split dosing Suboxone

[jojo110]

I am taking 14mg suboxone right now.  Not feeling great on day 7.  What is the best timing of a split dose?

[wait2long]

lowering your dose is good...because you dont want to be addicted to sub either...but you have to tell him how you are feeling maybe there is more he can do for you... ask about clonidine, for blood pressure it also works for withdrawals great!  

[jojo110]

I was taking an extremely high dose of oxycontin.  My doctor will not increase my dose, of that I am sure.  Not a nice guy to begin with.  I have to see him again tomorrow, and I know he will drop me down to probably 12mg, if not less.  Everytime I see him, he lowers my dose.  He does not ask how I feel.  

[wait2long]

i think at this point (7 days)your dose may be too low, but tell your sub doctor how you are feeling,   when it was time for me to lower dose, i felt depressed, i would sweat just sitting down, the constant blahs,   when i was feeling edgy and irritable is when i found i needed bigger dose (but i was physically ill too) for WDs...but talk to your doc first...pay attention to how uou REALLY feel...

[wait2long]

i am sorry, but i cant remember what you were taking before you started the sub.?  this is how it worked for me...BUT i was coming off methadone and TRULY beleive it is different for methadone patients (even my sub. doc, agreed)  i was taking 20 mg of meth a day, i waited almost 5 full days off meth before i took my 1st dose of sub., it immediately put me into precipitated withdrawals, first day i took 32 mgs over 4-6 hour time frame., sub. doc. thought the sub was actually making me feel worse because i still had too much meth in my system, so she cut me back the next day to no more than 12 mgs, i stayed on that for about 5-7 days, then i started waking up at 3 am in the morning "really sick"(stomach cramps, running to the toilet ALOT, vomiting, leg cramps) so at that point she added a split dose for me, i took 16 mgs. in the morning, then another 16mgs. about 10 hours later and it worked, i stayed on that dose for about 3 weeks, then took 16 mgs in the morn and 8 mgs at night,( at this point i was starting to feel worse again but not like withdrawals so i think thats when i came here and fladdict recommended me getting to as low of a dose as possible) i did that for about a week, then 16 mgs in the morning and 4mgs at night for about a week, then i cut out nighttime dose all together so was only taking just the 16 in the morning...and i have been gradually reducing my morning dose also...i am now down to 10 mgs in the morning only.   but i found that i really NEEDED that 32 mgs those 3 weeks because of the methadone finally leaving my system...but after a while the suboxone can make you feel worse if dose is too high, i really beleive that because i am at a loewer dose now and i can actually say i am almost feeling GREAT!!! and i saw no difference in doses in my 7th week on (high dose compared to lower dose) other than feeling better on lower dose... but because of me switching from methadone it was extremely difficult to find dose that would work for me during the first 5-6 weeks...   i hope this helps you... keep me posted hun...but always talk to your sub doc. before you make your own changes just in case...

[jojo110]

I seem to be very edgy and irritable.  Did you experience this, and if so, did it go away when you lowered your daily dose?  I am always on the verge of biting someones head off for things that would not bother me normally.

[jojo110]

Yes, I am seeing a doctor.  I am following his orders.  He also believes in tapering down. I am just trying to find out if split dosing daily would work better for me, rather than taking my whole dose in the morning.  

[FLaddict]

Please don't get yourself hyped up..Not everyone feels great the first couple days. Even I felt strange until I got down to 4mgs or less.. It can make you speedy, sweaty, and trouble focusing. I just want to play devils's advocate. Some people say it makes them feel "normal"  as addicts our sense of normal is quite diluded..  It can and will help with symptoms of withdrawls.. but its capabilities end there. After that everyone is different. Some feel lousy on it the whole time. Others feel good enough to work and function but don't feel 100%. Some people get energy and get hooked on the stuff. And take it forever only to find it bites them is the azz after awhile.
Use it as a tool.. a tool to get yourself on the otherside, don't have great expectations of it.. In case you are one of the ones that it makes feel lousy.

XOXO

[TJack]

Does a dr. recommend to you how much to take?  Are you seeing a dr. while doing this?  This is kind of scary to me as i will start taking the stuff on Sept. 10 and I have myself all hyped up that I will feel GREAT.  Hope Fladdicts advice of taking less will help you.  Please post.  thanks. tjack

[FLaddict]

It could help you feel better... Take 6 this morning and 6 later..Or 8 this morning and 4 later.. what ever combo you choose.. Most people feel more normal on lower doses..

[jojo110]

You think I should go down to 12mg?  Also, how should I split the dose?  Thanks again.

[FLaddict]

YOu may be feeling bad because you dose is too high.. I see it here all the time and even wait2 experienced it. Try cutting back today.. just 2mgs and see if you notice a difference tommorrow..

[jojo110]

hello again!!  I can always count on the same two people to help me.  You and Fladdict are angels.  I pretty much don't feel good at all.  Its been over a week now and I can go to work but after I am ready for bed.  I have also been on Prozac for many years, and I stopped taking it altogether a few months ago.  Big mistake.  Didn't recognize my depression while I was high.  I started taking it about 5 days ago, so I know when that kicks in I will feel a little better.  Yesterday, I took 8mgs in the morning, and then the other 6mg at about 2:00.  I just don't know the best way to take it to get the most benefit from it.  Please help if you can.  Thanks so much, you guys!!

[wait2long]

how long does your dose last until you start to feel like **** again?

[FLaddict]

I would take 7mgs and then 7mgs about 7-8 hours later....