You and Body Mechanic are usually the ONLY ones who respond to me...maybe it's my name? Thanks for the info..I am not gonna let them get away for this..especially because of thier attitudes there when they didn't believe me that I din't ever do Cocaine or Meth's...the counselor looked at me straight in the face and said "tests don't lie".....when my second lab only 1hr later came back clean, I got NO apologies just then saying they lab must have made a mistake..I will definately look into the Better Business Bureau. You know, we go to these places for help and they use our vunderability against us. WHy would they say $3000.00 cash but charge an insurance company triple?? That is ridiculous! I KNOW my ins company will not pay that much. It took the nurse 8 hrs just to get an approval for 24 hrs.
Anyway, thanks so much for always listening and answering my posts. I wish everyone else here would do the same. I try to help as much as I can, and I know there are alot of good people here who help, but sometimes only the same FEW listen and answer
This is a little off the thread here, but I just had an experience that I think is a lesson for us all. This morning, I had the maintenance guy in my apartment to fix my stove. I came home this evening, and thought I smelled gas. I went over to check the burners and next thing I know I had 3 foot flames coming up the wall behind the stove. Luckily, I've always kept a fire extinguisher next to the stove, so I was able to knock the fire right down. I was worried it could flare back up and the extinguisher was emtpty, so I ended up with the Fire Dept here who shut all the gas down.
The point is, if I was still using and had been "high", there would have been NO WAY I would have reacted as quickly. So think about all the close calls we avoided when we were using, and how easily we could have hurt or killed ourselves, our families, our loved ones. For me it is a lesson that clean and sober is the only way to survive, and that "escaping" reality can only lead away from this world, and you CAN take others with you, so you're not just putting yourself at risk, but those around you as well.
Anyway, thanks for listening, and I hope you got my point. Sorry if I rambled a bit, but I thought it was a good lesson for us all. Now I need to clean this place up.
Sundown
no problem, i will always bw there to answer any question.
if i do not it means i am out for a while , but i read the post twice a day morning and night.
peace and good luck.
ps. it is always good to get a recomendation from someone
when dealing with these places.
the only one s i would trust is the christian rehabs.
tho i have never been to detox or rehab in my 30 years of
involvement with doing drugs and not doing drugs.
i can not stand to be confined. by the way a lot of the people who work at the rehabs and detoxs are aa members and na members who can't get a real job.
and i love na, but there are a lot of a holes there to .
for some of them it is a ego trip and thwy forget where they come from. to me they are prostuting there questionable recovery.
i think recovery should be givn freely as it was given to them
Oh my gosh! Thank goodness you reacted so quickly! I would've froze. Thank goodness you are ok..much damage? WHen I was on Hydro's, I was in such a fog, slow moving, forgetful. SO, you're right about the reflexes! Good luck with the cleanup!
Hippee--thanks so much for always being there! To me, this is better than any AA meeting...I find that MEN always try to use my vunerability there...And it's not my imagination..a couple of people there said that there are some holes in AA..some men go there just to get women who are in treatment..pretending that they understand..blah blah blah..but I do know all AA meetings or PA meeting are not like that. Just some.
No offense to you men here...I know not everyone is like that..so I aplologize if I offended someone here.
Hippie
"Loose lips sink ships" is an expression you do not hear very much any more. At one time it was cliche. It was an expression used by President Rossevelt during the second world war. I meant that if you had any information about shipping keep quiet about it. ie my boyfriend being shipped to France this week on the Queen Anne. If the information got out then the German u-boats would know where it would be and shink it. It was sort of a flip remark. What I meant was to tell as few people as possible and be very discrete about who you tell.
Lizzie
Medical offices, hospital and especially detoxes do this all the time. It is called a double billing schedual and it is against the law. You can make a big deal about it by getting a written bill from the detox and then sending it to the insurance company. It will probably be a waste of time. In my opinion dextoxes are the biggest waste of money. They give you inadaquate medication, treat you rudely, bring you to an AA meeting and kick you out when your insurance runs out. There is nothing that they can do for you that you can't do for yourself. In my city there is a 7-10 outpatient, methadone or bupenorphine, your choice and that will cost you $200.00 cash. If you need support go to 3 12 step meetings a day and ask someone to help you. AA/NA people are usually very good about supporting those in very early sobriety. If there is no outpatient detox in your area, this site has many detox methods to fit almost any drug and budget. I have posted the Joseph recipe a few times. There is also the Thomas recipe. I see no reason why both cannot be used at the same time. Either way I suggest you **** these money sucking, insensitive assholes that run these detoxes and use the very knowlegable people on this forum to help you.
Peace