Ultram Withdrawl

[mrbobby]

I have been abusing Ultram for the past 5 years, and am up to maybe 10 pills a day. I have tried to stop b4 but have such terrible withdrawl sx. that I don't want to go through that again, so are there any suggestions as to how i can avoid the w/d sx. Can I taper, add any natural supplements to my taper, etc. Please help.

[animalsrme]

Thanks for responding. I was wondering if I can take Vic's with Ultram yes. Why do you say there is no point in taking both?
I dont want to go off the Vic's, but would like to cut down and was confused as to taking both and having WD symptoms. I havent taken any Vic's this morning,in place of them I took an Ultram 50mg and about 3 hours later took another. I want to take a Vic to get the "get up and go" feeling. I guess I want to know if I can take both within a short period of time and it be ok, without the Ultram triggering WD ( this is what I heard it can do if you are addicted to Vic's ). Thanks again for responding to my questions!!!! animalsrme

[Thomas03]

It's generally not a good idea to mix two drugs of the same class, in this case, opiate agonists. You might at least check around a bit to see if there are any warnings specifically about combining Vics and Ultram. I know some chronic pain patients use a time release opiate med such as OxyContin and add Vicodin for breakthrough pain episodes. BTW, I've never heard that Ultram would throw a Vic user into withdrawal. If anything, I'd assume the opposite. Some pain meds, such as Talwin, are both narcotic agonists and antagonists. The antagonist action of Talwin can cause withdrawal symptoms in someone dependant on opiates, such as Vicodin. But Ultram is described on Rxlist.com as an opiate agonist. It shouldn't cause withdrawal in someone dependant on Vics.

One thought: If you really want to evaluate Ultram for your condition, taking it with Vicodin is not going to give you a clear idea of how it makes you feel. You'll only learn what the combination does for you. Why don't you try the Ultram for a couple days without the Vics? Many people say that Ultram energizes them like other opiates.

Thomas

[animalsrme]

Hey thanks Thomas you are very insightful on this subject and I appreciate the input, Thanks!!! There is a few places I read that said if you are addicted to Hydro's and take Ultram that it can produce WD symptoms.I personally thought like you said that it would be the other way around, but after reading otherwise is what got me scarred to try Ultram. I did take already 100mg this morning and it did make me get the "rush". It is different than what I've experienced with the Hydro's, but kinda the same. I also was wondering how many mg would be a normal dose for a 24 hour period? My Dr. wrote out to take 1 to 2 a day, but he verbally told me if it works good for my pain I can up the dose to as many as it would take to control my pain...whatever that means!! LOL. I didnt ask him any questions about what he meant as I didnt know anything about Ultram until after I got the script and starting researching it. I was more conscerned with getting the Hydro's of course!!! But you are right I need to leave the Vic's alone (except to take enough so I dont go thru WD) to see if the Ultram work for me. Thanks

[animalsrme]

Hi I was wondering if anyone out there could answer a question for me. Iam addicted to vicodin for about 2 years now and my Dr. gave me a script for Ultram. I heard that if you are addicted to hydrocodone and take Ultram that it can produce withdrawl symptoms. I am afraid to take the Ultram cause I've been through the withrawel from Vicodin many times and dont want to go there again. Has anyone taken the Ultram with the Vic's? But on the other hand I have been hearing that the Ultram is great for taking the pain away and I suffer all the time with extreme back pain. So any feed back would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[animalsrme]

I posted a question about being addicted to Vic's and taking Ultram with it. I heard that it can make you have withrawel symptoms like from Vi's. Is this true as I want to try the Ultram but am afraid to do so unless someone can tell me it is ok. Please e-mail me at ***@****, or ***@****. Thanks, any info would be greatly appreciated

[Thomas03]

I'm not sure I understand: you want to take Ultram WITH Vicodin? At the same time? No point in that. Or do you mean, take Ultram instead of Vicodin? If you're addicted to Vicodin, switching to Ultram will help relieve withdrawal from the Vicodin, but won't cancel it out. Ultram works like an opiate, so longterm use can produce dependence. But it is a good pain killer. I felt it provided longer lasting pain relief than Vicodin.

Thomas