What is the best way to tell your doc.

[terter]

I would like to find a doc in my area, the ones I have seen G.P's seem like they don't want to touch addiction. The one I got most of my scripts from says oh well. I have gotten off a 20 a day habit of hydro for 3 years then relapsed and am tappering with darvocette is this a good choice?? My biggest problem is lack of energy and depression that lasts forever after I stop useing, is there a certain medication that I can ask for to help with this? Thanks TER

[mrmichael67]

You're welcome.

[pammy0690]

I thought Kurt's line about being "a wordy junkie" was funny.  This two shall pass.  Pamela

[Nana42]

The other thread closed...but I wanted to thank you for your suggestions and words of encouragement.  I'm much calmer now.  Strange how just the mere THOUGHT of not being able to get more pills can make a person go Nuckin' Futs!  

I have a few weeks now of tapering...which makes me feel a lot better!

Love to all...and TONS of thanks!

Talk to you all soon...I'm sure!

Nana

[terter]

Thank you. I have an appointment tomarrow with a doc who perscribes buprenex. How long do you think I should stay on it if I do take it? Thanks for the reply about the Darvocet(spelled correctly for Jesse)but please don't attack the rest of my spelling... Thanks TER

[cetiya]

Try to find a pain specialist, they seem familiar with all "this", not like a regular doc.  I told my doc the truth, I wasn't taking the oxycontin for pain, I was taking it because if I don't, I'll go into withdrawals.  He's the one who got me in this mess.  He wanted to take this slow, I just got off the duragesic patch, and I'll stay on sustained release oxycontins for a while, then try to taper down to vidcodins I guess.  I just gotta get off the heavy duty pain pills, I'm not in that much pain anymore.
  good luck finding a doc, hope he doesn't give you more problems!

[bmac]

I am sorry about the way I posted that comment about other borads. It wasnt meant to defend this one. I belong to 3 other boards and I was really trying to make the comment about all the fighting that goes on on all these boards. Sorry I didnt 'splain myself right! And about the AA/NA thing. I talked to a guy from the local Bham NA and he told me that to be in the program you would have to have a note from your doctor explaining in detail why I am stillon pain killers. This is why I dont like NA/AA. Now I know it isnt this way everywhere, but I thougt what right does this guy have asking for my private medical records. Sometimes I think these groups need to look at themselves first. But I am sure they do help people. I just got a bad tast in my mouth from this so called Caring man the runs the local NA group. He said before I could be apart of his group I needed to bring him note from my Pain Doc. I told him off and I also filed a complaint with the regional chapter OF NA here in Alabama and so far havent received an answer which I am sure I wont. Being a druggie you know! LOL

[pepsi4]

Is is Darvocet or Darvocet-N that you have?  Also, see my post at the end of the last thread -- you may want to look into that, if you react to tramadol the way I do.

[motox4fun01]

YEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWWWWW
I just got word that I can now apply to get my Registered Nurse License BACK!
All I have to do is go in-patient for a 5 day substance abuse eval and follow the reccomendations of the Doctor and pay a FINE.
Sounds like alot of hassle, but at least I am on the road to getting my life BACK!

James

[mrmichael67]

Congratulations James!  That is good news indeed.  It is always nice to get some of that from time to time seeing as how things usually are.

[pepsi4]

Congrats James!  I remeber reading your post a while back and really feeling for you.  You are the BEST -- keep going!

[babyboomer]

We all have one thing in common(two) We take pills for pain and we are  hopeleessly addicted. Some are fighting this alone and some have all kinds of support.Most of us are ashamed of the whole thing. Especially the older we are.(not being to able to control such a simple little thing like a pill.!)And it is very hard for some of us to admit we have a problem, let alone ask for help.Some issues of getting help have to do with MONEY. And time.And ofcoarse finding the Dr. to help. Do any of you know if phsyciatrist are qualified with addiction??Ifyou do, let me know. I am badly addicted to methadone. It will certainly kill me someday. Love a prayers to all!!! babyboomer

[mrmichael67]

Are you abusing methadone, or are you taking it as prescribed?  OR, are you in a clinic?  If you are abusing it, then yes, it can kill you.  Some psychiatrists are trained in the arts.

[Huiler]

Thanks, Wanna, for your answer to me about Buprenorphene on the thread before this one.
And...in spite of what people say about bad vibes and so onon this forum, I still think there is more help, love and goodness on this forum than there is otherwise. People just seem to have to wrangle where ever we are!
Peace and hang in, all you good people!
H.

[terter]

It is darvocet N100, The ultram/tramadol is what started me in this pill thing. After a while taking it I abused it, I took 15 a day it didn't give me the high feeling but it gave me energy. I took it for over a year The doc I got it from said it was a non narcodic. The w/d from that seemed to be worse then from vic's.

[Jerri2]

Hey you sweet thang you!!Hows your shoulder and back doing??hope your ok!!I tend to agree on the aa thing with you.I did in/house 29 days in 98.It was aa/na I learned alot of good things to help me with my relapses.But did not feel comfortable with the 12 step thing and having to introduce myself as alcoholic/addict everytime I wanted to talk.I havent drank since but the pills I struggle with from time to time!( actually everytime I take them!!!)But you are right about your med.records being non of their business!I agree with some of it but not all!!(Am I making any sense?)And if I have to have surgery I'm not going to say I'm an addict so I need to suffer!I'll deal with it as needed!If I have to go through wds.again so be it!But theres NO WAY I'M GOING TO SUFFER FROM IT!!!Love to ya sweet thang!!!  Jerri

[Huiler]

Hi, just going to bed, took some Passion Flower...anyone tried that? I love it! I get it in a health food supermarket.
I like Eclectic Institute brand, the capsules with the real stuff in it, not the tincture. One 200 mg capsule is good for me on a hyped up night. But I'm not in w/d. I'm no expert, but ya might want to try it.You can take more safely, probably. It's NOT the placebo effect! It really helps with relaxation and sleep.
H.

[tonny13]

http://buprenorphine.samhsa.gov/bwns_locator/index.html
This is the the physician locator for all the docs who can treat addiction with buprenorphine.

As far as the darvocette goes from what I have heard and researched, it is not supposed to be as addictive as hydro and I know it is not as strong.  So... if you can realistically stick to a taper with it, it might be a decent choice.  However, I'm sure others on here will have better information than I do.

I was also thinking of possibly using something such as that for a taper.  Please let me know how it works out for you.  I'll be thinking of you.

[skipper]

terter:
i have used darvon and darvocette to come of 200 mg+/a day habit of oxy in the past. this method is not intirely short of discomfort, but will allow you to sleep at night and not **** your pants at in-oppertune moments!

if you can find a good doc (especially if you have pain isssues) by all mean get one. the MD holds the "golden key" in our society. if you have pain issues, this may be (along with this forum) the only way to keep the "gun out of your mouth!"

best of luck, and keep an angel on your shoulder!!
kip

[terter]

Tonny & skip
I did a tapper with Darvaceete in the past and my w/d were not bad just like kip said you sleep and don't have the runs and thats it. It doesn't make you high (or me any way.) I was curious why darvocette works for w/d. I will ck out that site. I am affraid of trading one addiction with another with the buprenex. I guess it boils down to the fact that there will be a fight with this demon and it's up to me to get through it, We all need to tell our selves we are in control.
Thank you so much and if anyone has any thoughts on this please post. TER

[mrmichael67]

Darvocette is chemically related to methadone and is an opioid.  That is why it helps.  Just like methadone, it is a spoil of WWII from Germany. Only when your tolerance is under a certain level does it help.  I did get relief from it many times when I was taking percs and vics.  But, when I was taking a gram a day of morphine, it didn't help at all.  Believe me, I tried many times during that period.

[Forum-M.D.-rcb]

Dear terter:
I meant  to add that an antidepressant may be very helpful for lack of energy and depresion that you describe.

[Courtney Love]

DarvoCET = (DARVOn + aCETaminophen)

[mrmichael67]

That is VERY good Jesse.

[Courtney Love]

Thank you Michael!