Vicodin, Dramamine,

[concerneddaugherinlaw]

My mother in law was taking 2 vicodin es along with 4 dramamine every 4 hours all day long.  The doctor has now diagnosed her with "chronic pain" and is giving her pain patches.  Will she still withdraw from the vicodin if she quits taking it?

[rodewc]

Dancin~

Thre is not ONE thing I have said in this e-mail yo you, that I have not said on the board. Here it is:

COPY:

hey Jude

I too follow both boards and am absolutely appalled at
how your bud, KAT49 (i think is her nick) attacked
Motz

I too am of the ilk that I dont get into cat/dog
fights, but she is totally outta line and i must admit
I am sorely tempted to do as we women say and "*****
slap her"

Motz posts on a # of addiction boards I frequent and
his honesty has helped me recover more than once.

One time, in my humboe opinion, you were sick
(hallucintaing even w/ a fever) and crawled Motz's ass
about Fiornal, when in fact Motz was on another
thread, and oxycontin thread

Later, you apoligized, and seemingly you and Motz saw
eye to eye, as you should. However, in your initial
"feverish out of line (due to fever) post" yr frien
CHEERED u on, in a most unlady like manner.

I think it would behoove you, in my MOST humble
opinion, to tell that "cult" following you have at
drugabuse.com that their responses to someone who
simoke has an opinion, like all assholes, that their
visious attacks were out of line.

Had I been motz, I woulda done more than he in his
response to your friend.

Like I said, I havent (yet) posted on drugabuse.com
but KAT needs a dressing dowm Firstly, she is wrong.
Secondly, she hasnt read Motz's words w/ an open mind.
He simply wants what is best for a kid (casey) who
could possibly be his own kids' ages.. THAT and for
someone not to waste money w/ online pharmacies. If
that is a crime, then perhaps I do not respect your
opinions as much as I thought.

I will look for your response to KAT and her nonsense
and drugabuse. I would post there myself, but I don't
think my words would mean ****. What you say, however,
she worships.

Motz has been posting on the boards I frequent for at
least a year, including my fave- medhelp.org.

I look forward to reading your words at drugabuse. I
feel sorry for a man who loves his family so.. an
cares for others to be taken to task like that. It
shouldnt bother me, but it does.

It is the second unwarranted stab KAT has taken at
him.. once after your motza ball post and one today.

Hope u get the  boook soon.. I am headed to the beach
(dont tell KAT.. she will say I am bragging about
being RICH)

ROFL


END PASTE

rwc~

(PS These "prior" comments are al on suport board at DA.com)

[rodewc]

I dont save books. Keep it, give it away, or trash it. It costs abut 5-6 dollars to mail. I have enough stuff lying around here.

I asked you to have yr bud (you named her, not I) tone it down. I would have asked the  same of others who bashed Motz on the board, but you knew this one poster. I didn't. I didn't know her, or any of the others in the "club."

Nor do I care to. She was aggressively rude to Motz w/o cause. Unless I missed it? To repeat: your friend was the only one, you and your friend, w/ whom I was acquaintated. Thus, the private plea to you. I see where your loyalties lie. Askew.

Maybe she has helped you as Motz helped me. I did not, however, attack your friend on an open forum; nor will I flame anyone.

The Frey book is moot. Keep it, trash it or give it away (as said). You wont see me posting on DA.com though. I have watched there long enough as the testimonilas here at medhelp.org can attribute: newcomers are not welcome. I lost count of how many said that here on This forum.

Shame.. but glad one group found an F thread. The F thread your friend chose to leave and lambast him (motz)

rwc~

[dancinginthedark]

Did I receive your email? Oh, you meant those that threw me into dry heaves of disgust?  Yes.  I'm trying to behave like an adult here & NOT respond to a pissing match,but hey, unlike you, I'm of the human persuasion.  I can tell you one oof your missives, sent direct to me, would ASSUREDLY get you banned from here. And worse.  DA does not ban ppl making me wonder why you find that site so loathesome that you'd actually frequent though refuse, according to your em, to participate.

I respect your opinion & sky high regard for Motz. But I wonder:  Why did you select Kat49 to thow to the lions, quite in public, while ignoring all the others who expressed your sentiments in a gentler tone, yet the same ilk as the very same time?  I can't speak for you but my deduction is this is one man who can stand up for himself.  

As pertains your initial attack, blackmail & saying I had a cult following.  Oh, yeah?  

Nonetheless, questions remain:  
*Where is your esteem/compassion in lieu of dealing with addicts?Could my compassion & understanding have had anything to do with it?
*What ever made you such an angry, vindictive *****?
And in lieu of the fact that I'm "cult leader" of a DA following, what are you leader of, after your freight train headed to Anger, U.S.A.  ??

Rodey, since I met you, I've thought nothing less than the world of you.  That is until you launched forth not once, but twice,  reams of vituperative, unsubstantiated assaults.  And you even tossed cowardice & blackmail into the mix.

I'm not shy about sharing my convictions & I canot & will not hide behind the veil of fear.  Instead, I believe when such occasions call for it, share one & share all.

And of course I'll mail back your book the moment I receive it.

Dancing in the Light

[peaz]

My mood swings take me hither and yon.....I''m either posting like a banshee or a close-mouthed Sphinx....LOL  Never a dull moment at our house...."Keep 'em guessing"; that's my motto!!  Anyway, I have recovered from my sponsor train wreck and all is well. Hope you can say the same, sweets.  Love ya--peazy

[lisabet]

rodewc - like you, I read the DA forum but never post; I remember the bashing Motz took. I've noticed a post or 2 from him here. If he helped you in your recovery, he's definitely someone special. Have fun with the pup (or) D.D.T.D.!!!...SMILE...

Hi peazy - glad to see ya posting a lot lately. Sounds like you're doing well.  Love ya, peaz; you too, rodewc.  Lisabet

[peaz]

I have seen you  refer to your pup previously.....did you say it was a pit bull?  I had a fawn colored one named "Jake". What a HELLUVAN animal...I loved him to bits.  We should swap dog stories but not take up room here.  I will reply to your long post above by email as I think that's where personal **** belongs.  So, man the inbox...Peazy