what are the best non opiate pain medacations to take for addicts.

[hippy]

i am an addict and have been clean for 13 months , with
help from the folks here at this fourm, and my involvement
with N.A. meetings.
i have  painfull arthritis in both knees, and have rotator
cuff operation on both shoulders, these problems flare up with pain now and then.
right now i am suffering from severe pain in my elbow ,
do to possible tennis elbow, this started last augest.
At that time i got a steroid injection which seemed to deal with the problem, except all the pain came back about 2 months
ago i have had to take off from my union construction painting
job for the last 3 weeks . Hopeing that rest would help, it has not. I have been prescribed celebrex, it has done nothing for the paini have tried motrin , it has been no help.
i go to see the ortho doctor friday morning. i was wondering
if there is any pain medacation i should ask for .
My sister inlaw is a doctor and has told me i should have it put in a cast, , because the doctor is probly going to just give me another injection.
at age 43  it seem i do not heal as well as i used to,
i was thinking of asking for some kind of therapy program to
streng then the arm.
The pain has been very bad in the morning, i cannot even hold a cup of coffee, or the phone.
any suggestions, about a good medacation would be helpfull,
along with any other helpfull ideas.

peace!!!!!!!!hippy

[FLaddict]

You posted on a really old thread from 2003 This post will get lost in the mix of new posts from today. I highly recommend starting a new post. Scroll down to "back to forum" click there then click "post a question" on the main page. that way current members can give you advice.

I would stay away from the valium if you have abused them in the past. Can you take a few days off to just go cold turkey??  Since you were only back on for a month you are more than likely prolonging the withdrawals by tapering now. I am a advocate of tapering but i think in your case you should just get it over with.

[silvery]

Tomorrow I will be on day 4 of a tapering method I'm using based on my supply. I have some 10mg oxycodon and some hydrocodone...each day I cut back by 10-20mg - I know its a fast taper but its the right time of the year for me to do this. I was clear of addiction to pain medications but then had a minor surgery and doc put me back on meds and I slowly started to take more and more each day to relieve the pain. I realized that I was 'abusing' and now I remember what withdrawal was like before and I want to ask what is your opinion of tapering? Am I pronlonging the withdrawal symptoms? It sucks to be at work all day feeling like I have the flu but I am managing. I think I don't use as much as most people here seem to so I hope my time in this hell will pass quickly. Before tapering, I was doing about 80mg - 100mg a day for approx a month. Today I took 30mg, tomorrow I will take my last 20mg then cross my fingers. By the way should I try some valium to deal with the anxiety? I am afraid of getting addicted to them as I have been using them in the past in large recreational doses (40mg at a time).

silver y

[suzieneedshelp]

This is a board about substance abuse.. to help / support/ answer questions, etc in those regards.  I am trying my best to work on tolerance and acceptance of myself and others.  This is part of my recovery program.  No matter wut religion or lack of religion, can we try to keep it off this board and get back to our purpose here plz?  I try to remember, there may be one here for the very first time seeking info on addiction as i came last September.  I was in such distress and all this extraneous stuff may have put me off and i may be dead now instead of in recovery!  I am not being melodrammatic...truley.
I apologise for my non relevant/ non purposeful posts in the past as well.
Peace and love to all of you who seek to come here to help or be helped.
Suzie

[hippy]

thank you , to everyone for you caring input,
i will see the doc tommorow.
i'll probly just settle for the steroid injection and hope for the best.

peace!!!!!!!!!hippy

[mrmichael67]

I am very cautious when it comes to the use of nsaids.  I have had my stomach ripped up from them.  Believe me, during my time with my back problems, I have ingested plenty.  This is a good article on the issue of nsaids:  http://www.healthsentinel.com/NSAIDs/

As you can see, nsaids can actually be detrimental to your health with chronic use.  And, that is quite an understatement.  I usually don't write about them because they usually aren't discussed here.  I have seen countless people complain of stomach problems from using the nsaid of their choice.  One thing, vioxx and celebrex are supposed to be better on the stomach.

[Kurt Cobain]

All right. . .I had hoped to avoid this subject as long as possible, but here goes.  The following statements reflect only MY personal beliefs, experiences, and feelings -- they are not presented as "right" or "the Only Way" or anything else intended to "pump me up" and put down the feelings/beliefs of others.

1.  I believe in God.  Too many things have happened to me that have been entirely inexplicable via "rational" or "natural" means for me to believe otherwise.  If not the "God" who is a White Male who looks surprisingly like Charlton Heston, then *some* Force that is interested in the well-being of us inferior beings -- and is Him/Her/Itself (because I don't see how a Being or Force as vast as this can "be" male or female) *bound by certain laws that cannot be broken -- even by God*.  One of the most primary of these is our right to FREE WILL.  Obviously, this is REGARDLESS what we choose to do with it -- whether it is worship "God", go to "a church", help our "neighbor", or "beat the **** out of old ladies and take all their money".  The God/Force that I believe in certainly does not LIKE us to do these things and would STOP us if He/She/They were able to do so. . .but I think that the Universe was set up this way specifically for minimum "outside influence" on the outcome of our actions. . .whatever path they may take.

2.  I believe in God's Opposite.  AKA Satan, Lucifer, the Devil, the Very Bad Man, or any other analog in any other culture's teachings.  Again, there is too much evidence to the contrary for me to disbelieve.  Actually, I think that, these days, Satan/Baddie or whomever as well as their Legions must be really, amazingly ******* BORED since we humans seem to be doing most of their job ON EACH OTHER with AMAZINGLY little need for any "influence from the Dark Side."  I imagine sweeping cutbacks, demons cleaning out their desks, bitching about being "downsized" and making veiled threats about going to work for the Competition down the line.  But seriously. . .we humans do tool up on each other with such clocklike regularity that the Powers of Darkness must have to do very little to set the whole thing in motion. . .and, for the record, I think that drugs are one of their absolute favorite things.  At best, they help to inspire evil things, like theft, deception, lies, and the breaking of bonds between people who love one another.  At the very least, they render the user ineffectual, unable and unwilling to do anything good for anyone else.  It takes them out of the game, so to speak.

As far as the rest of it goes. . .yes, I am oriented towards Christianity.  And, yes, "fundamentalist Christians" who profess that theirs is "the only way" and you are "going to Hell" if you don't believe exactly as they do **** ME THE **** OFF.  Excuse the outburst, but honestly. . .I don't think there's been ANY OTHER SINGLE GROUP of people, including, but not limited to: Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Satan Worshippers, even Jehovah's Witnesses -- who have turned as MANY people as BITTERLY AWAY from Christianity as have rabid, foam-at-the-mouth, bullying "Christian" fundamentalists.  Without exception, everyone I have ever met who has been what I would call "anti-Christian" has, at one time (or several) in their lives been set upon by one or more of these. . ."soldiers for God."  Satan must be LAUGHING HIS FIERY ASS OFF at the irony.

Well, that said, let me just help out those of you who may feel inclined to tell me about myself.  As a time-saver, I will list some of the more popular responses I expect to get from this tirade:

1.  You're goin' to Hell, boy.
2.  You can't be a "real" Christian.
3.  You obviously don't know The Bible.
4.  You're just stupid.
5.  Um. . .you're goin' to HELL, boy, you know that, don't you?

To all of which I will reply. . .whatever, dude.  Unlike many of those I meet, I will at least RESPECT you AND your opinions and beliefs enough to let you have them without trying to make you feel bad.  The God I believe in is big enough not to be damaged by something like the Church of the Cosmic Star Goat, or anything else that may come down the pike. . .in fact (and as final proof that yes, I will Burn Eternally in the Fires of Perdition), I think God actually finds **** like that amazingly funny.  Honestly. . .how could you run a Universe like THIS one without having a sense of humor?

Okay, I'm done. . .as usual, sorry for having offended anyone. . .but NOT for what I believe.  And no, I will NOT engage in pointless debate or defense of the things said here.  As they are MY OWN beliefs, I don't need to "prove" them to myself. . .and I respect all of you too much to try to force them upon you like an attorney arguing a case.

Peace,

Kurt