awwwww now I'm blushing! lol
Thanks Thomas. I love you too. Thanks for being you.
your ally in "operation respect for addicts"
WW
You both were truly eloquent...In thses days when I have such **** hanging over my head I could not have been so tactfull...been very irritable altely and it shows....hats off to the both of you.......love cin
Thomas you pose some good questions. I can only speculate as to what might drive someone to post such thinly veiled hostility under the guise of trying to be helpful.
See...from what I understand about how therapy works, addiction therapy or any kind, the *key* to its success is the quality of the relationship between the therapist and client. The research (as well as common sense) indicates that clients who feel accepted, understood, and not judged have a much better chance of a successful outcome.
Professionals who bully clients or shame them make things worse. Way worse. Most, if not all, therapists are unconciously trying to resolve their own issues through working in this field. The good therapists understand this, and do enough of their own internal work so as to not project their issues onto their clients.
Then there are those who feel they have "The One and Only True Right Way". These folks apply a formula to the client, rather than be guided by the unique needs of each client to structure the correct approach. Some clients need a no bullshit hardline approach, others need gentler interventions..most need a combination. But I'll tell you this...addicts are the most sensitive clients I've ever worked with. An addict, or the adult child of an addict, can tell almost instantly if you are a genuine trustworthy therapist. Those with any self esteem left will run from the shaming therapists (and often be blamed for being "non compliant"), but sadly many stay because they see no other choice.
I think that dear ol' daniel has got some hostility for any addict that is not doing recovery the way he thinks recovery should be done.
Thomas, you and the rest of the crew here have done more for me in my recovery than any therapist I have ever seen (and I've seen a lot). You are right. It is the relentless love, tolerance and non judgementalism that is the key to coping with this disease, not the shaming and finger wagging. It blew my mind to find that on this site, despite admiting I was an addict, I was given compassion and respect. I felt like the scum of the earth, and here I was being given respect!!! That torked my poor lil brain enough to crack open some hope of love and light taking over in the darkness of my addiction. And is seems it has.
I did almost blow my top when I read his last post to me, but managed to remember my serenity prayer, and not give into the flaming that I wanted to write him.
Folks who evoke that kind of intense emotional response are usually projecting their **** onto others, in my experience.
Now, I suppose I'll get called a bad therapist by Daniel again. That is ok. His opinion of a stranger typing into a computer is not something I'm going to let affect me anymore.
Now...let move on to spreading the seeds of tolerance, respect, and compassion! Yeeeehaw!!!
love,
WW
Witchywoman re: Danielincc
I am finished directly addressing the grotesque Danielincc, but I must applaud you, my increasingly intriguing WW, for the superhuman restraint you showed in your last response to him. If he had ever displayed enough humanity on this forum to inspire me to care, I'd almost pity him for being so totally blind to the hostility, contempt and fear he demonstrates for the poor, poor people he claims to treat. Can you imagine going to a "professional" in the vulnerable, anguished state of mind most addicts are in at the point where they finally ask for help -- and then getting a person like Danielincc for your therapist? I've never read posts so openly venomous as these are. Imagine allowing a malignancy like this to actually influence your self-image at a time when you lacked the inner confidence, family support or objectivity to question what you were hearing? Quite honestly, WW, I shudder to think of the damage this person has already gotten away with under the guise of being a "professional." How can someone hate the way this person does and not even know it? This is not meant as rhetoric, WW. I genuinely want to know what you think, because I can't remember a poster who disturbed, depressed and, I'll admit it, angered me the way this poster has.
All I can do is fight him by redoubling my efforts to love and support those who write me for help or for straight answers. Despite being married for 18 years and being the proud father of a beautiful son attending his third year at Cal State Long Beach University, I have always been a relatively solitary person. However, that has never stopped me from drawing from the deep well of compassion I feel for the addict among us who still suffers. My answer to haters like Danielicc is to love my fellow addict without reservation, to make a safe harbor of my heart where, man and woman, boy and girl, old and young, black, yellow, brown and white will never be judged or diminished, never be shamed or dismissed.
Love is the only weapon that will defeat the efforts of a poster like Danielicc, and I mean to defeat him by countering his intolerance with a torrent of love and respect against which no prejudice can prevail.
I can only pray that Danielincc's dark cloud moves on to doom another web site and leaves the good souls of this forum to their work - spreading tolerance and understanding while articulating the joy of our common struggle and sacrifice.
Your Friend,
Thomas
THOMAS...That last post was truly eloquent! And you used such dipolmacy. Diplomacy meaning..having the abilty to tell someone to go to hell and have them look forward to the trip. I applaud you sincerely.
May your kindness, wisdom, experience and compassion continue to ease the pain of others on this forum.
Shea
this will be might last post for a few days- but i wanted to take the opportunity to thank you for the kind words and thought-i do not suffer from an inferioity complex or any such thing- but when i stated that i felt i had little to offer- what i mean is that- the extreme pain i have from degenerative joint disease- well just about everyone hear suffers from some physical pain- there is little i can offer there- most folks here either have battled or are battling, or are going to battle the horrible effects of withdraws- again- i have no unique situation here- many participants in this forum have offered supplements that supposedly will help alleviate withdrawal symptoms- for those folks i indeed thank you- but sadly- i have no additional advice to offer- to make this long story short- i just cant seem to see the benefit of repeating my problems that so many others have stated time and again- rather i gain strength and encouragement from reading what others have to say- if i find a new medical breakthough that will help all others- here would be the first place that info would be posted- so--- hopefully you will understand that i will continue to "ghost" here-
although i do hope you wont mind if i pop in everynow and then just to say hi, and that i have been thinking of you- i will have access to a computer in a couple of days-
thanx again to everyone for their nice words and sentiments-