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Vicodin detox
I am addicted to Vicodin. I am currently taking between 100 and 150 mg. per day. I started taking it about two years ago after it was prescribed by a dentist and was pretty much using it recreationally on the weekends. I noticed that all day on Monday after a weekend of taking it I was horribly depressed. Needless to say my use escalated and I found more ways to get more pills.
I have tried to stop a couple of times before. I went through all of the physical symptoms which were horrible. The longest that I managed to stay off of Vicodin was about 3 weeks. Even though much of the physical **** was gone, I was still very, very depressed - even after a few weeks. That was the main thing that made me start using again. I just didn't feel like I could continue on with a normal life without the pills.
I really want to get off of these things, but I am terrified of not only the physical withdrawal symptoms, but the severe depression I know will be there. I went to the chemical dependency clinic at my health care provider yesterday. They have a 2 week day program, or 8 week evening program and use Clonodine (sp?) to help with the withdrawals. I can't take two weeks away, but am terified of the depression which pretty much makes me unable to function, at times suicidal. Is there something that I can take in addition to the Clonodine which with help with the suicidal depression?
I have tried to stop a couple of times before. I went through all of the physical symptoms which were horrible. The longest that I managed to stay off of Vicodin was about 3 weeks. Even though much of the physical **** was gone, I was still very, very depressed - even after a few weeks. That was the main thing that made me start using again. I just didn't feel like I could continue on with a normal life without the pills.
I really want to get off of these things, but I am terrified of not only the physical withdrawal symptoms, but the severe depression I know will be there. I went to the chemical dependency clinic at my health care provider yesterday. They have a 2 week day program, or 8 week evening program and use Clonodine (sp?) to help with the withdrawals. I can't take two weeks away, but am terified of the depression which pretty much makes me unable to function, at times suicidal. Is there something that I can take in addition to the Clonodine which with help with the suicidal depression?
STC:
welcome to the forum. there will always be room for just one more junky in here, so come on in. clonidine will help wtih some of the
symptoms of w/d. i wouould suggest you also check out Thomas's detox recipe. i my self use a varation of it and would be happy to
post it to you if you would like. i must stress you are among people exactly like you on this forum, so please keep posting as we
may be more help than you think....
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
welcome to the forum. there will always be room for just one more junky in here, so come on in. clonidine will help wtih some of the
symptoms of w/d. i wouould suggest you also check out Thomas's detox recipe. i my self use a varation of it and would be happy to
post it to you if you would like. i must stress you are among people exactly like you on this forum, so please keep posting as we
may be more help than you think....
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
Thank you for the response. I have to say that I immediately burst into tears after reading your reply. I think just having somebody actually say something about my problem gave me a huge feeling of relief, or connection, or something.
I would appreciate the information about this detox formula. I haven't stopped taking the pills yet, but just thinking about it I am already feeling depressed. I am so scared about doing this. I am totally confused about what to do.
Thank you again for the support. It is truly appreciated.
I would appreciate the information about this detox formula. I haven't stopped taking the pills yet, but just thinking about it I am already feeling depressed. I am so scared about doing this. I am totally confused about what to do.
Thank you again for the support. It is truly appreciated.
Whatever you do it won't be pleasant. I have detoxed off vics before and I was doing as much if not more. It was not nearly as bad this time detoxing off percs and oxycotin.
The only way I can get off these lil devils is cold turkey. I have no willpower substituting other drugs-always leads me back.
If I can bite the bullet, anybody can. I had suicidal thoughts in my first 3 days this time around, but I really want to beat it. I made myself stronger than those F-ing things. Think about it... you are depressed because you are not poisoning yourself anymore.
I am stronger than a pill, you are too. You need to tell yourself this and believe it. Be strong.
The only way I can get off these lil devils is cold turkey. I have no willpower substituting other drugs-always leads me back.
If I can bite the bullet, anybody can. I had suicidal thoughts in my first 3 days this time around, but I really want to beat it. I made myself stronger than those F-ing things. Think about it... you are depressed because you are not poisoning yourself anymore.
I am stronger than a pill, you are too. You need to tell yourself this and believe it. Be strong.
STC:
alright here is a list of supplements...you may have to var your
dosage...
2-4 grams L-Tyrosine
75 mg. chelated zink
one vitamen b-50 capsule
10 mg chelated manganese
50 mg chelated magnesium
1000 iu vitamin a
2 mg. copper.
do this regiment once a day. if you can, start several days before detoxing. while detoxing use copious quantityus of imodium for the runs. if you can get either valium or klonopin from a doctor (be careful as these can be addictive if used for too long). also bacloven (a neuro muscle relaxer) for leg cramps. (it will also help you sleep).
good luck and thankyou...i've been having troubles of my own. be-
fore i read your post, i was considering buying a pint of cabin still and a .40 glock, so i guess i owe you a thankyou.
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
alright here is a list of supplements...you may have to var your
dosage...
2-4 grams L-Tyrosine
75 mg. chelated zink
one vitamen b-50 capsule
10 mg chelated manganese
50 mg chelated magnesium
1000 iu vitamin a
2 mg. copper.
do this regiment once a day. if you can, start several days before detoxing. while detoxing use copious quantityus of imodium for the runs. if you can get either valium or klonopin from a doctor (be careful as these can be addictive if used for too long). also bacloven (a neuro muscle relaxer) for leg cramps. (it will also help you sleep).
good luck and thankyou...i've been having troubles of my own. be-
fore i read your post, i was considering buying a pint of cabin still and a .40 glock, so i guess i owe you a thankyou.
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
Thank you again. This information is great. It does seem odd, the thought of spending a lot of money on vitamins instead of Vicodin. Not my usual choice of pills. : )
I'm glad that we connected today. It sounds like your day is about as shitty as mine. If it helps any, I feel so much more confident about doing this. And so much more comforatble in the knowledge that there are other people like you who know what this is like.
I'm glad that we connected today. It sounds like your day is about as shitty as mine. If it helps any, I feel so much more confident about doing this. And so much more comforatble in the knowledge that there are other people like you who know what this is like.
Good luck man, you can do it....I am 4 day into cold turkey for 80-100mg vike a day for a couple of months. I've been pretty lucky that the physical side hasn't been too horrible and the depression is even begining to soften a bit...you can do it...like they said you are stronger than a pill and you are worth it
im on day 4 commin off years of oxycodone. im goin cold turkey also. ya know, a few years back, i started takin baclofen to get off oxy. it worked the very first dose. however, i got addicted to that too. tried to quit, got real sick. so--------take oxy again to get off baclofen. holy ****, what a vicious cycle. i know from the last time i quit(went 72 days) after a week, its a mind game. but the first week is a mutha fukker. good luck my friends---
tom
tom
After reading the multitude of posts (this site has been a goldmine of information) I went out and bought all of the recommended vitamins and supplements. It sounds like it is a good idea to start taking these prior to quitting (?).
I am still trying to figure out the logistics of quitting. Do I go through the chemical dependency program offered by my HMO (which sounds like it doesn't really address the physical aspects of withdrawal, quite honestly)? Should I try to contact a doctor directly and discuss the problem with him or her to see about getting more specific help? And then there's the problem of work. I have so many projects going on right now that it is just the worst possible time to be away.
Sorry for the rambling. Just needed to get these thoughts out into the open. Thanks to all for the posts.
I am still trying to figure out the logistics of quitting. Do I go through the chemical dependency program offered by my HMO (which sounds like it doesn't really address the physical aspects of withdrawal, quite honestly)? Should I try to contact a doctor directly and discuss the problem with him or her to see about getting more specific help? And then there's the problem of work. I have so many projects going on right now that it is just the worst possible time to be away.
Sorry for the rambling. Just needed to get these thoughts out into the open. Thanks to all for the posts.
Any withdrawals from opiates will cause physical withdrawals.
If you can find a doctor that will detox you it would be the best way to get off drugs.If you are like me ,I decided to do it myself.It cost me about 10 extra days but it worked.If your insurance lets you,you should contact your primary care doc.
He should know how to detox opiates.Don't cold turkey except as a no other choice thing.It really hurts when you decide it's
all over this time.The mindgames you will play will go away with the vitamins and having the balls to stop.I know,it came down to me either stopping or being a slave to a pill.Headgames!
Let me know what happens!Hang tuff!
bmac
If you can find a doctor that will detox you it would be the best way to get off drugs.If you are like me ,I decided to do it myself.It cost me about 10 extra days but it worked.If your insurance lets you,you should contact your primary care doc.
He should know how to detox opiates.Don't cold turkey except as a no other choice thing.It really hurts when you decide it's
all over this time.The mindgames you will play will go away with the vitamins and having the balls to stop.I know,it came down to me either stopping or being a slave to a pill.Headgames!
Let me know what happens!Hang tuff!
bmac
I agree about going to your primary care Doc and opening up...they can help a lot...Cold turkey is hard, but if you have to it is still worth it and better than the pills...
Does your employer have an EAP (Employee Assistance Proggram)lots of companies do and the employees don't always know...you should check. If they do, they will generally help you confidentially and your boss never has to be a part of it and nothing goes in your records....they just help facilitate you getting the other help you need by taking away the work worry.
My company has it...when I quit booze 15 years ago I used it and they never said a word...I was an entry level employee then, now I am a VP....you can trust them, what they do helps the company too, so its a good deal all around.
Stick with it man, you can do it. It is different for everyone but always hard...but you can make it and it is worth it
good luck
Does your employer have an EAP (Employee Assistance Proggram)lots of companies do and the employees don't always know...you should check. If they do, they will generally help you confidentially and your boss never has to be a part of it and nothing goes in your records....they just help facilitate you getting the other help you need by taking away the work worry.
My company has it...when I quit booze 15 years ago I used it and they never said a word...I was an entry level employee then, now I am a VP....you can trust them, what they do helps the company too, so its a good deal all around.
Stick with it man, you can do it. It is different for everyone but always hard...but you can make it and it is worth it
good luck
Here's an ironic story for you.
I work for a small company, a clock manufacturer, about 65 employees. I started out as an office manager and basically handled all "office" work, including human resources. About two years ago when the business was booming and the ecomony was great we hired an HR manager and I was able to move up. Well things have taken a downturn (not as bad for us as for some others, thankfully). We just let our HR manager go and I have been asked to hire and manage an office manager (at a much lower salary) to take over the basic HR duties. I accepted the role since it meant a raise for me. I am not going to be able to get anyone in very quickly so it seems I will be back to handling HR once again.
I guess I can focus my re-training on the EAP thing since we do have it. I suppose there is some comfort in knowing the level of confidentiality in doing whatever admin work is related on my own.
A question: With EAP, does someone step in and contact your workplace about your situation for you? If so, what do they tell them? My company is fairly close and I am friendly on a personal level with my boss, but I know he would not understand this problem. It would definitely affect his attitude towards me in the future.
Hey - thanks for the words. I am amazed at the support and wisdom I've gotten in a single day on this site.
I work for a small company, a clock manufacturer, about 65 employees. I started out as an office manager and basically handled all "office" work, including human resources. About two years ago when the business was booming and the ecomony was great we hired an HR manager and I was able to move up. Well things have taken a downturn (not as bad for us as for some others, thankfully). We just let our HR manager go and I have been asked to hire and manage an office manager (at a much lower salary) to take over the basic HR duties. I accepted the role since it meant a raise for me. I am not going to be able to get anyone in very quickly so it seems I will be back to handling HR once again.
I guess I can focus my re-training on the EAP thing since we do have it. I suppose there is some comfort in knowing the level of confidentiality in doing whatever admin work is related on my own.
A question: With EAP, does someone step in and contact your workplace about your situation for you? If so, what do they tell them? My company is fairly close and I am friendly on a personal level with my boss, but I know he would not understand this problem. It would definitely affect his attitude towards me in the future.
Hey - thanks for the words. I am amazed at the support and wisdom I've gotten in a single day on this site.
the EAP we have is outsourced...the company I work for is large, 30,000+ employees...but the issue is still really the same, your boss is your boss and they wonder what is going on.
When I did it, it was my understanding that the EAP people worked exclusively through the HR department on a completeley confidential basis. I was out for 13 days...HR contacted my boss and told her that I was ill and was being put on a "temporary and indeterminate term disability" ...that is all they told her.
My experience is that the boss can usuallly tell when it is an EAP situation disability...I have over 300 people on my team and had two last year, post 911, "temporary and indeterminate term disability" employees that HR informed us of. That is usually the key that let's us know it is EAP rather than a traditional medical problem...people usdually talk to their boss about those. I have found over the years that a number of my folks who took the EAP route talked to me, after it was all over, about what had happened to them that caused them to do it...the reasons have varried from everything to work over stress, divorce, death of loved ones, post traumatic stress from 911, to substance abuse...you name it The key here is to understand that your boss isn't going to automatically assume it is a substance abuse problem just because it is EAP...does he know you have one? If not, why should he assume it? If he does, he may be glad you're going to get help...sounds like you're a valued employee.
Look, it sounds as if you do pretty well at your job, they value you and have retained you through tough economic times...they have promoted you...you must be doing some good for them right? Explore the EAP route, use your HR position to your advantage.
Remember, you've helped the company succeed and survive...they owe you the same. Use the EAP if you can to help...it is not a gift from the company it is part of your compensation that you earn for doing your job...a job you seem to well from the sound of things.
Check it out, it could work...taking the work stress away could be a big help at succeeding in getting the drugs out of your life and that is what matters most.
Good Luck man, stick with it and hang in, you can do it and you are worth it. Isn't easy, but it is worth it.
When I did it, it was my understanding that the EAP people worked exclusively through the HR department on a completeley confidential basis. I was out for 13 days...HR contacted my boss and told her that I was ill and was being put on a "temporary and indeterminate term disability" ...that is all they told her.
My experience is that the boss can usuallly tell when it is an EAP situation disability...I have over 300 people on my team and had two last year, post 911, "temporary and indeterminate term disability" employees that HR informed us of. That is usually the key that let's us know it is EAP rather than a traditional medical problem...people usdually talk to their boss about those. I have found over the years that a number of my folks who took the EAP route talked to me, after it was all over, about what had happened to them that caused them to do it...the reasons have varried from everything to work over stress, divorce, death of loved ones, post traumatic stress from 911, to substance abuse...you name it The key here is to understand that your boss isn't going to automatically assume it is a substance abuse problem just because it is EAP...does he know you have one? If not, why should he assume it? If he does, he may be glad you're going to get help...sounds like you're a valued employee.
Look, it sounds as if you do pretty well at your job, they value you and have retained you through tough economic times...they have promoted you...you must be doing some good for them right? Explore the EAP route, use your HR position to your advantage.
Remember, you've helped the company succeed and survive...they owe you the same. Use the EAP if you can to help...it is not a gift from the company it is part of your compensation that you earn for doing your job...a job you seem to well from the sound of things.
Check it out, it could work...taking the work stress away could be a big help at succeeding in getting the drugs out of your life and that is what matters most.
Good Luck man, stick with it and hang in, you can do it and you are worth it. Isn't easy, but it is worth it.
Hey man, how is it going?
I see skipper is still there for whomever makes thier way into our midst. Thanks Skipper for being there to listen and offer hope.
STC, I have not posted as regularly as I used to but still monitor the forum regularly. I was a vicodin/hydrocodone/Lortab/Tussionex addict for 12 years. It took a hard fall to get me set in the direction I needed to go in order to get help and break the addiction's grasp. One thing that I will warn you against is doctor shopping/hopping. Under federal statute, this constitutes DIVERSION, a felony by standard in any jurisdiction in the United States. It is also an adopted law in all state statutes as well. If you are seeing several doctors/dentists for the same ailments or claimed ailments and they are prescribing scheduled drugs such as hydrocodone (schedule III) then you are committing a felony. Vicodin addiction is pretty much epidemic and the feds as well as State and local authorities will take you to task for the offense of Diversion. If you are getting it from friends, supplier etc... then you are putting them at risk as well. If you are serious about quitting and only you know if you are ready or not, then please commit to doing exactly that, QUIT. The w/d's far outweigh the down side like jail, loss of everything/everyone, death. You get the picture.
We are here for you. Keep us posted. There is a wealth of information here from which to learn. There is also compassion to help you in the down times. We have all pretty much been there. Life is sweet after vicodin or whatever your demon may be.
In His Love, JR.
I see skipper is still there for whomever makes thier way into our midst. Thanks Skipper for being there to listen and offer hope.
STC, I have not posted as regularly as I used to but still monitor the forum regularly. I was a vicodin/hydrocodone/Lortab/Tussionex addict for 12 years. It took a hard fall to get me set in the direction I needed to go in order to get help and break the addiction's grasp. One thing that I will warn you against is doctor shopping/hopping. Under federal statute, this constitutes DIVERSION, a felony by standard in any jurisdiction in the United States. It is also an adopted law in all state statutes as well. If you are seeing several doctors/dentists for the same ailments or claimed ailments and they are prescribing scheduled drugs such as hydrocodone (schedule III) then you are committing a felony. Vicodin addiction is pretty much epidemic and the feds as well as State and local authorities will take you to task for the offense of Diversion. If you are getting it from friends, supplier etc... then you are putting them at risk as well. If you are serious about quitting and only you know if you are ready or not, then please commit to doing exactly that, QUIT. The w/d's far outweigh the down side like jail, loss of everything/everyone, death. You get the picture.
We are here for you. Keep us posted. There is a wealth of information here from which to learn. There is also compassion to help you in the down times. We have all pretty much been there. Life is sweet after vicodin or whatever your demon may be.
In His Love, JR.
HEY GUYS. I START TAPERING OFF OXYCODONE TODAY, HAD BEEN TAKING
PERCOCET FOR FOR ABOUT 5 YRS, STARTED ON OXY 3 MONTHS AGO, CUTTING 1/2 PER DAY, ONLY 40 MG, IS THIS TOO FAST? I HAVE BEEN READING THIS FORM FOR A FEW MONTHS, YOU GUY'S SEEM LIKE A NICE BUNCH OF PEOPLE. HAVE A NICE DAY.
LEE.
PERCOCET FOR FOR ABOUT 5 YRS, STARTED ON OXY 3 MONTHS AGO, CUTTING 1/2 PER DAY, ONLY 40 MG, IS THIS TOO FAST? I HAVE BEEN READING THIS FORM FOR A FEW MONTHS, YOU GUY'S SEEM LIKE A NICE BUNCH OF PEOPLE. HAVE A NICE DAY.
LEE.
Good luck man...we are here for you...you can do this...stick with it and hang in there...work the EAP stuff, get to your Dr...
YOU CAN DO IT...and it is worth it. Keep in touch, people will help as they can
good luck, you can do it
YOU CAN DO IT...and it is worth it. Keep in touch, people will help as they can
good luck, you can do it
Wow! I posted in another area called "addiction medicine" but found this area and can call it home. I'm 54 yrs old, always an addict (a periodic addict) and I go to NA mtgs which I highly recommend to all of you, which most of you know and do. I stopped a 15 month run of 8-10 vics per day 5 weeks ago. It was very hard and still is. I think for those of you who have depression, find out about anti-depression meds to counteract the brains lack of chemicals that have malfunctioned due to the triggering of the narcotic that made us "normal." I will speak for myself, but I've been chasing some form of narcotic for decades to normalize. I've been diagnosed with Bi-polar and I always ask the age-old question. Was this chemical imbalance caused by drugs, or did I take drugs to balance the bi-polar disorder. The biochemistry of the brain is fascinating. We have many drugs out there to help fend off depression, anxiety and stress that are not addicting. I still get very tired, irritable, fatigue, depression and aches and pains. I do take Neurotin which is for bi-polar but is also used by many detox centers for pain mgmt and brain balance. I too think it is best to stop any narcotic. The tylenol is the toxic element here and is bad for both kidneys and liver. There are too many risks that was aptly mentioned by another about jails, institutions, sickness, harm to others or death. We all will feel much better not taking anything and working on free-will and soul-searching what is really important. I know it sounds simplistic, but it's not. Just remember how we feel four hours after each narcotic-pill dose--then remember how really shitty we feel at every night before we sleep. Hang in there. If this 54 yr old broad can detox, hang in there, anybody can. Yes, it's hard to eat, yes, we have loose stool, yes, we have extreme fatigue and drained out hours, but it gets a bit better each day. There were days I could not eat to save my life--then a cycle begins and without nourishment, we think **** it, this ain't worth it and I'm going back to pain pills. Finally (for me) I'm ready to eat right (many veges and protein with vitamins) and exercise. Exercise is extremely important to get your endorphines going and balance your life. Do yoga, walk, run or weights. We will never be "normies" and always be addicts--but the payoff is greater if we stop. What is the payoff by remaining an addict in distress--we get something from that and need to find out why we like misery if we remain addicted. Finally, I will repeat, if you are depressed, there are non-addictive meds that I think can help--I don't think vitamin/mineral or diet is enough--it helps greatly, but that depression is a killer. Peace.
wow. Sitting here at 1:40 in the morning reading these post has been the most emotional experience I have had since my son was born. I am a vicodin es addict. I am afraid to tell you that I take many more than anyone has said so far. Today I took 22 pills. It has taken only 2 and a half months to get this bad agin. I detoxed my self once back in April when I was taking about 15 a day. It was the most horrifying experience I have ever had and I know I can not do it again. What's worse is I have a 18 months old son, a husband, and a career ahead of me after I graduate college. But, I feel I can't even get out of bed in the mornig with out the assurance that I have 3 pills waiting for me on the bedside table. Pretty dumb, huh? I want to end this nightmare so badly. I want to go into a detox rehab whatever right now but how can I leave my life? School, motherhood, a family who is deeply rooted in religion and would be sooo dissappointed to learn of this addiction. ( not my husband,he has some idea, but not the amount I take)I feel helpless alone scared sick of myself and this drug. I do have the pills to ween my self down one pill a day if I only had the will power. But you know the lies we tell our selves "I had a bad day, only one more" or " my head really does hurt so I'll just take an extra on" etc. etc. until I've gone over that daily limit 3-4 pills. If someone can relate, which I know you can, please please give me some advice. I can't live and die this way. I have no insurance. When I tried to detox in April my husband and I called many mental health facilities in the area and I found a dead end if IU had no insurance. My only option was an emergency room or the salvation army detox clinic which one counselor told me was really rough, especially for a girl in her twenties like me. Where can I go? Is there really a doctor who will help me through this and not say it's all my fault and I need to go to the E.R. The last time my husband called my doctor, who was the one who'd prescribed me to the pills for 5 years and he told him I was sick .. He told him my symptoms-watery eyes, diarhea, naseau, EXTREME EXTREME aches/pains/restlesness and the doc said "SO?" he didn't want to help me. This had been my family doctor. I am sooo sorry I rambled so much- it's just that your my only hope.. I would never kill my self or any thing,I really do love my self and my family. I am just so tired of living this way. I need help.
You are definately not alone. I have just recently taken 280 vicophen in 10 days, that was suppose to be my detox supply.ly. I don't know where or how you get your meds, but if you can switch from vicodin (which has acedimediphen in it) to viocophen, (which has Ibuprophen in it), you would be doing your liver a favor. At such a high dose, you can really damage your liver as could we all with all the **** we ingest. As for tapering, it is damn near impossibe at times but doable. I have four kids, my 18 month old is eating wipes right now, not good. When my second was 21 months I went into detox, almost knocked my husband on his ass, he had no idea at all. I only went in to detox, not for a 28 day stay. As for the rest of the family, those who found out I was in the hospital we told them I had had post-partum, delayed, and was having an anixiety attack. I was better not to see me at this time. It worked and helped a lot. Unfortunitly I relapesed after my daughter was born. She is now 18 months and yes, up at 4am. It was that damn Morphine, that shot that **** in me and the cravings started all over again only stronger. I just can not seem to beat this one. Read some of the post about the Thomas receipe thing. I have not tried it but it seems a lot of people say it works. Right now my drug of choice is Darvon those damn *@$&^$^@&^@&^$#(*##!!!THINGS....They got me good, anyway, when I do get clean for any amount of time, I use Ambien for the restless legs and to sleep, Librax (docs perscribe it for spastic colon or irretible bowl synbrome, tell them you used it before and it is the only thing that works for you. Irritable Bowel runs in cycles so you don't have it all the time and they useualy just prescribe it), long explanation sorry, the Librax has an anti-spasematic in it for your stomach cramps as well as librium which detox centers all use. I wouldn't go cold turkey. Just my opinion, I'm not a doctor, just a drug addict, trying yet once again to get it together. I am a good mom and I want to right my these kids.
You are definately not alone. I have just recently taken 280 vicophen in 10 days, that was suppose to be my detox supply.ly. I don't know where or how you get your meds, but if you can switch from vicodin (which has acedimediphen in it) to viocophen, (which has Ibuprophen in it), you would be doing your liver a favor. At such a high dose, you can really damage your liver as could we all with all the **** we ingest. As for tapering, it is damn near impossibe at times but doable. I have four kids, my 18 month old is eating wipes right now, not good. When my second was 21 months I went into detox, almost knocked my husband on his ass, he had no idea at all. I only went in to detox, not for a 28 day stay. As for the rest of the family, those who found out I was in the hospital we told them I had had post-partum, delayed, and was having an anixiety attack. I was better not to see me at this time. It worked and helped a lot. Unfortunitly I relapesed after my daughter was born. She is now 18 months and yes, up at 4am. It was that damn Morphine, that shot that **** in me and the cravings started all over again only stronger. I just can not seem to beat this one. Read some of the post about the Thomas receipe thing. I have not tried it but it seems a lot of people say it works. Right now my drug of choice is Darvon those damn *@$&^$^@&^@&^$#(*##!!!THINGS....They got me good, anyway, when I do get clean for any amount of time, I use Ambien for the restless legs and to sleep, Librax (docs perscribe it for spastic colon or irretible bowl synbrome, tell them you used it before and it is the only thing that works for you. Irritable Bowel runs in cycles so you don't have it all the time and they useualy just prescribe it), long explanation sorry, the Librax has an anti-spasematic in it for your stomach cramps as well as librium which detox centers all use. I wouldn't go cold turkey. Just my opinion, I'm not a doctor, just a drug addict, trying yet once again to get it together. I am a good mom and I want to right my these kids.
I just read that you have 4 kids. So do I, and one on the way (we just saw the ultra-sound yesterday and all is well (two miscarriages in the last year)). Today is my first day on a tapering schedule I've cut my average dosage in more than half and am starting feeling that blank, disconnected feeling. But I want to stay strong. It amazes me, all of my thoughts driving to work were trying to convince me that now's not the best time and that I should wait for another month, blah blah blah. It is so much the mental part of the whole getting clean process that sabotages me!
I want to be not just a good Dad but one that truly puts my family first, especially above my selfish desire to detach through drugs.
I know that today is the first in a longer battle and I am going to really need to use this forum.
I pray that you can muster the resolve to follow through on whatever plan you have to get back to living a full life as a responsible mom. There's nothing like being able to look yourself in the eye at the end of a long day spent in the service of others.
Sean
I want to be not just a good Dad but one that truly puts my family first, especially above my selfish desire to detach through drugs.
I know that today is the first in a longer battle and I am going to really need to use this forum.
I pray that you can muster the resolve to follow through on whatever plan you have to get back to living a full life as a responsible mom. There's nothing like being able to look yourself in the eye at the end of a long day spent in the service of others.
Sean
Hello everyone! I have been reading about all of your stories, and it makes me feel a little less alone in my addiction to vicodin, and percocet. I know I need to get help. My fiance has no idea that I am addicted. We are getting married in 3 months and I want to be off drugs by then. Is there any way that lowering my dose from 10 pills a day to 7 pills a day to 4 pills, and so on .....? Will this make the withdraw symptoms less intense? Has anyone here tried this, and succeeded at doing so? I know I need help! Thank you for reading!
I'M PRETTY HOOKED 10-20 PILLS A DAY, EVERYDAY I SAY I'M STOPPING NO ONE KNOWS I AM IN SUCH TROUBLE RIGHT NOW I HAVE 5 PILLS LEFT AND I CAN'T QUIT THINKING ABOUT WHERE I AM GOING TO GET MORE I HAVE DETOXED BEFORE AND COLD TURKEY BEFORE BOTH HURT. I WROTE DOWN THE VITIMIN COCKTAIL AND I AM GOING TO GET THESE NOW BUT WHATS KLONOPIN AND CLODINE AND HOW LONG DO THE SYMPTOMS LAST? I GO TO CHURCH AND TO AA BUT I STILL USE. IT A DIRTY SECRET AND I OFTEN WONDER IF I CAN EVER BE FREE AGAIN. HELP ME QUIT WITHOUT HURTING BECAUSE IF I GET SICK MY FAMILY AND JOB WILL NOT SUPPORT ME. THANKYOU
I am here for you if you need to just get it out. I know your situation requires secrecy. I couldn't imagine having to do it that way.
I know you can do it. Just keep up that positive attitude!!!
I know the mental games are the hardest sometimes. But the more you post and let it out, the easier it will be.
I feel for you man. I know it has to be extremely hard to have cut your dosage that much.
All I can recommend is to start taking the "recipe" ASAP. I have had some pretty bad withdrawls in the past, from an 8-10 a day percocet habit. The recipe made me feel like their weren't any noticable physical withdrawls.
I would start taking the recipe ASAP. This will help you be able to wait longer for the next dose.
The hardest part like you said was the mental ****.
I am taking wellbutrin for the depression and it has been a godsend.
I am here all day, all the time if you just need to chat. I don't work.
I want to help as much as I can. I know your situation makes it a hard one to do alone.
Chezz
I know you can do it. Just keep up that positive attitude!!!
I know the mental games are the hardest sometimes. But the more you post and let it out, the easier it will be.
I feel for you man. I know it has to be extremely hard to have cut your dosage that much.
All I can recommend is to start taking the "recipe" ASAP. I have had some pretty bad withdrawls in the past, from an 8-10 a day percocet habit. The recipe made me feel like their weren't any noticable physical withdrawls.
I would start taking the recipe ASAP. This will help you be able to wait longer for the next dose.
The hardest part like you said was the mental ****.
I am taking wellbutrin for the depression and it has been a godsend.
I am here all day, all the time if you just need to chat. I don't work.
I want to help as much as I can. I know your situation makes it a hard one to do alone.
Chezz
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