Ultram Withdrawl

[mrbobby]

I have been abusing Ultram for the past 5 years, and am up to maybe 10 pills a day. I have tried to stop b4 but have such terrible withdrawl sx. that I don't want to go through that again, so are there any suggestions as to how i can avoid the w/d sx. Can I taper, add any natural supplements to my taper, etc. Please help.

[vettezr1]

I was reading all the posts and thought of something.
1: Everyone would love to stop taking drugs and be pain and WD free.
2: If that was the case why bother to stop, you could just use when you wanted and then stop, no big deal.
3: I feel your pain (really), I went through tottal WD from IV morphine CT after a long peroid of use.
4: It sucked more than a hot poker up the rear, but thats not a bad thing really becuase although I never thought I abused my meds I did become addicted.
5: Its been a few weeks the first week was pretty tough but I lived.
6: And this is my most important point, I will never take this **** again. Pain free would be great but it aint gonna happen without a price to pay, to damn high a price.
So some here say taper and some say cold turkey, I tried to taper and doc said I just prolonged my suffering and I agree so I just said **** it and stopped.
7: I can not address the craving part thank God I have none.
But there is a wealth of knowledge here and some can help with that.
As bad a you feel going through WD I have to ask how bad will you feel if you keep taking the pills?
Good luck.

[Olin]

We all look for the least painful approach and the only one that exist if you've got the money is ultra rapid detox. But you waisting your 5-7 grand if you don't have the naltrexone implant done every 2 months for at minimum of a year and for those of you who go through detox the old fashion way the implant will increase your chances of staying clean and aid in the speed of physical recovery. have it done as soon as you sstart to get the slightest bit better which means your system is clean and starting to produce neurotransmiters again. The natrexone pellet implant cost but is worth it in the amount it cuts cravings if you can't aford the implant ask about taking it orally but you've got to take it. Recovery is up to you and no one will ever quit if they don't truly want it in heart body mind and soul.

[emmy22]

I think i can offer you some advice on tapering. I have been addicted to painkillers off and on, but pretty much on, for about 5 years. it started when i was sixteen, and i was depressed at boarding school, and when i came home it escalated from there. let me start by saying that this is ONLY MY OPINION, and there are many options for withdrawing. i tried to taper about a year ago, and it was horrible. first of all, you HAVE to be very disciplined, and it is hard when you have that bottle of pills sitting there waiting to be swallowed. When a bad day arises, it is VERY EASY to think "i'll just take one extra, and then go back to tapering". Second of all, it prolongs the withdrawals. if you taper over, say, a month, then you will have some sort of withdrawals for that whole month. granted, they wont be as strong as cold turkey, but they will last for as long as you are tapering. If you go cold turkey, the worst should be over in three to four days, and the rest will be the mental addiction. When i went cold turkey, i took my last pill on a thursday morning (so the worst part of withdrawals would be over the weekend when i didnt have school or work). Thursday was kind of rough, and thursday night the restless leg syndrome kicked in. that is when you feel like you are so anxious and you have to keep stretching. could not sleep that night. friday i was very anxious, diarrhea, just felt like ****, but i got through work knowing i had the whole weekend to try and recover. friday night was horrible. couldnt sleep. anyway, by monday the worst of the withdrawal was gone. still a little anxious, but slept about four hours. hot baths REALLY DO Work with the restless leg thing. live in the bath for the weekend if you have to. rent lots of movies to take your mind off it. nyquil helps you sleep, and immodium works wonders for diarrhea. But definetely try to quit on a thursday, so you have the weekend, or if you have vaca time, take it. if you have any questions then write back...be happy to share with you. I just want to emphasize that im not a doctor, and im not an expert, just writing what worked for me for a 5-6 a day codeine and hydro habit. take care and good luck...ill pray for you. god does not let anything happen in our lives that we cannot handle. you can do this.

[theGolden1]

I wish people would realize that ultram is NOT a regular opiate and has a much longer withdrawal period. There is no way that you are going to take a "weekend" and get clean. Ultram is different than any other drug including methadone. It is an antidepresant and it mimicks an opiate by affecting the same receptors in the brain. Two drugs for the price of one. Double trouble ...
Tapering from vicodin or morphine will actually prolong the withdrawal. It is wise to do a quick taper from the opiates(5 days of down dosing) and then stop the opiate. Use the Thomas receipe. For Ultram (tramadol) I recommend cutting the dose a 1/4 of a tab every 2 weeks. You will need to use tramadol and a pill cutter. Withdrawal will be almost nothing ... vague and fleeting. As you get closer to being drug free, you may need to stretch it out for 3 weeks. You have to take care of yourselves. Good nurishing food, filtered water and a low dose vitamin B. Build up your health. Stop for a minute and just taste one of the pills you are swallowing. That's what poison tastes like.
I am tapering again tommorrow, and if I keep going, I will be free in about 2 1/2 months .... now that turns me on! I am very determined and with God's help I will make it. I don't want to go on a different drug. When this is over, they can take their drugs and shove em ... some nerve the drug companies have! Lying about their products and creating dependency in unsuspecting people. They told me this medication was NOT addictive and a little stronger than an aspirin. I want my soul back ...and I will be victorious ... power to the people! ***@****

[sabian]

Ultram is just a *****, anyway you lok at it.  When I have been out of oxy's in the past, Ultram would keep the WD's to a minimal.  I've heard that if you take too many Ultram at one time, you can have seizures.  Be careful and try to wean yourself slowly.  Good Luck!
SABIAN

[handy]

I was given 40 or 80 ultram a week along with percocets for about 4 months for after care for pancreatitus. I had no pain but loved the drugs. Have all my life. I finaly got sick of how easy it was to just pick up the phone and go get my drugs..Anyhow
I got off the stuff by calling my docter I layed it all out , how I abused the stuf and that I was a wreck. They asked how much a day I was taking. I told them 10 ultram a day and so they called me in 10 ultrams. the next day I called back and they gave me 9 and so on till I picked up one and I was done no sweat.
you do feel like a fool tho, everyday going to the pharmacy for your fix but they were cool and knew I was tryin to get off. That was wonderful to be free. Not for long tho since then I have quit vicodin twice the hard way. I am trying right now as we speak.
My bro inlaw is outa town and has a bunch of 10 mil vicos. He will be back tommoroe and  know I am going to go see him. So all this pain last night and today is going to be wasted. I think I will give a bunch to my wife and have her help me taper off. Why cant a person just be happy without this ****?
                       maury

[ldjohn]

I agree with Goldie as far as the anti-depressant and it is different from the opiates like vicodin.  I can actually function pretty well taking 10-20 ultram a day.  It is amazing how much I can do. My husband calls them speed pills.  I wonder if that is true.  I never had as much energy with other painkillers like Ultram.

I have alot of hope to quit this drug but get disgusted because I had a good reason to take them in the beginning. I want to do it like the guy who went to the pharmacy every day but if I told my doctor I was taking up to 30 pills a day, I think he would be mad to say the least.

I did go through withdrawal over a 5 day period but I prepared myself for the worst and used Xanax (jumping from frying pan into the fire, but Xanax is not my drug of choice so I know when I wean off, it won't be too bad).  Anyway, ultram has this hold over me and I hear it in these many postings.

I want to keep using it but under control and in moderation.  Is that possible?  Anyone try Acupuncture or the suboxone way?  

Thanks for the words of wisdom, Goldie.
ldjohn

[theGolden1]

Geesh ... I just read my post from last night. Sorry to get so
dramatic, but it irks me when I realize how many people are getting "taken" by the drug companies.

Maury ... You have a great idea for getting on top of the monster. (vicodin) If your wife is supportive, you can scale down to a small dose and quit in due time. Read all you can here and NEVER give up on yourself. Let me tell you .... if I was on vikes, I'd be free by now. That drug is alot more "mental" and causes cravings, etc. but ... the kick is 5 days. You will feel "down" for a month after ... but when you start feeling like your old self again you'll be a happy man (smile) I had to take vicodin for surgery about 3 years ago and it was tough realizing it was time to call it a day. I was able to cut down and finally quit. As soon as I got over it, I needed more surgery. That time I took the vicodin for 3 days post OP and stopped before the insanity started. My rheumatologist put me on ultram for fibromyalgia .... but I don't think I need it anymore and I want to try to live without drugs in my body. I hope it's not a pipe dream ...

Lisa ... You sound very motivated and I am happy for you. One of the guys here said that overcoming addiction is a marathon and not a sprint. Truer words were never spoken. Think long term and "You go girl!" .... luv, Goldie

[handy]

I cant believe I found a place like this. Thank you everybody.
It feels good to talk to people that understand the happy/death pills. I havequit all the street drugs in the past and never had a problem kicking them like this ****. I know I can win after reading these posts and I think it may save my life. I own my own contracting buissiness and have wondered how sucesful I could really be without the pills. I thank you all again and will probly be posting again when the bugs are crawling outof my skin. After I posted yesterday my wife and daughter got home. I was a lunatic. I got a call from my inlaw she just happened to have some pilss andwould I likethem I sHouted out to my wife I had to go get drugs.( she is not a pill popper) she was stunned that I was so agitated .I broke down and told her I needed help but would need somthing NOW .She said go get them and so I did.
Just letting her know my secret made everthing seem so much more possible. Sorry  went on so long but all your posts gave me the power to try again. I will pull for all of you also.
   Adious aMIGOSE

[greeneyed girl]

HI THERE TO EVERYONE. THIS IS ONLY MY 2ND TIME VISITING THE SITE, AND AS I READ YOUR POSTS, MANY QUESTIONS POP INTO MY HEAD THAT I AM HOPING MAYBE SOME OF YOU CAN CLEAR UP. I HAVE BEEN ADDICTED TO VICODIN AND MANY OTHER PAIN KILLERS OFF AND ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND AM NOW AT THE POINT THAT IT HAS TAKEN OVER MY LIFE AND I AM DESPERATLEY WANTING TO GET MY LIFE BACK, AND QUIT THIS VICIOUS CIRCLE. I POSTED A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, ONLY TO BE SOMEWHAT VERBALLY WHIPPED BY ANOTHER PERSON IN THE FORUM, THAT COMPLETLY DISCOURAGED ME AT THE LOWEST TIME OF MY LIFE. BUT AFTER DECIDING I WOULDNT POST EVER AGAIN, I REALIZE THAT ONE PERSON DOESNT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, AND THAT THIS IS REALLY A GREAT PLACE TO GET AND GIVE SUPPORT, WHICH IS WHAT WE ALL NEED, INCLUDING ME.(SORRY, I AM RAMBLING) MY DOSES OF VICS ARE VERY HIGH, FOR ME(EVERYONES BODY IS DIFFERENT) AND I HAVE TRIED CT MANY TIMES, ONLY TO GIVE IN, ONCE THE RESTLESS LEG THING STARTED IN. ACTUALLY I DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WAS AT ALL UNTIL I FOUND THIS SITE, SO THANK YOU TO THOSE THAT MADE ME REALIZE THAT THAT IS PART OF WD. I HAD ONLY TOLD TWO PEOPLE THAT I HAD THIS PROBLEM AND THEY WERE SHOCKED, AND I HAVE FELT SO ISOLATED AND ALONE, COMING TO THE GRIPS THAT I HAVE ALMOST ACCIDENTALLY OD-ED A COUPLE OF TIMES(ON VICS) AND THAT I HAD TO GET ALL THE HELP I COULD TO DETOX. THE MOST FRIGHTENEING PART WAS THAT I ONLY HAVE TWO VICS LEFT(I USUALLY TAKE 8-10 DAY)SO IT IS DO OR DIE, SO TO SPEAK. I REACHED OUT AND CALLED A FAMILY MEMBER AND I AM GOING IN TWO DAYS TO DETOX---CT, AND I AM SCARED TO DEATH.I HAVE GOTTEN ALOT OF SUPPORT(OTHER THAN THE ONE ANGRY SOUL-THATS OK THOUGH) FROM THIS FORUM, AND WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. BUT I ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. MY DOC GAVE ME SOME ULTRA-CET, WHICH, WHEN I LOOKED IT UP-IS TRAMADOL HCL PLUS ACET(MY POOR LIVER). I THOUGHT ABOUT TAKING THOSE TO GET THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS BECAUSE I DONT HAVE ENOUGH VICS TO DO ANYTHING.ONE THING THE DRUG BOOK SAID WAS THAT WHEN SWITCHING OPIATE PAINKILLER TO ULTRACET, THAT IS CAN INDUCE AND INTENSIFY OPIATE WITHDRAWEL SYMPTOMS----DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE? ARE THEY AN ANTI-DEPRESSANT? WHY DO DOCS GIVE THIS DRUG INSTEAD OF NARCOTIC PAIN KILLERS, AND CAN I USE THEM TO GET ME THROUGH THE NEXT TWO DAYS TILL I START DETOX? SAFELY? ALSO, I SEE A REFERENCE IN THE THOMAS RECIPE FOR DETOX, THAT SAYS TO ONLY USE XANAX IF LAST RESORT? WHY? LOTS OF BAD COMMENTS ABOUT XANAX WITH DETOX, OR IN GENERAL, AND THAT IS ALL I COULD GET FOR THIS....SOMEONE PLEASE HELP QUICK, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. OH, WORRIED ABOUT ULTRACET CUZ I HAVE TO DRIVE LONG DISTANCE AND MY LOVED ONE DOESNT WANT ME TO GO THRU WD DRIVING, AND I DONT WANT TO TAKE ULTRACET WITH OUT KNOWING THE DANGERS, OR SIDE EFFECT, CAN SOMEONE FILL ME IN ON THIS DRUG AND XANAX FOR DETOX...THANKS SO MUCH. WAITING, READY, BUT SCARED AND FRANTIC, KNOWING TOMORROW I WILL ALREADY START TO FEEL WD...GREENEYES

[greeneyed girl]

SORRY-ME AGAIN-COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS,IF YOU DONT MIND. I HAVE A COUGH SYRUP-HISTEX HC-HAS 2.5HYDRO-WOULD THAT MAYBE BE BETTER UNTIL I CAN GET TO DESTINATION. ALSO, I READ HERE THAT QUITTING XANAX CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS, TO ONLY TAPER-IS THAT TRUE. I HAVE .25XANAX- I DONT EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE TO PRODUCE SLEEP. ANY IDEAS? PLEASE CAN YOU GIVE ME ALL OF YOUR INFO ON XANAX IN GENERAL, AND ULTRACET, AND THE HISTINEX HC? WILL REALLY NEED HELP BY TOMARROW...ANYONE KNOW IF I CAN TAKE THE XANAX AND THE OTHERS TOGETHER TO GET ME TO MY STARTING POINT? DONT WANT TO ACCIDENTLY MIX TOO MUCH ON THE WAY TO DETOX. BY THE WAY, THE DETOX IS NOT INPATIENT. LOVED ONE IS MEDICAL PROFFESION AND HAS BEEN A DETOX NURSE. SO WE ARE DOING THIS AT HER HOUSE SO KEEP THIS OFF THE INS AND PRIVATE. THANKS AGAIN........GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU...I EMPATHIZE AND PRAY THAT YOU WILL SUCCEED....

[mrbobby]

Thanks Goldie, and I will try, but I need some more advice how should I begin my taper, how many per day over how long, I am now up to about 10 a day.

[lisa1466]

Hi.  I have also been "burned" by someone, but oh well, there's plenty of others to help you out.  I would not take the xanax, if possible.  I was addicted to it before and had terrible withdrawal symtoms.  I am now addicted to Ultram and very scared, but ready to get off the ****.  I don't know why the doctor would give you tramadol to get off of Vics?  The other thing is that I am just finding out that tramadol is an anti-depressant! I always thought it was a pain pill, but now find out differently.  It's all too confusing.  I wish I could help you out some, only that I know that xanax is addicting, especially if you continue to take it (like everything else right?).  I wish you the best of luck in detox.  two days doesn't seem like a very long time though, although I hope it helps you.  Please keep in touch and let me know if it helps you or not.

[harlem]

I was given ultram by the dr. i worked for at the time (2 yrs ago) for legitimate pain. i found that after about 1 month of taking it... i went thru massive withdrawals just trying not to take it. it has been 2 and a half years since the day i was given those pills and i am now doing illegal things to get the meds for myself. i got off for awhile about a yr ago and stayed that way but never felt comfortable in my own skin. you get to the point where you do not remember ever living w/out the feeling the pills give. you get to the point where when you think about living w/out that feeling, life seems not worth living. i have never and will never contemplate harming myself in any way but i have been slowly killing myself in every way by continuing to take this drug. my husband just found my last few pills and to my surprise didn't take them away. i just took the last 4 i had and now have to deal w/ my mind tricking me into going to the pharmacy once again to obtain them. i am waiting for the police to knock on my door every day and that literally makes me sick. i have a 3 yr old who loves me so much and everytime i look at him and think about what i am doing and the possibility of getting arrested... i feel ill. but why isn't that stopping me?? i don't know. am i a bad person? no. i care more for others than i do about my own feelings. i just do not know what to do anymore.... i just thought i'd take the time out to vent. good luck to everyone going thru similar situations.
i will say that i went cold turkey the first time i quit the ultram and it hurt for 2 months. my body went thru hell and it was all my fault for not being smart enough to stop the pills sooner. it is a horrible drug being sold as a "non addictive" medicine... i am appauled at the idea of this blatant lie.

[greeneyed girl]

good morning, just got done reading the posts...thanks  for your comments. i am going to dt tomoroow, not for two days, i had to wait two days until i go..i will be gone for at least a week or two. i will not touch the ultracet. from what everyone writes about it, it almost sounds worse than the vicodin! and i may be wrong, but the wd sounds worse also. i am glad i didnt take them, so thanks for warning me. i am ashamed to say it, but i got some more vics yesterday, so i am feeling human again. i got enough to get me to my dt, and oddly enough, my dr told me he wouldnt fill my scripts anymore(after yesterday). if i was thinking more clearly i probably would have passed out from the shock, he has been giving me the monster for five years, and i have to wonder, why all of a sudden. he doesnt know about my problem, but you know when something like that happens, you know it isnt coincidence, so i guess i should be happy that i cant get anymore when i get back, but nevertheless, i am still freaked out about that. blessing in disquise? thnks for the warning about the xanax too, but it was all i could get to dt so i guess i will have to take my chances...what are the wd symptoms with xanax? to harlem...you are not a bad person-you are just like the rest of us, or me(i cant talk for anyone else)wanting help, needing someone to talk to, scared and wanting to get free from the grasp of the pills holding you hostage. i know just how you feel. i took them as prescribed for years, but as the pain from my past interupts my life and as i take care of everyone else, i started taking them to make me feel numb. i never really felt euphoric, or high(well sometimes i would if i took enough) but usually i took them just to not feel anything. theyre a good anesthetic, for me anyway, to make my life bearable. so dont be too hard on yourself, you are human, and sounds like you want to quit , and thats what counts. even as i get ready to go to detox with a family member(not impatient) i am scared to death, and cant imagine life without them. i actually still take them because my body is so used to them, that without them i feel wierd, when i first started i felt the opposite. do you know what i mean? well now, i am so addicted that just four to six hours without any and i go through terrible wd, but everyone is different. what led me to this forum was the fact that even though i never thought about harming myself on purpose, my doses were becoming so high, for so long that i was afraid i would accidentally od. so i reached out and found this place, thank god. i wish i could offer advice, but i am in the grips of the monster myself right now, and am even having second thoughts about going to dt. i am scared i wil lose my job and scared of wd and life without them. but i dont want to continue life like this, i cant keep up with the amounts i need to keep me ok, so i am forced, and know , that i must stop this before something really bad happens. hang in there, harlem, you are not alone. this place really helps me. i will pray for you, and thank god for all those that help here in this forum

[theGolden1]

Mr. Bobby ... Ultram is supposed to have a half-life of 8 hours.Opiates like vicodin have a half-life of 4 hours and methadone has a half-life of 15-30 hours. This means that after 8 hours half of the previous dose is out of your system. Eight hours later, it cuts in half again and continues. Ultram is metabolized in the kidneys so depending on well yours are working, you will hold the drug for longer or shorter periods.
I don't know how you are dosing ... but I can tell you what is working for me. The first thing I did was to adjust my dosing to 2x's a day. I was taking 4 a day. Two in the morning and 2 at dinner time. I then took 2 1/2 in the morning and 1 1/2 8 hours later. After a week I took 3 in the morning and 1 at dinner time.
Then I began to start lowering my dinnertime dose by 1/4 of a pill every 10 days to 2 weeks untill I eliminated the second dose. I was now taking 3 every morning and had to start lowering that dose. I lowered it 1/4 of a pill every 2 weeks. I am now on 2 1/4 every morning .... I am going to cut to 2 1/8. I went to 2, but I didn't feel good, so pulled back. I refuse to to "suffer" .... I was lied to and misled. I'd like to make them suffer .... I need to be able to function. I have a family and responsibility. I also take ambien for sleep. I 10 mil tablet. If sleeping becomes difficult at the end, I will increase the ambien. The doc gives me 2 per night, so I have a good stash. I hope this will help you in some way .... where are the doctors when we need them? I just got copies of my medical reports and my trusted doctor thinks I am a drugseeker. Isn't that a kick in the teeth? After this is over he can kiss my grits ... sorry to sound so bitter. If I don't keep a good attitude, I could relapse. Don't get "hungry, angry,lonely or tired" ... HALT. Another wonderful tool from the 12 step program .... gotta start reading my books again .... ***@****

[theGolden1]

Dear Harlem, is it possible that you can see a rheumatologist and get a legitimate script for ultram? I would start out my taper with a structured dosing schedule. Take what you absolutely need to feel normal. If you are taking it 3x's a day, that's ok to start with ... you are not a criminal! You may indeed have legitmate pain underneath all that ultram (I know I do) You do not need the mental stress of possibly "getting into trouble" ... make a plan and stick to it. But first, get a regular script. Calm down and pray ... take your husband to the doctor with you. Do what you have to do ... the doctors only know what the drug companies tell them. Unless they take ultram , they don't realize how dependant a person can become. Don't feel guilty. This has happened to thousands of people. You are so lucky to know the real deal .... good luck to you and your family .... Goldie

[theGolden1]

Sorry .... I forgot to say; tell the doctor that it works well for pain. Don't get into "confessing" ... you have pain and ultram works for you. They give 2 pills 4x's a day. It's only temporary. Tell the doctor anti-inflamatory drugs give you stomach cramps ...you can't take them. I hope it works out for you ... just trying to help

[harlem]

hey again! thanks to all for the advice and simply for taking care to write to me about all of this... i work for a dr. and another dr. happens to share his office. i am scared to death to even outrightly admit to how i get the prescriptions but you could prob. figure it out... i have done this so many times that i fear i could end up having the cops at my door once and for all to end this nightmare. i had one very very scary ordeal where the dr's office called me and left a message and for a week after- i was convinced they knew about my shady happenings and were confronting me about it. turns out it was about another issue but it was enuf at THAT time to scare the ever livin hell out of me. or so i THOUGHT. of course, after i knew i was in the clear, i turned right back to obtaining what i needed and doing it how i had done it so many times before. are ins. companies really privey to people who bring rx after rx in the pharmacy week after week? i don't know. i was started on ultram and now i am on ultracet. i wanna stop but i am literally not lying when i say i do not think i can.... i did quit cold once b/f but every day after was consumed w/ how i could get some more pills and by the years end, i had found my way... i feel so sick writing this. i look in my son's face and see how innocent and amazing he is and i wonder why that right there isn't enuf to jolt me out of this nightmare.
i do not approach any other dr. b/c it isn't that i need them now for any kind of real pain. it's just that when i stop, i get so ill... and depressed and hungry and tired... as we all go thru here! well, anyway, i am on my way to the pharmacy who's printer was messed up and told me it would be a few hours til i get the meds. i acted fine but inside all i can think is how bad i feel and how i am going to DIE if i walk back in and find myself in severe trouble. i guess i also wonder is there anyone else out there doing anything like me who really isn't a criminal or a monster and is just tunnel visioned- trying to keep from going down that long path of withdrawal... lord i hope someone else does these kinds of things... sorry for the babble.

[theGolden1]

it sounds like you don't believe in yourself and need "them" to stop you ... or you will never stop. Just read this board and you will see how many people did the same things to get thier drug of choice. I personaaly am glad it was ultram because I know how to get off of them without getting sick (WD) ... I have no mental craving as in opiates. I want to be natural and healthy if possible. And hey, I'll never know if I don't try. Harlem ... try to calm yourself and take a break to figure things out. Take your regular dose ... find some quiet time and make a plan. You don't want to have a WD just "happen" to you ... when you are not prepared. This may sound silly but what if we had a disaster or attack or whatever and we could not get our meds? We would all be hurtin big time! That's not for me ... I have a family that I love .... and they need me.
PS ... try to get tramadol. That ultracet is full of tylenol. You will so much better just changing to plain ultram. Good luck ... ***@**** (email me, I have a few more thoughts)

[animalsrme]

Hi I was wondering if anyone out there could answer a question for me. Iam addicted to vicodin for about 2 years now and my Dr. gave me a script for Ultram. I heard that if you are addicted to hydrocodone and take Ultram that it can produce withdrawl symptoms. I am afraid to take the Ultram cause I've been through the withrawel from Vicodin many times and dont want to go there again. Has anyone taken the Ultram with the Vic's? But on the other hand I have been hearing that the Ultram is great for taking the pain away and I suffer all the time with extreme back pain. So any feed back would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[animalsrme]

I posted a question about being addicted to Vic's and taking Ultram with it. I heard that it can make you have withrawel symptoms like from Vi's. Is this true as I want to try the Ultram but am afraid to do so unless someone can tell me it is ok. Please e-mail me at ***@****, or ***@****. Thanks, any info would be greatly appreciated

[Thomas03]

I'm not sure I understand: you want to take Ultram WITH Vicodin? At the same time? No point in that. Or do you mean, take Ultram instead of Vicodin? If you're addicted to Vicodin, switching to Ultram will help relieve withdrawal from the Vicodin, but won't cancel it out. Ultram works like an opiate, so longterm use can produce dependence. But it is a good pain killer. I felt it provided longer lasting pain relief than Vicodin.

Thomas

[animalsrme]

Thanks for responding. I was wondering if I can take Vic's with Ultram yes. Why do you say there is no point in taking both?
I dont want to go off the Vic's, but would like to cut down and was confused as to taking both and having WD symptoms. I havent taken any Vic's this morning,in place of them I took an Ultram 50mg and about 3 hours later took another. I want to take a Vic to get the "get up and go" feeling. I guess I want to know if I can take both within a short period of time and it be ok, without the Ultram triggering WD ( this is what I heard it can do if you are addicted to Vic's ). Thanks again for responding to my questions!!!! animalsrme