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a daily medatation book
a daily medatation book is agreat tool in the begining of recovery as well always.
i have mentioned it before, na has a daily reading book, it is callede just for today, today medatation is on making ammends
by the way ammends is somthing that can waiy don't rush into
making amends, most new people think they need to do a fourth step and an 8 step make amends, .
step one is always the place to start, acceptance of the truth
i am an addict , i have used aginst my will, ,i have hurt people i love
aginst my will , meaning that is not what i wanted to do.
anyway back to a daily medatation book my fav is ( each day is a new beginning ) it always seemed that that little book was right on time, inspireing me just when i need it., when ever i thought i was done with staying clean ,i would read a medatation that would help me get back on track, it was like a miricle.
hazelden sells them as well as barnes and noble. they are in the misnamed self help area of the book stores.
if it is not practical it is not spirtual.!
humilty means being who we are and not who we think we are.!
it is not what we used that makes us an addict but why we used.!
unconditional love is allowing others to make mistakes
and still accept them and provide encouragement. !
a mature conscience is aware of it's motives
peace!!!!!!!!! and good day
i have mentioned it before, na has a daily reading book, it is callede just for today, today medatation is on making ammends
by the way ammends is somthing that can waiy don't rush into
making amends, most new people think they need to do a fourth step and an 8 step make amends, .
step one is always the place to start, acceptance of the truth
i am an addict , i have used aginst my will, ,i have hurt people i love
aginst my will , meaning that is not what i wanted to do.
anyway back to a daily medatation book my fav is ( each day is a new beginning ) it always seemed that that little book was right on time, inspireing me just when i need it., when ever i thought i was done with staying clean ,i would read a medatation that would help me get back on track, it was like a miricle.
hazelden sells them as well as barnes and noble. they are in the misnamed self help area of the book stores.
if it is not practical it is not spirtual.!
humilty means being who we are and not who we think we are.!
it is not what we used that makes us an addict but why we used.!
unconditional love is allowing others to make mistakes
and still accept them and provide encouragement. !
a mature conscience is aware of it's motives
peace!!!!!!!!! and good day
Very nice hippy. Good mornin to you... Jessearpy...im wakey wakey now. Call me baby... How is everyoe doin? Is sat night the worst for ya? Old party syndrome? Temptation is strong.
Have a good day..make it yur day..its all we have!
Suzie
Have a good day..make it yur day..its all we have!
Suzie
I really enjoy your posts and I am interested in your take on things.
I'm sure it's my poor tired brain, but sometimes I have a really, really hard time understanding you because of typos. Could you do me a tiny favor and just reread your typing?
I think I finally do get the jist of most of what you mean to say, but sometimes not.
I don't mean to be critical, please don't think that.
Please feel free to ignore this if you want.
Thanks,
Cin
I'm sure it's my poor tired brain, but sometimes I have a really, really hard time understanding you because of typos. Could you do me a tiny favor and just reread your typing?
I think I finally do get the jist of most of what you mean to say, but sometimes not.
I don't mean to be critical, please don't think that.
Please feel free to ignore this if you want.
Thanks,
Cin
yeah, get it together man wouldja? hahaha...KIDDING!
i only wish i could be as spiritual as you...i just cannot get into anything like that. i need something to believe in. i read the stuff you write, and i think to myself i need to become more like him. can i force myself to think positively? i've gone to the meetings, and i always end up feeling like i don't belong...that i don't believe what they believe.
how did you go from being a down-in-the-dumps addict, to a spiritual, positive addict? did a light just click on in your head one day, or was it a slow transition?
you're really groovy hippy...peace
i only wish i could be as spiritual as you...i just cannot get into anything like that. i need something to believe in. i read the stuff you write, and i think to myself i need to become more like him. can i force myself to think positively? i've gone to the meetings, and i always end up feeling like i don't belong...that i don't believe what they believe.
how did you go from being a down-in-the-dumps addict, to a spiritual, positive addict? did a light just click on in your head one day, or was it a slow transition?
you're really groovy hippy...peace
you guys are right about my typeing , i will take more time and make it correct, my wife has always bugged me about it,
saying you know so much but your grammer makes you look dumb.
so i will try harder to get a handle on it.
groovy , as far as na and meeting s and getting it together,
it takes time but there are short cuts.
number one meetings can be boring and bad , but that is not the importan thing, finding a group and makeing it your home group is the 1st step , it is a big surrender but the pay off is huge'
reading the chapters in the na basic text is very fulfilling.
two chapters that i recomend , are the just for today chapter ,
and the chapter on recovery and relapse. read them over and over.
when ever you go to a meeting it is alway good to talk about today and talk about the truth.
if the meeting stinks talk about it, when the drugs were bad i was the 1st to say we got ripped off.
same with a bad meeting say somthing.
when ya get involved with a home group. it is the groups purpose to talk about recovery and how it can become a more attractive group ,
a place where a new addict would want to come back too.
i had a shirt made that said NO DUMPING. because the meeting where i was going was nothing but a dumping ground for selfish , self centered addiccts.
in order for people to get better they have to get a sponser who knows what the hell is going on and how to work the steps
i had to go to clevland to find a sponser in 1885 who knew what was up.
all the people in philly were cluless at the time/
the home group is the healing principle and it takes pain out of your life , it just takes a little time.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
saying you know so much but your grammer makes you look dumb.
so i will try harder to get a handle on it.
groovy , as far as na and meeting s and getting it together,
it takes time but there are short cuts.
number one meetings can be boring and bad , but that is not the importan thing, finding a group and makeing it your home group is the 1st step , it is a big surrender but the pay off is huge'
reading the chapters in the na basic text is very fulfilling.
two chapters that i recomend , are the just for today chapter ,
and the chapter on recovery and relapse. read them over and over.
when ever you go to a meeting it is alway good to talk about today and talk about the truth.
if the meeting stinks talk about it, when the drugs were bad i was the 1st to say we got ripped off.
same with a bad meeting say somthing.
when ya get involved with a home group. it is the groups purpose to talk about recovery and how it can become a more attractive group ,
a place where a new addict would want to come back too.
i had a shirt made that said NO DUMPING. because the meeting where i was going was nothing but a dumping ground for selfish , self centered addiccts.
in order for people to get better they have to get a sponser who knows what the hell is going on and how to work the steps
i had to go to clevland to find a sponser in 1885 who knew what was up.
all the people in philly were cluless at the time/
the home group is the healing principle and it takes pain out of your life , it just takes a little time.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hippy has been here as long as i have, which is about a year and a half. he is one of the most thoughtful, generous, intelligent people here, REGARDLESS of how he spells. it's the people that are negative, petty AND can't spell that are really irritating.
meditation, if done properly, clears your mind of all the clutter that builds up. i like it because my mind races with all the things i need to do, haven't done and am feeling guilty about. it has taken me years to get anything out of it, and even now sometimes i cannot relax enough to get there. for me, i needed a really good teacher/mentor to learn the techniques that work for me. yoga is also wonderful. it's the making time part that gets me. it's funny, i say i don't have time for this or that, but i have always had plenty of time to find my meds. i hear people on the forum say they don't have enough money to go to detox, yet the same people have probably wasted thousands on their little habits...priorities...that's all it is.
meditation, if done properly, clears your mind of all the clutter that builds up. i like it because my mind races with all the things i need to do, haven't done and am feeling guilty about. it has taken me years to get anything out of it, and even now sometimes i cannot relax enough to get there. for me, i needed a really good teacher/mentor to learn the techniques that work for me. yoga is also wonderful. it's the making time part that gets me. it's funny, i say i don't have time for this or that, but i have always had plenty of time to find my meds. i hear people on the forum say they don't have enough money to go to detox, yet the same people have probably wasted thousands on their little habits...priorities...that's all it is.
I totally did not to pick on Hippy. I thought a lot about mentioning the spelling. I just want to understand him. And I do think he's very thoughtful and insightful. I don't even think it's a matter of spelling, it's just typos.
Please don't be mad at me.
Please don't be mad at me.
you are correct, i just have to go a little slower and check
my grammer, and i will take the time to do it , and i know
you have a sweet heart , and are caring.
i hope you have a wonderful rest of the day
the same goes for groovy.
you guys are good people.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my grammer, and i will take the time to do it , and i know
you have a sweet heart , and are caring.
i hope you have a wonderful rest of the day
the same goes for groovy.
you guys are good people.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If a person is in a profession where drug use is checked and licensure is required is it considered "safe" to attend these groups? Can someone lose thier livlihood? Is there trust? I have never been to one. I have been addicted all alone for over 10 years.
Thx
Suzie
Thx
Suzie
Michael... (if that's your REAL name...)
I didn't know that you were one of the "Immortals" -- No wonder you have a vast repository of knowledge....
I quote you....
"i had to go to clevland to find a sponser in 1885 who knew what was up."
Assuming you were at least a teenager at the time of the meeting in Cleveland.... You are at least 130 Years old. NOW I get it. Wisdom comes from age AND Experience....
Just kidding, Hipster....
I try to put my writing through the old Microsoft
I didn't know that you were one of the "Immortals" -- No wonder you have a vast repository of knowledge....
I quote you....
"i had to go to clevland to find a sponser in 1885 who knew what was up."
Assuming you were at least a teenager at the time of the meeting in Cleveland.... You are at least 130 Years old. NOW I get it. Wisdom comes from age AND Experience....
Just kidding, Hipster....
I try to put my writing through the old Microsoft
yes that is my name , and i don't know how to use the spell checker, my son hooked up the system before he went off to collage last month, when i went o clevland i was 26 and i was about 2 years clean at the time, and the man i went to see was 15 years clean in na. and he was one of the trustee,s in the
na world service, and had written a few of the na phamplets.
and part of the basic text.
speaking of vampires i love anne rice and have read all her books.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
na world service, and had written a few of the na phamplets.
and part of the basic text.
speaking of vampires i love anne rice and have read all her books.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the na groups are pretty discreet and safe.
i komw a more than a few few famous people who go
i komw a more than a few few famous people who go
O.K. Lestat.
I'm onto your game. I just thought vampires were not addicts.. but we LEARN more and more every day.
Kidding again.
I'm lookin' for my Sue-Z. Seen her?
WHat about GHW/Groovy? Where YOU at?
See ya, Les.
I'm onto your game. I just thought vampires were not addicts.. but we LEARN more and more every day.
Kidding again.
I'm lookin' for my Sue-Z. Seen her?
WHat about GHW/Groovy? Where YOU at?
See ya, Les.
hey suz na has closed meetings for addicts only.
they also have womans meetings that are closed.
you can find them at
na basic web page. org. meettings.html
peace and keep posting and ask any questions
they also have womans meetings that are closed.
you can find them at
na basic web page. org. meettings.html
peace and keep posting and ask any questions
so have you read anne rice and all her vampire
books, they are very good.
i really really liked memnoch.
so i gather you are in some pain
what is it , i was just wondering.
pain is somthing i think a lot of us are to
experenced at,
i hope yous is not to bad , i know my experence
with bad pain is like drowning, or being trapped in a box
you can't get ouy of.
i have been lucky, a lot of the pain i have had
went away for some reason or another.
somedays i think it was just a miricle
that it was lifted,. of course when i was surrering through it
i thought it was always goung to be with me.
and that type of hopeless thinking just made the pain worse.
books, they are very good.
i really really liked memnoch.
so i gather you are in some pain
what is it , i was just wondering.
pain is somthing i think a lot of us are to
experenced at,
i hope yous is not to bad , i know my experence
with bad pain is like drowning, or being trapped in a box
you can't get ouy of.
i have been lucky, a lot of the pain i have had
went away for some reason or another.
somedays i think it was just a miricle
that it was lifted,. of course when i was surrering through it
i thought it was always goung to be with me.
and that type of hopeless thinking just made the pain worse.
I found the local NA meetings in my town. They are held in an apartment complex that I wouldn't go into unarmed. lol So much for that.
If I were a percodan where would I hide?
Good one!
I would be in bmac's blood stream by now,that's the answer!!
peace,
bmac
Good one!
I would be in bmac's blood stream by now,that's the answer!!
peace,
bmac
Welcome back!Everyone was looking for you.I guess sometimes it
better to be searched for than found.I hope you are OK!
bmac
better to be searched for than found.I hope you are OK!
bmac
Hey, sweetie---Don't think I'm yelling at you or judging you but after reading your post, I'm scared for you. I think your bf WILL bring up the dealer thing, no matter how good you or the meal looks, and I think you should consider being straight w/ him. If he's quit narcs, then he will understand how hard it is to quit (he probably relapsed a time or two, right?) plus the fact that he cares for you--are you sure he wouldn't be understanding and helpful?
And you're going to end up selling everything you have of value for pills and then what? What about when you run out of stuff to sell? The fact that you're combining the different kinds of meds and strengths is scary, too, and at ever-increasing doses....I know you've thought of all this already, Alissa, and what you really want is some help and advice. There is really only one answer---quit the drugs in any way you can. I realize you may not WANT to spend 28 days in detox, but if it'll get you a winning start, you need to consider it, don't you? You have your whole life in front of you, and you're too valuable to let it all go down the drain. I'm sorry if I'm too preachy--I just care. Love, Peaz
And you're going to end up selling everything you have of value for pills and then what? What about when you run out of stuff to sell? The fact that you're combining the different kinds of meds and strengths is scary, too, and at ever-increasing doses....I know you've thought of all this already, Alissa, and what you really want is some help and advice. There is really only one answer---quit the drugs in any way you can. I realize you may not WANT to spend 28 days in detox, but if it'll get you a winning start, you need to consider it, don't you? You have your whole life in front of you, and you're too valuable to let it all go down the drain. I'm sorry if I'm too preachy--I just care. Love, Peaz
Peaz cares....
Read her posting to you, and all I am sayin' is,
"give Peaz a chance!"
I had to put that in... It keeps coming up!
Love to the forum,
Jess
Read her posting to you, and all I am sayin' is,
"give Peaz a chance!"
I had to put that in... It keeps coming up!
Love to the forum,
Jess
Are you there? We need to chat!!! LOL ;)
I will be able to be on my computer for the next hour or two hopefully.
Thanks bmac. I gave up on this place after nobody would help ME when I needed it. Give, give, give....take take take take take. Its a two way street. I guess everybody else was on the cul-de-sac that day.
Chezz
I will be able to be on my computer for the next hour or two hopefully.
Thanks bmac. I gave up on this place after nobody would help ME when I needed it. Give, give, give....take take take take take. Its a two way street. I guess everybody else was on the cul-de-sac that day.
Chezz
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