pretty well taking 10-20 ultram a day.  It is amazing how much I can do. My husband calls them speed pills.  I wonder if that is true.  I never had as much energy with other painkillers like Ultram.

I have alot of hope to quit this drug but get disgusted because I had a good reason to take them in the beginning. I want to do it like the guy who went to the pharmacy every day but if I told my doctor I was taking up to 30 pills a day, I think he would be mad to say the least.

I did go through withdrawal over a 5 day period but I prepared myself for the worst and used Xanax (jumping from frying pan into the fire, but Xanax is not my drug of choice so I know when I wean off, it won't be too bad).  Anyway, ultram has this hold over me and I hear it in these many postings.

I want to keep using it but under control and in moderation.  Is that possible?  Anyone try Acupuncture or the suboxone way?  

Thanks for the words of wisdom, Goldie.
ldjohn

[theGolden1]

Geesh ... I just read my post from last night. Sorry to get so
dramatic, but it irks me when I realize how many people are getting "taken" by the drug companies.

Maury ... You have a great idea for getting on top of the monster. (vicodin) If your wife is supportive, you can scale down to a small dose and quit in due time. Read all you can here and NEVER give up on yourself. Let me tell you .... if I was on vikes, I'd be free by now. That drug is alot more "mental" and causes cravings, etc. but ... the kick is 5 days. You will feel "down" for a month after ... but when you start feeling like your old self again you'll be a happy man (smile) I had to take vicodin for surgery about 3 years ago and it was tough realizing it was time to call it a day. I was able to cut down and finally quit. As soon as I got over it, I needed more surgery. That time I took the vicodin for 3 days post OP and stopped before the insanity started. My rheumatologist put me on ultram for fibromyalgia .... but I don't think I need it anymore and I want to try to live without drugs in my body. I hope it's not a pipe dream ...

Lisa ... You sound very motivated and I am happy for you. One of the guys here said that overcoming addiction is a marathon and not a sprint. Truer words were never spoken. Think long term and "You go girl!" .... luv, Goldie

[handy]

I cant believe I found a place like this. Thank you everybody.
It feels good to talk to people that understand the happy/death pills. I havequit all the street drugs in the past and never had a problem kicking them like this ****. I know I can win after reading these posts and I think it may save my life. I own my own contracting buissiness and have wondered how sucesful I could really be without the pills. I thank you all again and will probly be posting again when the bugs are crawling outof my skin. After I posted yesterday my wife and daughter got home. I was a lunatic. I got a call from my inlaw she just happened to have some pilss andwould I likethem I sHouted out to my wife I had to go get drugs.( she is not a pill popper) she was stunned that I was so agitated .I broke down and told her I needed help but would need somthing NOW .She said go get them and so I did.
Just letting her know my secret made everthing seem so much more possible. Sorry  went on so long but all your posts gave me the power to try again. I will pull for all of you also.
   Adious aMIGOSE

[greeneyed girl]

HI THERE TO EVERYONE. THIS IS ONLY MY 2ND TIME VISITING THE SITE, AND AS I READ YOUR POSTS, MANY QUESTIONS POP INTO MY HEAD THAT I AM HOPING MAYBE SOME OF YOU CAN CLEAR UP. I HAVE BEEN ADDICTED TO VICODIN AND MANY OTHER PAIN KILLERS OFF AND ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND AM NOW AT THE POINT THAT IT HAS TAKEN OVER MY LIFE AND I AM DESPERATLEY WANTING TO GET MY LIFE BACK, AND QUIT THIS VICIOUS CIRCLE. I POSTED A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, ONLY TO BE SOMEWHAT VERBALLY WHIPPED BY ANOTHER PERSON IN THE FORUM, THAT COMPLETLY DISCOURAGED ME AT THE LOWEST TIME OF MY LIFE. BUT AFTER DECIDING I WOULDNT POST EVER AGAIN, I REALIZE THAT ONE PERSON DOESNT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, AND THAT THIS IS REALLY A GREAT PLACE TO GET AND GIVE SUPPORT, WHICH IS WHAT WE ALL NEED, INCLUDING ME.(SORRY, I AM RAMBLING) MY DOSES OF VICS ARE VERY HIGH, FOR ME(EVERYONES BODY IS DIFFERENT) AND I HAVE TRIED CT MANY TIMES, ONLY TO GIVE IN, ONCE THE RESTLESS LEG THING STARTED IN. ACTUALLY I DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WAS AT ALL UNTIL I FOUND THIS SITE, SO THANK YOU TO THOSE THAT MADE ME REALIZE THAT THAT IS PART OF WD. I HAD ONLY TOLD TWO PEOPLE THAT I HAD THIS PROBLEM AND THEY WERE SHOCKED, AND I HAVE FELT SO ISOLATED AND ALONE, COMING TO THE GRIPS THAT I HAVE ALMOST ACCIDENTALLY OD-ED A COUPLE OF TIMES(ON VICS) AND THAT I HAD TO GET ALL THE HELP I COULD TO DETOX. THE MOST FRIGHTENEING PART WAS THAT I ONLY HAVE TWO VICS LEFT(I USUALLY TAKE 8-10 DAY)SO IT IS DO OR DIE, SO TO SPEAK. I REACHED OUT AND CALLED A FAMILY MEMBER AND I AM GOING IN TWO DAYS TO DETOX---CT, AND I AM SCARED TO DEATH.I HAVE GOTTEN ALOT OF SUPPORT(OTHER THAN THE ONE ANGRY SOUL-THATS OK THOUGH) FROM THIS FORUM, AND WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. BUT I ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. MY DOC GAVE ME SOME ULTRA-CET, WHICH, WHEN I LOOKED IT UP-IS TRAMADOL HCL PLUS ACET(MY POOR LIVER). I THOUGHT ABOUT TAKING THOSE TO GET THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS BECAUSE I DONT HAVE ENOUGH VICS TO DO ANYTHING.ONE THING THE DRUG BOOK SAID WAS THAT WHEN SWITCHING OPIATE PAINKILLER TO ULTRACET, THAT IS CAN INDUCE AND INTENSIFY OPIATE WITHDRAWEL SYMPTOMS----DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE? ARE THEY AN ANTI-DEPRESSANT? WHY DO DOCS GIVE THIS DRUG INSTEAD OF NARCOTIC PAIN KILLERS, AND CAN I USE THEM TO GET ME THROUGH THE NEXT TWO DAYS TILL I START DETOX? SAFELY? ALSO, I SEE A REFERENCE IN THE THOMAS RECIPE FOR DETOX, THAT SAYS TO ONLY USE XANAX IF LAST RESORT? WHY? LOTS OF BAD COMMENTS ABOUT XANAX WITH DETOX, OR IN GENERAL, AND THAT IS ALL I COULD GET FOR THIS....SOMEONE PLEASE HELP QUICK, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. OH, WORRIED ABOUT ULTRACET CUZ I HAVE TO DRIVE LONG DISTANCE AND MY LOVED ONE DOESNT WANT ME TO GO THRU WD DRIVING, AND I DONT WANT TO TAKE ULTRACET WITH OUT KNOWING THE DANGERS, OR SIDE EFFECT, CAN SOMEONE FILL ME IN ON THIS DRUG AND XANAX FOR DETOX...THANKS SO MUCH. WAITING, READY, BUT SCARED AND FRANTIC, KNOWING TOMORROW I WILL ALREADY START TO FEEL WD...GREENEYES

[greeneyed girl]

SORRY-ME AGAIN-COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS,IF YOU DONT MIND. I HAVE A COUGH SYRUP-HISTEX HC-HAS 2.5HYDRO-WOULD THAT MAYBE BE BETTER UNTIL I CAN GET TO DESTINATION. ALSO, I READ HERE THAT QUITTING XANAX CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS, TO ONLY TAPER-IS THAT TRUE. I HAVE .25XANAX- I DONT EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE TO PRODUCE SLEEP. ANY IDEAS? PLEASE CAN YOU GIVE ME ALL OF YOUR INFO ON XANAX IN GENERAL, AND ULTRACET, AND THE HISTINEX HC? WILL REALLY NEED HELP BY TOMARROW...ANYONE KNOW IF I CAN TAKE THE XANAX AND THE OTHERS TOGETHER TO GET ME TO MY STARTING POINT? DONT WANT TO ACCIDENTLY MIX TOO MUCH ON THE WAY TO DETOX. BY THE WAY, THE DETOX IS NOT INPATIENT. LOVED ONE IS MEDICAL PROFFESION AND HAS BEEN A DETOX NURSE. SO WE ARE DOING THIS AT HER HOUSE SO KEEP THIS OFF THE INS AND PRIVATE. THANKS AGAIN........GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU...I EMPATHIZE AND PRAY THAT YOU WILL SUCCEED....

[mrbobby]

Thanks Goldie, and I will try, but I need some more advice how should I begin my taper, how many per day over how long, I am now up to about 10 a day.