At least he's willing to try suboxone thats good...Go to suboxone.com It also is a opiate blocker so if he would try to get high off any pills it wouldn't work, but i'm not sure about heroine never went there and I've always ran the other way if I met someone on it
you can shoot up anywhere. it doesnt have to be in a vein. think about the injections the docs will give at the ER right into your hip or shoulder. Those can leave bruises. and by the way, both my TB tests done in detox programs were done on the inner part of my lower arm, between my elbow and wrist.
Your right, and when he is ready to help himself I will be here for him. I just wish he would loose the g/f as I feel she is holding him back. I fear the methadone is a cheap substitution for the oxy. He wants to go to an outpatient program that has suboxone.(not sure what this is??) He did show up today to go to the clinic on his own, and borrowed my other sons car to get there.I have been taking him when home,however I work all day on wednesday. I just hope and pray that he will be ready soon. Thankyou to all who have taken the time to talk to me your perspective is very helpful. I dont want to loose my son to this addiction.He told me the other night he thought he was going to die as he could not wake up from a dream where he was falling off a cliff and almost hit the bottom. Maybe this is symbolic. Thanks for the alanon suggestion,I need all the help I can get to stay strong and focused and ready to fight the fight for my sons life and my own mental health.
Hi and Welcome!
My heart breaks for you. I know you are trying to help him; however, as it has been said..HE needs to want it! It seems that he is not ready.
In that case, you need a little "tough love". I know it is hard. My mom did it with me and it damn near killed me, but it did get me clean. He is an addict and he will use you. And, so will she. I hate to see you have your heart broken over and over, as well as your bank account. If he doesn't go into a program, well, you just may have to let him go at some point.
Please keep us posted. Ask anything. I will pray for you all.
First, don't make assumptions about the sore on his arm, it could be his ppd test for T.B.
It's standard when you go on a clinic.
Do warn him that methadone is more addictive than anything else, it's a fill antagonist as opposed to a partial antagonist, like other opiates. The withdrawals last for weeks, the secondary withdrawals for up to a year or two (normal opiate withdrawal is 4 days, few months of secondary withdrawals tops).
So he shouldn't play around. Finish his detox properly. Use a clonidine detox after the methadone detox.
Otherwise, if he's living out of his car, without support from family, he's facing a VERY difficult recovery. No home, no money, leaves a person in a mental place where they start to get clean, realize how far down they've come, how far they have to go, and they just give up. And he will need to learn to accept he isn't trusted anymore, has to earn that trust again...and it will take more than a few days/weeks.
Ah, one other thing, there is something called "skin popping". It's where you inject under the skin...but almost no one does it, especially men. It's generally only done by people who have used up their veins, or have great difficulty getting an intravenous shot in (woman tend to have smaller veins than men, so they do this more than men).
First, don't make assumptions about the sore on his arm, it could be his ppd test for T.B.
It's standard when you go on a clinic.
Do warn him that methadone is more addictive than anything else, it's a fill antagonist as opposed to a partial antagonist, like other opiates. The withdrawals last for weeks, the secondary withdrawals for up to a year or two (normal opiate withdrawal is 4 days, few months of secondary withdrawals tops).
So he shouldn't play around. Finish his detox properly. Use a clonidine detox after the methadone detox.
Otherwise, if he's living out of his car, without support from family, he's facing a VERY difficult recovery. No home, no money, leaves a person in a mental place where they start to get clean, realize how far down they've come, how far they have to go, and they just give up. And he will need to learn to accept he isn't trusted anymore, has to earn that trust again...and it will take more than a few days/weeks.
Ah, one other thing, there is something called "skin popping". It's where you inject under the skin...but almost no one does it, especially men. It's generally only done by people who have used up their veins, or have great difficulty getting an intravenous shot in (woman tend to have smaller veins than men, so they do this more than men).