open fourm. what is our goal here.

[hippy]

my own personal experence here at this fourm has been a great help to me ever since i stumbled acrossed it back in feb /02
whhile i have been here i learned how to deal with the probleem
of getting off a 10 to 20 a day vike habit.
the good folk's here welcomed me ,and pointed me in the direction of the vitamine receipe here at the fourm known
as thomas's receipe. i started taking it right away and it helped
greatly in the area s of depression during withdrawls and lack of energy due to withdrawls.
along with the supportof the people here at the fourm i was able
to kick cold turkey. i still read the post everyday , and i try to reach out and answer any questions that i can.
there are other people here who have to take meds for severe pain issues. the people here at the fourm in this situation
are a great help to anyone dealing with such issues.
i have been around addicts that are clean an some that use,
and they all do there best to get along, we are a sensitive
lot. one of the hardest things for us to do is to ask for help,
amit when we are wrong, ask for direction. and sy wer are sorry.
these are secondary issues, the primary issues are geting off the drugsand dealing with pain and taking meds responsably for
real pain issues.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Msblacey]

I am sorry to hear about the alcohol..For some reason, that is my least favorite of the addictive substances..so i am not a big drinker.  i actually did quit the methadone, but it took vicodin to cure the pain.  i feel so sorry for anyone that is on it and has not yet experinced those withdrawls..And you cannot taper off of it like other opiates, either way you feel like you are dying..so if anyone ever asks you about it..tell them to get ready for a month of hell, unless they seek some serious aid like i did.  i know what you mean about bmac and hippi, they have been thru the worst.  anyways, be careful of the klonopin..benzos are addicting, i am sure you already know that..one time i abused valium for one week, taking 50 mgs a day. i hallucinated the first day of withdrawls!  It was wierd.

anyhow, take care..and i will post again soon!  Glad to hear you are off codiene.  All of these damn pills are evil.


good night!
msblacey~

[puma]

msblacey,

I have not taken Methadone but there are a few here that have and have said withdrawal is terrible. There is the Thomas Formula, I am not sure if you have seen it, but it is commonly posted for the more uncomfortable symptoms. Hippee has it down pat.

I have gone through some hellacious withdrawals, but mainly Benzos and Codiene. From what I have been reading, (Bmac, and Hippee) are the ones to ask about Meth. They usually suggest tapering which you appear to be doing, That is good, COLD TURKEY/SUCKS..... no matter how you try it.

I am sure one of them will answer you soon, they have the experience. Mine is only Codiene, Klonopin and alcohol. Bad enough. I no longer take Codiene, but the damn alcohol is really a pain in my butt...... The Klonopin I take as directed. But Alcohol seems to haunt my brain cells into thinking I am getting something great and then I feel like ****. You would think logic could overcome it but it does not.

Thanks for posting,,,, I am sure you will get more intellegent answers for your concerns later on. Welcome again, good luck and God Bless.

Chatahan.........wildcat

[Msblacey]

Hey..Thanks for responding.  i am an opiate addict of 2.5 years..started on vicodin.  But nothing has be worse than withdrawling off methadone.  And my advice to take vicodin or some other opiate to get off it is not the best advice, but after 7 days and I felt no better...i just could not take it.  and some people think methadone withdrawls may be 3-5 days like other opiates..but is it NOT.  It is hell.  and i encourage anyone and everyone never to take that medicine..never.  I don't know if you have taken it, but it was hell.  I have not posted in over a month, so i thought i would give some advice to those who have questions about meth.  

Also, i have tried many pills to get off vicodin..the one that worked the best, got rid of the symptoms almost completely..was Ultracet, which is related to Ultram..it is the mildest of the opiates, and it is non-scheduled.  It really has worked to get off vicodin..if any one asks..that is a good alternative...and may work for percocet or other drugs as well.


msblacey

[puma]

mrsblacey,

I have not been in that situation, but thanks for responding because I am sure you will help a great many who are using and are afraid to ask or comment. Thanks for posting. Keep coming back in spite of the negative nonsense lately. That will be solved soon, maybe even me. That's okay. The forum needs people who have been through it to tell others. Thank you and God Bless.

Chatahan......wildcat

[Msblacey]

I have not posted in a long time.  But I have been addicted to most opiates, excluding heroin.  THE MOST HORRIFY WITHDRAWLS WERE FROM METHADONE.  That is the worst drug I ever put in my body.  And by day 7 I thought I was dying.  I had no idea how long the withdrawls would take.  So what did I do...I went to an Urgent Care, told them the truth...I was on methadone...going throught withdrawls...and I cannot take the pain. I was not concerned about anything but getting better.  So I got about 5 prescriptions for Vicodin.  And the withdrawls went away very soon.  then I started weening off the vics.  So this may be bad advice, but I would not have made it without some sort of strong pain killers.  And because of the vikes, I was medicated heavily during the worst of the methadone W/D, I could sleep, eat, ect..  You would be suprised at what a doc will give you if you are honest.  I did lie about my regular doc.  I told him that I lived out of town and that my doc was in another city.  That way he would not call or be skeptical about the vics.  but at that point..meds were the only thing that would help, and I was not taking methadone for addiction, I was taking it only for pain.  But they are the WORST withdrawls in the world.  My advice is gets some painkillers, then ween off those..I feel for all the methadone withdrawlers.  It is hell.
PS, vics even cleared the fog!

msblacey

[Msblacey]

I have not posted in a long time.  But i have been all all opiates, and addicted to most.  THE MOST HORRIFY WITHDRAWLS WERE FRO METHADONE.