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loratab overdose
How many loratabs does it take for you to overdose? Im taking 1000mg m363 loratabs.
The post had to be wrong - at that level a hepatic event is almost unstoppable. You only have one liver - and you have enough acetominaphen in you to kill that.....4000mg in 24 hours is considered the max dose of acetominaphen - your liver simply cannot detoxify any more than that and soon it will stop trying and fail. Have you ever seen end stage liver disease? Its not pretty and most in the medical field say that those who go into a coma before deleriums and dementia are the lucky ones. Please trust me here - i have no reason to lie to you but I do have scads of background with drugs and livers...............
I find that many people when referring to how much they take refer to the mg of tylenol,e tc. instead of the opiate in the drug. It gets confusing sometimes.
the tylenol in that amount would shut down your renal system. The body can only handle so much at a time. Assuming theirs at lthe very east 350mg of (but prob more like 500mg)in each pill that would mean 100 pills at once is 35,000mg of tylonol. Your body wouldn't be able to sustain that amount and work it out of your system before your kidneys and liver shut down.
Please, please don't take that amount. The body can't handle that much tylonol under any tolerance.
I really hope this poster comes back. It sounds more like a suicide attempt than wanting to take that many and wake up the next day.
Amph
Please, please don't take that amount. The body can't handle that much tylonol under any tolerance.
I really hope this poster comes back. It sounds more like a suicide attempt than wanting to take that many and wake up the next day.
Amph
10 a day is a good place to detox from. it would not be that bad.I would take 25 - 30 before i moved on to bigger and better things.why would you want to kill yourself? is life really that bad? i just came off methadone am 35 days clean and feel so good now. i could never kill myself . it would hurt the poeple i love too much. my wife my kids,have you talked with anyone about your fellings?
I have been thinking about killing myself and i've felt that, If I could take as many as 10 pills a day of the loratabs with no worries. I really wonder how many pills that it would take to do the job?
I respect and admire your points as compassionate and caring...You have a big heart and simply don't want to hurt anyone or chase them away. I empathize with your view and in many ways, I don't disagree. In my post up a few, I did offer a Hotline phone call, which I was dead serious about. I would have been happy to have spoken to rkf, truly. That offer is still open to rkf and frankly to anyone else. I promise you lunachick that in conversation I would be less tough and more compassionate, but equally honest. The tact in a personal converation is different than the tact in a forum.. Here we all only had one chance to reach out to rkf. The truth is he posted one time, in such a way, that none of us can really tell how serious he/she was, None of us could tell from his one sentence question whether he was serious about suicide, simply wanted to know about the quantity required for OD. I think he got honest answers from everyone, from Beach, you, Bettie, wait2ling, Nauty, Calzy, RAyy, and marcatj. Each and every one of us cared...Granted each of us answered in our own style, but again, no one said anything that should have chased him/her away. Where is rkf? Did he take them and go into a coma, or did he take them and die, or did he simply pull a fast one on us and is laughing at us now. There is no way you, me or anyone can know unless he came back. Its not fair to assume that many of us were non-compassionate and bear responsibility for rkf's actions. We don't......
That said lunachick, I see your point and will try to be more tactful in my future replies to this type of post.
That said lunachick, I see your point and will try to be more tactful in my future replies to this type of post.
I think for some one to come here new and talk about taking 100 pills in a day as been around them and taking them for a good while. If they said it was about a friend or spouse, then it would be a different story and approach that person in a diff manner. This forum is set up to help ppl with their addiction problems and help end the abuse to our bodies so we dont need to answer someones question if 100 pills is safe or not, that person needs help A.S.A.P and needs to be addressed A.S.A.P with hard tuff questions why they would want so many.That person needs to know they are either going to die or be in a coma or shut down major organ's at those dose levels. Telling that person want might happen to him first is more inportant than saying what might be safe to take or not. Most of us here are still coming to terms with our addiction use so we tend to be soft on ppl when they asked those kind of questions but it is also important for that person to get a Dr. Phil answer for a wake up call if it sounds like a person is on the edge and may be thinking suicidal thoughts. The cold hard facts is what that person needs first and then deal with the other issues that person has. Just know that this person may or may not come back but will read everthing here so you need to make it count what you want to say to that person and i would not worry about what other ppl say here but rather you stay focussed on the subject to help ppl in addiction. Rft, this is one of the best places to get things out in the open and NO ONE knows who you are so if your in a bit of a struggle you can get all the help you need to the tough questions of addiction and all the problems that it's bring's. Good Luck and God Bless You.
Just my 2 cents, not an argument, nor do I want an argument. I just truly feel this way. I've spent most of my life, feeling guilty and feeling shame, laid on me by abusive parents. That said, my parents are NOT responsible for my actions, for my escapist behavior. I made those decisions. Granted I may have made different decisions under different ciscumstances, but I am the one that snorted the Coke and drank 20 Kamakazies a night while I was a bouncer in a bar. And WE are not responsible for rkf leaving nor would we be responsible if he/she ate those 100 Mallys.
Your post made sense to me. You said that it depends on his/her tolerance, then you asked how many he/she usually takes.
In any case your statement nor anyone elses was the reason rkf did not post again....NONE of us said anything that transferred the responsibility for rkf's actions from him/her to us. NONE of us chased him/her away....I think there has been too much attention, guilt, shame, and blame paid for folks leaving the forum lately....I don't mean you wait. You are a very caring and compassionate person and it is very obvious to anyone that can read. Lunachick I am not pointing at you either, I just mean that generally folks that leave the forum do it under their own power. WE are not responsible for their actions, one way or another.
In any case your statement nor anyone elses was the reason rkf did not post again....NONE of us said anything that transferred the responsibility for rkf's actions from him/her to us. NONE of us chased him/her away....I think there has been too much attention, guilt, shame, and blame paid for folks leaving the forum lately....I don't mean you wait. You are a very caring and compassionate person and it is very obvious to anyone that can read. Lunachick I am not pointing at you either, I just mean that generally folks that leave the forum do it under their own power. WE are not responsible for their actions, one way or another.
I see your point and concede, a lttle. There is no delete feature here so can't do that nor am I sure it's the right thing to do. I was not trying to be mean, but honest. Newcomers need honesty too, but that said, I see your point and will be more careful. There is no way to discern whether it is or is not a cruel joke. It woud be an easy one to perpetrate. Your answers were good, but I'm not you and can't respond in the same way.
We can't assume that just because rkf is now gone that anyone here chased him away...I will not accept the responsibility for "any" action rkf took, whether he ate the 100 lortabs, left for whtever reason, or is sitting back waiting for us to argue about how wrong our tactics were, then laugh about it...A similar thing was perpetrated here with Moron22 recently.
No one said anything that should have made rkf feel stupid. You can't help anyone if you're afraid to be honest with them. If someone across the room you are in is getting ready to cut their wrists, you can't walk on eggshells, or you would never get to him/her in time. For what it is worth I was a Suicide Hotline counselor in a major city in my younger years and we were not taught to operate from a platform of fear of being honest. I had a girlfriend once who cut her wrists across, side to side...The EMS team got there, bandaged her up then showed her how to do it right, so that she didn't waste their time again as the side to side method seems to be more of an attention getter than an effective method. Perhaps that was too tough, but she got the point and never tried it again.
We can't assume that just because rkf is now gone that anyone here chased him away...I will not accept the responsibility for "any" action rkf took, whether he ate the 100 lortabs, left for whtever reason, or is sitting back waiting for us to argue about how wrong our tactics were, then laugh about it...A similar thing was perpetrated here with Moron22 recently.
No one said anything that should have made rkf feel stupid. You can't help anyone if you're afraid to be honest with them. If someone across the room you are in is getting ready to cut their wrists, you can't walk on eggshells, or you would never get to him/her in time. For what it is worth I was a Suicide Hotline counselor in a major city in my younger years and we were not taught to operate from a platform of fear of being honest. I had a girlfriend once who cut her wrists across, side to side...The EMS team got there, bandaged her up then showed her how to do it right, so that she didn't waste their time again as the side to side method seems to be more of an attention getter than an effective method. Perhaps that was too tough, but she got the point and never tried it again.
well i completely screwed my answer up..i dont even know what i was saying...GAWD!!! she probably left because she couldnt read my post...lol!
I highly doubt he was joking so to assume isn't being too compassionate...but i dunno...
This goes to show that once again..when a newcomer comes on here...and asks a question like this (regardless if we don't like the question or not) we have to be kind to him/her, and not make them feel bad or stupid about it. And especially not to scare them away. I see this all the time. Not everyone who comes on here new knows what questions will or will not offend or make someone mad...better off not to answer them at all i suppose.
This goes to show that once again..when a newcomer comes on here...and asks a question like this (regardless if we don't like the question or not) we have to be kind to him/her, and not make them feel bad or stupid about it. And especially not to scare them away. I see this all the time. Not everyone who comes on here new knows what questions will or will not offend or make someone mad...better off not to answer them at all i suppose.
i was thinking the same thing afterwards. that would mean a 100 pills in a day. yeah, that would kill a Grizzly.
Is this a threat or a promise? You are asking if 100 is enough to die from?......Maybe, maybe not.
rkf, if you are serious please answer these kind folks....The decision is yours to make but the only person that will be ultimately responsible here is you. 100 M363s may or may not kill you...folks have taken more and survived, if thats what you want to know, but frankly as beach says, a coma is most likely...., you may well wake up failing at the task of killing yourself, but be left with a liver that will make you S L O W L Y die over years, in sheer agony from liver failure from 50,000 mg of tylenol at one time IF you choose this method........That is one painful ugly death, I promise you......There are certainly less painful ways to end it. And for this kind of negligence they will NOT put you on a liver transplant list, I assure you.....
If you are serious, please reconsider the method...If you are kidding you are a very cruel person to scare all these kind caring folks. Posting this as a joke is really not very funny.
I'm guessing that you are talking about a one time thing, as 100 of these pills at $5-$6 a pop, is an expensive daily habit. There are certainly cheaper more painless ways to die......I'd be happy to discuss these with you....If you have already taken these pills perhaps we will all read about you in the paper or hear about it on CNN..
I hope that you are kidding....If you are serious and there is any chance that you are willing to talk, I have a HOTLINE number that we can talk on if you will provide me a number to call...Its a non-traceable European based server phone service so no one, including me will know where you are......Post your number or send me a message here. If you won't call me send me a PM and I will give you my number.
rkf, if you are serious please answer these kind folks....The decision is yours to make but the only person that will be ultimately responsible here is you. 100 M363s may or may not kill you...folks have taken more and survived, if thats what you want to know, but frankly as beach says, a coma is most likely...., you may well wake up failing at the task of killing yourself, but be left with a liver that will make you S L O W L Y die over years, in sheer agony from liver failure from 50,000 mg of tylenol at one time IF you choose this method........That is one painful ugly death, I promise you......There are certainly less painful ways to end it. And for this kind of negligence they will NOT put you on a liver transplant list, I assure you.....
If you are serious, please reconsider the method...If you are kidding you are a very cruel person to scare all these kind caring folks. Posting this as a joke is really not very funny.
I'm guessing that you are talking about a one time thing, as 100 of these pills at $5-$6 a pop, is an expensive daily habit. There are certainly cheaper more painless ways to die......I'd be happy to discuss these with you....If you have already taken these pills perhaps we will all read about you in the paper or hear about it on CNN..
I hope that you are kidding....If you are serious and there is any chance that you are willing to talk, I have a HOTLINE number that we can talk on if you will provide me a number to call...Its a non-traceable European based server phone service so no one, including me will know where you are......Post your number or send me a message here. If you won't call me send me a PM and I will give you my number.
now im wondering if he asked that question to commit suicide since he hasnt been back. Or she. I dunno...It WAS a strange question. and then to say "im taking 1000mgs" makes me wonder if they were about to take that right now and end it all. I hope not.
I'm pretty sure he/she had to post wrong...cause thats ALOT for sure!!.Although I was in re-hab with this girl who was taking 70-80, so maybe it's possible..???
so to make this clear, youre taking 100 of these pills a day? because the pills your said youre taking I looked up and theyre 10mgs of opiates. So to be taking 1000mgs a day youd have to take 100 of them...or did you post it wrong? im confused...
Well not really, once your tolerance is up you'd be surprised how much you could take.....
Hope this person comes back..
Hope this person comes back..
it all depends on what your body is used to, if your body is used to, what is your prescribed dose?
it's ok to ask....im sure you just want to know whether you are taking enough to actually overdose. It depends on ones tolerance.
Do you want to kill yourself?
I dont understand why you would ask that question........
Before it will kill you though you will have a seizure and then go into a coma..........and if your
lucky you will wake up in a hospital.......
I dont understand why you would ask that question........
Before it will kill you though you will have a seizure and then go into a coma..........and if your
lucky you will wake up in a hospital.......
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