What is the best method to get off these pain pills? Cold turkey? Methadone? reh

[hookedinBERKELEY]

So my friend turned me onto this site, after a failed cold turkey attempt to get off the Norco, and Vicodin. I just got to the 3rd day and felt like there were creepy crawlys under my skin trying to burrow their way out! Then I thought ok, that didn't work (coldturkey), lets check out this clinic down the street that uses methadone in a 21 day program to get off the opiates. That clinic scared me! Do I really need to use methadone to come off these pills? It seems like an extreme solution.
So now what? My doctor wants me to wait until I am adjusted to my new anti depressants, before attmepting getting off the pain pills. So I guess I'll wait a month, but then what? rehab? 12 steps? No options sound good to me. I would like to just stop, but found that didn't work
I seem to have a very addictive personality, I used to do crystal meth, and drink etc.
But now that I'm 43 I'm not using anything except for pain pills,
I just feel so overwhelmed by this addiction to pain pills, and this site is a bit overwhelming too.
Ok i guess thats it, i guess i check back to see if i got a response, or is it emailed to me?

[chemmonster7]

well there is c/t that you will have w/d from methadone can be a promblem on its own I was on it for 4yrs too get off pain pills did it work yes until I became addicted to the methadone  and no I could not c/t off the pills went c/t from methadone and was like walking through hell twice. methadone can get you off the pills but when its gone at least for me my cravings are back and I have been off of it for 3mnths but every one is differnt good luck post w.any questions

[oneway]

Yo man do not get into the methadone because it is the hardest detox. The first 7 days of pill detox feels like your hanging on the cross. If u can get someone to control your finances then do it. I would also tell u to do the thomas recipe. Go to the search and look it up lots of people swear on it.  I guess this sight looks crazy when u first come on but you'll eventually find out that u can really ask about anything and people usually have an answer quick. In my opinion don't do the methadone because your just trading one drug for another, a worse drug in my opinion. Methadone actually gets in your bones. If u are extemely disciplined then you could do a taper. There is a taper schedule in these past posts somewhere. Search for it. But do what u gotta do my man. Everybody is different. Good luck

[chemmonster7]

yes it does get into your bones and brain I would take c/t pill w/d any day over this

[oneway]

Yo chem. I read more of that cole 80 post. Damn I really want him to come back on here so I can verbally buck 50 him. I know no one wants me to mention his name but I'm wd and in a bad mood. Isn't there anybody else that wants that lil b%$h punk to come back on so they can give him a verbal beatdown. Damn I gotta stop. Man everyone was punkin out to that dude, I wish I could have been defendin yall yesterday. Yeah dude had jokes and was straight up screwin with sensitive people yesterday. Sorry I'm being immature.

[chemmonster7]

I know how you feel but he had his fun and probably wont come back if he does hes dumber then I thought I wish I was on here at the time too lied to reach through cyberspace and kick himin the ass!!!!! I am worried he chase shorty away w/ his insults  when she could use us the most whata scumbag!!

[hookedinBERKELEY]

I just wanted to thank those that answered my question. That thomas recipe sounds good to me. I do feel I should taper down slowly before trying it though. I am on  Norco and they are supposed to be taken every 6 hours, well i took one at 7:30am, one at 9:00 am, and just now one at 11:00am. So I am not sure how I will recapture control and take them only as prescribed, then slowy less until i get to the point where I feel ready to try getting off them using the thomas recipe.

[creek]

He only has the power to **** us off if WE LET THAT HAPPEN.  I too was really stressed at the drama. But if you think about how families (well some of us have families, maybe I should say support systems) come together, as we do here.  I was so proud of everyone who stuck up for their friends here.  You are not so pissed for yourself your angry because he hurt others.

THAT IS HEALING for all of us.  If you look deeper you had those emotions the last few days cause he was f***** with your "family" here.  That to me says we are a strong group of friends who not only count on each other, believe in each other, but also defend each other.
I don't know about you, but I have never felt this much caring and love.  THAT IS WHAT CAME OUT OF ALL THIS BULL****.  

It makes me more dedicated to my recovery because this forum is for real and can let people voice their opinion (good or bad) and that's when we realize the connections we have are very strong.  He hit a nerve with you.  It's because you care.  You are growing because of him, believe it or not.

I am tapering and being extremely diciplined so far.  The tylenol liver issues scared the **** out of me.  Hang in there and I will too.

You are important to me and I really respect your words of advice.  My mom used to say...people who deserve lovin' the least, need it the most.  Maybe cole fits that catagory.

[creek]

Pay no mind to the cole drama #1.  It has nothing to do with you as you just have such good questions today about your use.

You are like me.  That is exactly how I began to abuse vics.  One at a time.  Just one more, just an hour earlier...then unfortunatley it turns into, take two, take four...I know this is incredible to hear.  I never imagined I would take 20 vics in a day.  NEVER!!!!

But here I am in my situation, using an obscene amount of money to get more than the dr, prescribed etc. and really losing my self respect along the way.

DON"T LET THAT PILL BOTTLE TALK TO YOU>  You are in the beginning stages of addiction to these...can you find any substute for the pain...Lyrica works for me sometimes.  I just hate to see you go down the path I went and then one pill just is NEVER enough.  Stop now honey, you are in the right place for support.  You are MY story eight years ago.  Don't be MY story eight years from now!!!!!!!!!!
It happens so seductively, don't let it get you.  I beg you to stop now.  You can do this!!  Talk to me anytime I am herefor u

[chemmonster7]

creek is right and I think we all really do care about each other and trust me he is reading the posts,you never srew w/family no matter how it was made or put together and you know what I mean if it was someone in front of me i would be wearing orange jumpsuit hopefully all who was hurt will come back to us

[oneway]

I really like how u stay postive. I sometimes think maybe if I could have been more postive in life then I wouldn't be in the situation I'm in now. The cole situation is just me lettin negativity get to me. Thanks for the words

[creek]

Like you have taught me, it is not too late for any of us.  Be positive today.  That is in your control.  You are just an inspiration (and a little spitfire) in our group.  I am always here for you.

You are on the right road... we all are...TOGETHER.  Let's not look back...you are here today, healing.

[KMHSMB]

Hey....the meth program should not be an option at all!!! It is a way worse drug then the vic's....I went c/t on percocets, I made one mistake! YOU SHOULD CHANGE THE I CAN'T DO IT ATTITUDE!! See, this isn't only a physical thing, but mental as well, if you believe you can't do it...then you won't be able too!! They do have these pills called "suboxens" that alot of people i know got off of pills with, they disolve under your tounge, and they say if you take any opiates while under the influence of them, you will get really sick!! So, alot of people I know did a 7 day detox with them before, watch it though....a friend of mine went to the dr and got perscribed them for her oxy habit, and they gave her way to many!! You shouldn't get off of one thing to only have to depend on another thing to feel good! Maybe you should just try to recipe thing and see how that works for you!!! Good Luck....YOU CAN DO THIS!!! Write down on paper why you NEED to quit and why YOU DON'T NEED the pills anymore!! Weigh it out, how much more in life will you have without them, how is it destroying your life? These things will motivate you to quit even more, and then maybe you could build the strength to go c/t. It's a possibility you may slip!! But then you brush yourself off and try again, the temptation will eat at you....then isolate yourself!!! YOU CAN DO IT!!!
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