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methadone withdrawel
I have been abusing,and detoxing from pain killers for about 5 years.I have to do it on my own.any treatment from a doc. is self pay,no insurance.They dont want to talk to me after they hear that.I am also hooked on wethadone wafers for about a year.20 mg.meth.wafers a day.I've heard the detox is horrific from methadone.I'm scared to death.I have two kids,so in treatment is not an option.My husband is the only one who is emplyed,and he is hooked as well.where can i go for help.Even to get some meds to help with the detox.I live in the west palm beach area in florida?can anyone give me any advice.It all seems hopeless.thank you.
I don't mean to break in on a thread, but I posted this question several days ago but I got no replies so I'm trying again.
Most people are familiar with the reasons we go through withdrawal when we are physically addicted to our pain meds and then stop. However, I can't seem to find a reasonable explaination as to why I would go into immediate withdrawal if I took an opioid antagonist such as naltrexone but an opioid niave person would show no effects. Everything that I have read or heard about addiction and detox can't account for this. Anyone have any ideas??
Most people are familiar with the reasons we go through withdrawal when we are physically addicted to our pain meds and then stop. However, I can't seem to find a reasonable explaination as to why I would go into immediate withdrawal if I took an opioid antagonist such as naltrexone but an opioid niave person would show no effects. Everything that I have read or heard about addiction and detox can't account for this. Anyone have any ideas??
Hi - You say in-treatment isn't an option for various reasons...they are good reasons, and I said the same thing many, many times. However, I think you'd be surprised at the options out there and the people that would come out of the woodwork to support you while you were there.
In-patient treatment is perhaps the only thing that works for some people. Some need to be completely taken out of their familiar surroundings. Plus, detoxing isn't fun...to be away from your kids, husband, obligations is a good thing. It gives you a chance to focus on YOU.
I think a lot of times we think we cannot do something, and we convince ourselves that it is out of the question. I know that I made a lot of sacrifices to get my drugs...I found ways to have the money, time etc etc to get what I wanted. A lot of people say they don't have the money, but they sure had it when they were paying for their pills...I did that too.
I'm not saying you don't have very valid reasons for saying you can't go in-treatment - you do. I'm a mother, and I have a job and a husband...to me those are actually more reasons to go to a treatment center where I don't have the responsibilities of taking care of everyone...just myself for a change. I was in a hospital where there were some who didn't have insurance...they did not have to pay...period. You could check around...I guarantee there are places that will take you. Most employers would respect that you wanted to get help...they may not pay you for the time you are out, but I don't think you'd lose your job. Your kids wouldn't get taken away just because you sought help...there would have to be much more there for that to happen, right?
Sorry for rambling...I just don't want you to completely talk yourself out of something that may save your life. There are always solutions...good luck.
In-patient treatment is perhaps the only thing that works for some people. Some need to be completely taken out of their familiar surroundings. Plus, detoxing isn't fun...to be away from your kids, husband, obligations is a good thing. It gives you a chance to focus on YOU.
I think a lot of times we think we cannot do something, and we convince ourselves that it is out of the question. I know that I made a lot of sacrifices to get my drugs...I found ways to have the money, time etc etc to get what I wanted. A lot of people say they don't have the money, but they sure had it when they were paying for their pills...I did that too.
I'm not saying you don't have very valid reasons for saying you can't go in-treatment - you do. I'm a mother, and I have a job and a husband...to me those are actually more reasons to go to a treatment center where I don't have the responsibilities of taking care of everyone...just myself for a change. I was in a hospital where there were some who didn't have insurance...they did not have to pay...period. You could check around...I guarantee there are places that will take you. Most employers would respect that you wanted to get help...they may not pay you for the time you are out, but I don't think you'd lose your job. Your kids wouldn't get taken away just because you sought help...there would have to be much more there for that to happen, right?
Sorry for rambling...I just don't want you to completely talk yourself out of something that may save your life. There are always solutions...good luck.
you are in my thoughts and you are NOT alone. i only wish i could help you more. somtimes it helps to privately sit down and get things written out on paper. your plans, a schedule, etc. it may help you to see things more clearly. you will be okay. like hippee says....just try to get through today. love to you.
I hear ya'. I couldn't get into a medical detox, even though I had insurance. My primary care physician wouldn't help me either, so I was stuck doing the whole thing solo. I did a 21 day methadone detox, then spent almost a full month on the couch, not sleeping or eating, going insane, and it finally began to get better. As you may remember, my habit was really big, and I was withdrawing from benzos at the same time, so it was particularly bad, and I am sure that you won't have to go through anything that extended. The point is that you CAN do it, one way or another.
It sounds like you may need to keep employed, however, which is tricky. Do you think you could succeed on any kind of taper? Is there any way, honestly, that you could forsake the high, in order to simply not be sick, and reduce the dosage over a month or so?
You may need to sort of withdraw from your husbands addiction if it looks like he won't make it, or he may netd to withdraw from you if he is making it and you aren't. It's hard enuff getting clean by yourself.
I don't have any experience with buprenex, or naltraxone (spelling?), but they are apparently effective meds for detox / withdrawal blockage. They seem expensive however. I think you need to do some research on any and all options at this point.
It sounds like you may need to keep employed, however, which is tricky. Do you think you could succeed on any kind of taper? Is there any way, honestly, that you could forsake the high, in order to simply not be sick, and reduce the dosage over a month or so?
You may need to sort of withdraw from your husbands addiction if it looks like he won't make it, or he may netd to withdraw from you if he is making it and you aren't. It's hard enuff getting clean by yourself.
I don't have any experience with buprenex, or naltraxone (spelling?), but they are apparently effective meds for detox / withdrawal blockage. They seem expensive however. I think you need to do some research on any and all options at this point.
Thank you for answering me.I've been reading the posts for a long time.too ashamed of failure to write.but desperate times call for desperate measures.Both me and my husband would have to go to rehab.Its not an option because we would lose everything we have.Nobody would be willing to pay our bills.We live on a week to week paycheck.As far as being afraid to let people know,about our addiction.Well Its not so much we dont want to tell them.I'm afraid I'll get my kids taken away from me.My family isn't exactly the supportive type.So thats why I was hoping to do an outpatient deal with a doc.Like I said no insurance.rehab wants ins.not to mention I could never afford it anyway.I know I sound like I have every excuse in the book.But I have been inquiring about help and how to go about it.And I feel helpless.No insurance no help.Dont have thousands of dollars,and cant afford for my husband to take a month off work.I just feel like there is no way out.I know I sound really pathetic.Look I know I have to do this on my own.I just want to know how.I know there are meds. doctors prescribe for detox.Do you know what those docs are called.You know an addiction specialist.Hopefully I dont need to rob a bank to see him.Well keep in touch.How are you doing with your demons?I hope your still winning the good fight!
It's good to see you back. I still think you have the best name on the forum. Very descriptive, and for me, very appropriate. I totally pictured you as a guy for some reason.
Anyway, treatment isn't an option? Maybe anything and everything should be an option at this point. Like coming clean with family and friends and getting any and help you can.
I don't know that this applies to you, but it certainly did for me. It's a saying, "You can't save face and your ass at the same time". - I had to pretty much level my pride, tell people I was close to that I had a real problem, and be willing to make any sacrifices in my life necessary to get clean.
The best option might be to get to a methadone clinic, and do a 2-3 month taper, or perhaps taper down with Oxycontin, sticking to a strict taper schedule, and only taking them in time-release fashion. However, the latter option assumes that you could stick to an extended taper by yourself, which I never could. I would certainly consider rehab. Couldn't you find a way to have your kids looked after for a month?
Anyway, I'd consider everything. If your life is on the line like mine was, what kind of future are you setting up for your kids by continuing to use? Would you rather they miss you for a month or two or have you or your husband gone forever? This thing only gets worse, which I am sure you have learned by now...
Anyway, treatment isn't an option? Maybe anything and everything should be an option at this point. Like coming clean with family and friends and getting any and help you can.
I don't know that this applies to you, but it certainly did for me. It's a saying, "You can't save face and your ass at the same time". - I had to pretty much level my pride, tell people I was close to that I had a real problem, and be willing to make any sacrifices in my life necessary to get clean.
The best option might be to get to a methadone clinic, and do a 2-3 month taper, or perhaps taper down with Oxycontin, sticking to a strict taper schedule, and only taking them in time-release fashion. However, the latter option assumes that you could stick to an extended taper by yourself, which I never could. I would certainly consider rehab. Couldn't you find a way to have your kids looked after for a month?
Anyway, I'd consider everything. If your life is on the line like mine was, what kind of future are you setting up for your kids by continuing to use? Would you rather they miss you for a month or two or have you or your husband gone forever? This thing only gets worse, which I am sure you have learned by now...
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