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withdraw while still on the drug (Valium)
I have been taking valuim for 6 years...started taking only 6mg and now only taking 8mg per day. It was prescribed to me 6 years ago by a neuro because I had a slipped disc in my lower back and was having muscle spasms.
Now I know I am addicted to it, and I have brought the matter up to my PCP and he told me that the dose is low and that I should stay on it because I some musclular-skelatal (spelling) problems in my whole back and neck, BUT if I want to stop taking it, I should slowly wean myself off of it. I have no other know medical problems besides what is stated above.
Now....I get periods of tremors and shakes that last for a few hours and cause me to get into a state of anxiety. They start usually just before I retire...I will be reading a book and I suddenly feel 'off' and can't read anymore and by time I get to bed, I feel like I am about to explode into shakes, yet I do not feel cold and my heart rate is stable and my breathing (though I become very aware of my breathing) is normal. This is not an anxiety attack, because I use to have them when I was young and they are very different. Is this a symptom of withdraw from the valium though I am taking it still?
Now I know I am addicted to it, and I have brought the matter up to my PCP and he told me that the dose is low and that I should stay on it because I some musclular-skelatal (spelling) problems in my whole back and neck, BUT if I want to stop taking it, I should slowly wean myself off of it. I have no other know medical problems besides what is stated above.
Now....I get periods of tremors and shakes that last for a few hours and cause me to get into a state of anxiety. They start usually just before I retire...I will be reading a book and I suddenly feel 'off' and can't read anymore and by time I get to bed, I feel like I am about to explode into shakes, yet I do not feel cold and my heart rate is stable and my breathing (though I become very aware of my breathing) is normal. This is not an anxiety attack, because I use to have them when I was young and they are very different. Is this a symptom of withdraw from the valium though I am taking it still?
Ambien is not a benzo but interacts with some of the same receptors in the brain. I would infer from this that some of Ambien's effects will be similar to that of a benzo.
Rxlist: "While zolpidem [Ambien] is a hypnotic agent with a chemical structure unrelated to benzodiazepines, barbiturates, or other drugs with known hypnotic properties, it interacts with a GABA-BZ receptor complex and shares some of the pharmacological properties of the benzodiazepines. In contrast to the benzodiazepines, which non-selectively bind to and activate all three omega receptor subtypes, zolpidem in vitro binds the (w1) receptor preferentially."
Even though I'm coming out of a two-year benzo habit and still have a wopping tolerance to them, Ambien dropped me when I tried it. I suspect that with repeated use I'd become tolerant of Ambien and probably go for those chocolate donuts, too. I have been known to raid the donuts at midnight, but there's never anything left of them in the morning. Your experience does sound like something I'd do on benzos.
Sonata, another non-benzo, is an interesting drug. Because of the way it works, I'd choose it for sleep over anything else. It puts you to sleep within 15 or 20 minutes. And I mean, you should be tucked in and ready to go because you're goin'. Sonata then leaves the body within 2 or 3 hours, which means no morning drug hangover. The only thing is, if you wake frequently throughout the night, you may not get back to sleep. In my limited experience with Sonata, I could wake in the night and still felt the drug putting me back to sleep.
Thomas
Rxlist: "While zolpidem [Ambien] is a hypnotic agent with a chemical structure unrelated to benzodiazepines, barbiturates, or other drugs with known hypnotic properties, it interacts with a GABA-BZ receptor complex and shares some of the pharmacological properties of the benzodiazepines. In contrast to the benzodiazepines, which non-selectively bind to and activate all three omega receptor subtypes, zolpidem in vitro binds the (w1) receptor preferentially."
Even though I'm coming out of a two-year benzo habit and still have a wopping tolerance to them, Ambien dropped me when I tried it. I suspect that with repeated use I'd become tolerant of Ambien and probably go for those chocolate donuts, too. I have been known to raid the donuts at midnight, but there's never anything left of them in the morning. Your experience does sound like something I'd do on benzos.
Sonata, another non-benzo, is an interesting drug. Because of the way it works, I'd choose it for sleep over anything else. It puts you to sleep within 15 or 20 minutes. And I mean, you should be tucked in and ready to go because you're goin'. Sonata then leaves the body within 2 or 3 hours, which means no morning drug hangover. The only thing is, if you wake frequently throughout the night, you may not get back to sleep. In my limited experience with Sonata, I could wake in the night and still felt the drug putting me back to sleep.
Thomas
Is ambien a benzo? I thought you might know. I was reading Ms.Ashton's website and she had ambien listed. I want to get off ambien because I have been sleepwalking everynight. I go to the icebox and start eating ... I wake up with chocolate donuts in my bed. It's awful! I'm so embarassed ... what about Sonata?
I appreciate your help ... I wish I could sleep.... z z z z
I appreciate your help ... I wish I could sleep.... z z z z
Good for you! That was the hardest thing flushing those Oxys! I swear they were calling my name from the pill bottle! LOL! You are headed in the right direction. I hope that taper works for you. Everyones body is different. For me, I would have tapered from the Oxys and then switched to the shorter acting morphine tabs. My body needed the longer acting pills. I could feel when the meds slowed down. Keep up the good work... let me know how you are doing, you are not alone!
don't use the L-Tyrosine until you're done with the opiates. If used too soon, L-Tyrosine can increase anxiety.
I've never seen the orange morphine sulfate pills, but they sounds yummy from here!
Thomas
I've never seen the orange morphine sulfate pills, but they sounds yummy from here!
Thomas
Hey Team,
Wanted to apprise y'all of a website I was steered to some time ago that enables you to check ALL interactions, including even good ol' aspirin.
Web site is: http://www.aidsmeds.com/Interactions.asp
I initially thought it was aid (ing) meds & once on the site I saw it was for aids patients & thought, well, they won't be able to help me with the plethora I take every day as most are of the garden variety & that which I need to do that living thing!
My initial impression was very wrong. I urge you to check it out becausr the info, includes some food interac. Grapefruit juice for florinef (I take for low bl. pressure)? Nice my specialist, noted as one of the top in North American never mentioned that one to me. As to the rest, well, it was indeed enlightening. I was in no way surpriused by the CNS depressant, interactions, et al from "the pills" but it was the rest of it that dang near blew my pantyhose off!
I noted this AM that someone inquired about the Benadryl & Traza...? combo & thought how many x I'd seen those type of questions. And I've only been aboard your sturdy ship a mo. or so!
I urge you all to check it out. If my anti depressants, synthroid, low bl. pressure meds et ALL are there, y'all just check out your interactions if you are concerned. BTW; they even have herbs 'n stuff included.
Kilo....your post this AM made ma laugh so loud I had to assume the supine & elevate my feet. You are positively insufferable & I shall surely get back to you.
I already know you are into fast fwd mode twd success so I mis-read much of your post & with a piece on Texas still waitin', I'd best get to it...HUH? (Hey, I spent 10 yrs. in the US & may I add, the best yrs. of my life?).
As to insomnia sailor, you think you're going to get my pity?
;-) I did an all-nighter & I am still going thru this bizarre insomnia & malaise which stuns me.
All that aside, you & Engaged Go! Both your attitudes are so inspiring & we're rootin' for ya. (Pardon, into Texasese).
As to the rest of your missive, I'll get back to you in a jiffy because I don't *think* I entirely read you wrong. But your passion & heart are in the right place & that is what will drive your pony back to the barn.
BTW; can someone tell me why we seemed to receive unlimited postings yesterday & when I saw there was 1 question this AM (6AM), I thought I'd send off the interaction info. 5:30 PST it was closed to questions...unless I want to pay. Yeah, for a NON-profit organiz. they sure have a lot of new advertisers & supporters, beaucoup pop-ups, links to drug co,'s & the previous sponsors are rather august to say the least.
Alright back to the south. Y'all take reeel good care of yerself, ya hear?
Best,
Dancing in the Dark
Wanted to apprise y'all of a website I was steered to some time ago that enables you to check ALL interactions, including even good ol' aspirin.
Web site is: http://www.aidsmeds.com/Interactions.asp
I initially thought it was aid (ing) meds & once on the site I saw it was for aids patients & thought, well, they won't be able to help me with the plethora I take every day as most are of the garden variety & that which I need to do that living thing!
My initial impression was very wrong. I urge you to check it out becausr the info, includes some food interac. Grapefruit juice for florinef (I take for low bl. pressure)? Nice my specialist, noted as one of the top in North American never mentioned that one to me. As to the rest, well, it was indeed enlightening. I was in no way surpriused by the CNS depressant, interactions, et al from "the pills" but it was the rest of it that dang near blew my pantyhose off!
I noted this AM that someone inquired about the Benadryl & Traza...? combo & thought how many x I'd seen those type of questions. And I've only been aboard your sturdy ship a mo. or so!
I urge you all to check it out. If my anti depressants, synthroid, low bl. pressure meds et ALL are there, y'all just check out your interactions if you are concerned. BTW; they even have herbs 'n stuff included.
Kilo....your post this AM made ma laugh so loud I had to assume the supine & elevate my feet. You are positively insufferable & I shall surely get back to you.
I already know you are into fast fwd mode twd success so I mis-read much of your post & with a piece on Texas still waitin', I'd best get to it...HUH? (Hey, I spent 10 yrs. in the US & may I add, the best yrs. of my life?).
As to insomnia sailor, you think you're going to get my pity?
;-) I did an all-nighter & I am still going thru this bizarre insomnia & malaise which stuns me.
All that aside, you & Engaged Go! Both your attitudes are so inspiring & we're rootin' for ya. (Pardon, into Texasese).
As to the rest of your missive, I'll get back to you in a jiffy because I don't *think* I entirely read you wrong. But your passion & heart are in the right place & that is what will drive your pony back to the barn.
BTW; can someone tell me why we seemed to receive unlimited postings yesterday & when I saw there was 1 question this AM (6AM), I thought I'd send off the interaction info. 5:30 PST it was closed to questions...unless I want to pay. Yeah, for a NON-profit organiz. they sure have a lot of new advertisers & supporters, beaucoup pop-ups, links to drug co,'s & the previous sponsors are rather august to say the least.
Alright back to the south. Y'all take reeel good care of yerself, ya hear?
Best,
Dancing in the Dark
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