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zyban side effects
Is zyban known to cause temporary impotence or erectile dysfunction? I've been on zyban for 4 weeks now and in the last 3 or 4 days i've had trouble with my sex life. Can you help?
danielincc:
you actually think your character is so free of defect that you
can call anyone on this forum rude? oh, i forgot your a substance
abuse professional councelor type. don't you have a client who's
program you can run? it wouls seem to me if your not busy you
could put your nose up your coucelor supervisor ***.
there is always room for one more addict who needs fellowship &
would maybe like to ask another addict's advice. i am of the
opinion however, we don't need no "top gun professional substance
abuse counselor!" anyone else have an opinion about this?
keep an angel on your shoulder!
kio
you actually think your character is so free of defect that you
can call anyone on this forum rude? oh, i forgot your a substance
abuse professional councelor type. don't you have a client who's
program you can run? it wouls seem to me if your not busy you
could put your nose up your coucelor supervisor ***.
there is always room for one more addict who needs fellowship &
would maybe like to ask another addict's advice. i am of the
opinion however, we don't need no "top gun professional substance
abuse counselor!" anyone else have an opinion about this?
keep an angel on your shoulder!
kio
Well, I see the charming one is back. I was hoping you had found another board to torment.
Danielincc, do me a favor. One day, try to post a new question.
See how far you get. I have tried several times when I'm in need of support from my friends (and that doesn't mean from you) and it is impossible to post a new question. It's usually reached it's limit of new questions. The only time I've been able to post is around 3:00 am.
So I have no choice but to post under a thread. But if you notice, most of us do try to help the person with the original question. WE JUST CAN'T POST A NEW QUESTION. GOT IT?
Besides, if you notice when you post a comment in a thread it says
"Post a Comment
(Please do not post a new question here. This form is for patient-to-patient
COMMENTS only and is not monitored by the forum staff.)"
Sometimes we just like to talk and don't always need a dr. comment. So just how do you suggest we all talk amongst ourselves? Find another board? You'd probably just follow us there and raise some more hell. You've made enough enemies here. Why don't you lay low for awhile. If you are in the business of helping people....I feel sorry for the people you "help."
Maybe you don't understand the concept of us being friends and wanting to talk to each other. Do you even know what a friend is or how to be one?
Danielincc, do me a favor. One day, try to post a new question.
See how far you get. I have tried several times when I'm in need of support from my friends (and that doesn't mean from you) and it is impossible to post a new question. It's usually reached it's limit of new questions. The only time I've been able to post is around 3:00 am.
So I have no choice but to post under a thread. But if you notice, most of us do try to help the person with the original question. WE JUST CAN'T POST A NEW QUESTION. GOT IT?
Besides, if you notice when you post a comment in a thread it says
"Post a Comment
(Please do not post a new question here. This form is for patient-to-patient
COMMENTS only and is not monitored by the forum staff.)"
Sometimes we just like to talk and don't always need a dr. comment. So just how do you suggest we all talk amongst ourselves? Find another board? You'd probably just follow us there and raise some more hell. You've made enough enemies here. Why don't you lay low for awhile. If you are in the business of helping people....I feel sorry for the people you "help."
Maybe you don't understand the concept of us being friends and wanting to talk to each other. Do you even know what a friend is or how to be one?
I do not think it is right for you all to hijack this thread! This person had a legitimate question about zyban. It's rude, period! I am sure their other ways to communicate w/out highjacking this thread.
I know that Zyban and Wellbutrin are both used for depression and smoking cessation. These two drugs are generally used because
they DO Not cause sexual side effects compared to other anti- depressants such as prozac,zoloft,and paxil. But any drug can effect your libido or sex drive! I have red some instances where zyban has been prescribed to improve sexual relations. Take a look at other things, such as nutrition,exercise, and whether or not you are getting enough rest. All these things are important and essential for a healthy sexual interaction.
Best of Luck.
Danincc
I know that Zyban and Wellbutrin are both used for depression and smoking cessation. These two drugs are generally used because
they DO Not cause sexual side effects compared to other anti- depressants such as prozac,zoloft,and paxil. But any drug can effect your libido or sex drive! I have red some instances where zyban has been prescribed to improve sexual relations. Take a look at other things, such as nutrition,exercise, and whether or not you are getting enough rest. All these things are important and essential for a healthy sexual interaction.
Best of Luck.
Danincc
Hello my friend, I truly mean that you are my friend. I think one of the most important and wonderful things about this forum is that we have developed friendships where there is complete honesty and no assumptions or judgements of how we look, dress, act, the car we drive and how much money we make. We are all brought together my a common problem but our friendships are so true because of our honesty and our true caring of one another. When you take a step back and look at our little family it is truly amazing. Can you only imagine what we would be like at a big BBQ or something like that!!!! I will host it ok I make wonderful appetizers. I actually think it would be hysterical to see everyone. I kind of have faces for everyone but am sure that I am so off on a lot of us. Here we have WW, a true wican and me born and raised a mormon yet I love her dearly and wonder if we would have ever met without this. Our family here is a true melting pot of our wonderful free society. Anyway Milo what is it going to be do you like silly funny movies, witty movies or movies that are supposed to be scary but are so dumb you end up laughing? Do you eat butter on your popcorn (YUK) I love real butter on popcorn though not that fake oil junk. Did you see "Rat Race" very silly movie if you can go just go and laugh. It is way past my bedtime and I haven't had a lot of sleep this week my 18 month old boy has been sick and waking up crying a lot this week. Do you have children milo? I am not sure I have heard you talk about them. You are a sweetie and look for a little red bird with a little sunshine and hope on his shoulder I am sending him your way. I will tell you the red bird story later. You are a special man. your friend - Jules
it's for sure now- if you like macs, every bit of the god's grace
will visit you... lets not talk about that othe machine-the devil's
******* box, and i don't do windows...except at work, where long
ago i sold my soul for cheap wine and job security.
in all seriousness, windows is almost as good a mac was 10 years
ago.
keep thinking, PUG, PUG, PUG.......... I'ld even bet if wiz were
here he would agree with me on the pug!
this forum not only saved my ass, gut i got some really neat people
to "bother" with my sometimes flawed thinking!
keep an angel on your shoulder!
kip
will visit you... lets not talk about that othe machine-the devil's
******* box, and i don't do windows...except at work, where long
ago i sold my soul for cheap wine and job security.
in all seriousness, windows is almost as good a mac was 10 years
ago.
keep thinking, PUG, PUG, PUG.......... I'ld even bet if wiz were
here he would agree with me on the pug!
this forum not only saved my ass, gut i got some really neat people
to "bother" with my sometimes flawed thinking!
keep an angel on your shoulder!
kip
Hey Kip, I've read Do Androids Dream ...and A Scanner Darkly. Great stuff. Now I need to check out your recommendations for these other novels.
I remember taking a statistics class back in '83 or so -- we ran data on punchcards through a foreboding mainframe ... Then I worked on an old Honeywell OAS for a while in '87 & '88. Now I'm a Mac person, though I was surprised to see how similar my friend's Gateway with Windows was...I never would have imagined skipping around the Web like I'm doing now. I used to be very intimidated by computers, and now they've opened up this whole new world for me. "Pugs Not Drugs" -- Milo
I remember taking a statistics class back in '83 or so -- we ran data on punchcards through a foreboding mainframe ... Then I worked on an old Honeywell OAS for a while in '87 & '88. Now I'm a Mac person, though I was surprised to see how similar my friend's Gateway with Windows was...I never would have imagined skipping around the Web like I'm doing now. I used to be very intimidated by computers, and now they've opened up this whole new world for me. "Pugs Not Drugs" -- Milo
i would like to appologise for the last post. sometimes i get so
wierd and boring...either that or incoherent! sorry to all who
tried to make sense of it.
need you all
kip
wierd and boring...either that or incoherent! sorry to all who
tried to make sense of it.
need you all
kip
yes Milo, we are truely blessed with the "cyber" revolution/evolution. i've worked in the field of "data communications" for over 20 years now. when i first started out it was a job with knight/ridder. this was the end of the 70's. most of the work involved teletype machines, linkert subsets, conologm modems, long haul telephone circuits terminated in c-111 coils. today were moving at giga speed (1000 million) bits per second. now i'm a book reader all the time, gotta have manythings
to read, ever hear of Philip K ****? the movies "total recall" and "blade runner" were both based on stuff he'ld written.
blade runner was based on the novel "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" total recall was based on a short story by **** called "Memories For Sale." Philip k ****'s most important works were in a serries of novels: "radio Free albemuth," "valis" (vast active living intelegence system), "the devine invasion," and the "transmigration of timothy archer." Philip K **** was a SPEED freak. anyhow he wrote all these books in the 1960's. he sort of predicted the internet. while he was writing these 4 novels he was also in the process of becoming a born again christian. good reading- take the short cut and read radio free albemuth and then the devine ininvasion. This man's writing is delightfullt para-
noid. he also really nails the internet and where it is headed,
perhaps. gees, listen to me...
now about that dog! from what i know of you, a Pug would be a
very good match for you. i am owned by a Keeshound. this breed is
an excellent match for kip's personality. remember my suggestion?
you can either name the dog after me, or appoint me as it's God
Father!
well i hope i didn't put anyone to sleep!
keep an angel on your shoulder!
kip
to read, ever hear of Philip K ****? the movies "total recall" and "blade runner" were both based on stuff he'ld written.
blade runner was based on the novel "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" total recall was based on a short story by **** called "Memories For Sale." Philip k ****'s most important works were in a serries of novels: "radio Free albemuth," "valis" (vast active living intelegence system), "the devine invasion," and the "transmigration of timothy archer." Philip K **** was a SPEED freak. anyhow he wrote all these books in the 1960's. he sort of predicted the internet. while he was writing these 4 novels he was also in the process of becoming a born again christian. good reading- take the short cut and read radio free albemuth and then the devine ininvasion. This man's writing is delightfullt para-
noid. he also really nails the internet and where it is headed,
perhaps. gees, listen to me...
now about that dog! from what i know of you, a Pug would be a
very good match for you. i am owned by a Keeshound. this breed is
an excellent match for kip's personality. remember my suggestion?
you can either name the dog after me, or appoint me as it's God
Father!
well i hope i didn't put anyone to sleep!
keep an angel on your shoulder!
kip
Hey there, Jules, I'm on the lookout for that redbird (and look forward to hearing the story). I don't have children but am seriously considering adoption -- of a dog -- and will let everyone know when I "start my family" (Kip has me thinking about pugs right now). Now my big confession, my favorite movies are scary ones! The spookier, the better -- though "so-bad-it's good" also has its appeal for me. I liked what you said about all of us from different places, walks of life,etc., becoming friends here...no preconceptions, no prejudice, but lots of understanding and kind hearts. Before I got into computers at all (not that I'm into them in the sense of being very proficient at them!), I used to puzzle over this new term, "cyberspace." Now I understand it as a place as "real" as any other, where we can meet and become friends. (A great way to get around social anxiety!) It's so easy for us to live in our self-contained worlds -- I've been so privileged to meet people here I might never have known otherwise. So I'll send you a Pekingese of Happiness in exchange for the redbird, how about that? -- Glad to be your friend, Milo
IF HIGHJACKING THIS THREAD RE: ZYBAN IS THE ONLY THING BEING HIJACKED THESE DAYS THAN I'D SAY WE ARE DOING PRETTY DAMN GOOD NOW AREN'T WE? CERTAINLY WE CAN FIND SOMETHING ELSE THAT FITS THE DESCRIPTION OF BEING RUDE,,LET'S SEE, HOW ABOUT HIJACKING 4 AIRPLANES AND RAMMING THEM INTO THE GROUND AND OH YEAH BUILDINGS TO...,,NOW THAT MY FRIEND IS RUDE................
The world's troubles are often caused by one track minds hitting head on. Daniel I find it hard to believe you sought out this forum for the intent of counseling people. Everyone has indictated the door is open...Just walk thru it. Sincerely, Shotsy
Katie r and kip are right on the money!!!!
You are completely and totally out of line.
Get a life!!!!
You are completely and totally out of line.
Get a life!!!!
I think our society tends to downplay or overlook the imporance of friendship as opposed to "official" relationships like family or marriage -- and so the end of a long/valued friendship isn't often recognized for how difficult and painful it really is. I can see how the end of a friendship can be as bad or worse than divorce. I've been through that pain myself, esp. when I didn't understand why it was happening -- no closure. Just last night, in fact, I had a sad dream about that very thing. I'm glad we can talk about it here. -- Little Milo
Thank you so much for your reply I do have to say that one of the reasons I have been afraid to break this off is that fact that I know she will make me look bad to mutual friends. That really bothered me more than I have wanted to admit. But guess what I have a clear conscience about what kind of a friend I have been and I doubt she can say the same and if she wants to try to make herself look good there isin't much I can do. I have been going through a lot of **** with her for quite a few years. She lives in Atlanta I am in NJ she has lived there for about 9 years and has come to visit 3 times where as I can't even count the amount of times I have been to see her. She missed my wedding because she was 6 months pregnant and tried to tell me it was because she was having braxton hicks contractions well guess what they are normal at 6 months I knew from the start she wouldn't be coming. It took her 3 years and a little tiff on the phone for her to finally visit. There is so much more to this I am sorry to bore you but it feels good to write about it. I truly think this breakup has been harder on me than my divorce I went through in my twenties!! UUGGHH Thanks for the ear love to all Jules
Yes, I recently had to "break up" with a best friend. I am 31 years old and we had been friends since we were 10 years old! It hurt and I had sleepless nights over it. She and I just started to grow apart and I just could not identify with her anymore. She wanted so much attention and sympathy from me that I just couldn't keep up with her demands anymore and we finally just got into a really nasty verbal argument (via email!) and that was the end of our friendship. I was supposed to be her matron of honor Saturday at her wedding and I ended up not even attending!! Then she went and told her parents all this nasty stuff about me (I have known them for like 20 years and they are like my parents) and it got to be a really bad situation. She was trying so hard to make me look bad because I have always been close to her family and we have all had mutual respect for each other. Luckily, her Mother and I have been talking about her behavior for the last 8 - 9 months over the phone and her Mom knew I was really fed up with her so it wasn't so bad. Her family is not taking sides but they agree with me and understand how I feel so that has made it a little easier. Funny thing, now that it's over, I actually feel relieved that I don't have to put up with her Bulls%@T anymore! I hope this has helped you. I have been reading this forum for over a year and post very unfrequently but felt the need to respond to you! Don't let it get you down sweetie! God Bless to all. Maryanne
Kip -- What a story...I can't even imagine what that must have been like for you. But I wholeheartedly believe you are right -- compassion & respect are the best response no matter how bad off someone may be. Please keep telling us those stories -- we need to hear them!
Jenny -- Bless your heart, it's my dad who's undergoing radiation & chemo right now. Fortunately he's halfway through, and they expect a complete recovery. Hope you're doing well! -- Little Milo
Jenny -- Bless your heart, it's my dad who's undergoing radiation & chemo right now. Fortunately he's halfway through, and they expect a complete recovery. Hope you're doing well! -- Little Milo
Hi Jules,
I'm sorry you are feeling so hurt and sad about loosing your friend.
I too went through this a while back. My best friend, growing up, and I had a falling out. She had moved down to Florida because she liked it here, with her new boyfriend. They ended up getting married, but her was a bad alcoholic. We just didn't have a whole lot in common anymore, and didn't really see eachother too often. (this has a good ending so hang in there). Anyway, they had a baby, and then she became pregnant again. During her second pregnancy, they decided to separate and then divorce. Well my friend had her husband's parents there to help them with ANYTHING, but she refused there help because she wanted to be controlling, and didn't want them to enjoy her 1st daughter. So instead, whenever she needed help with anything, it was ME that she called. She even called me to pick her up a cake while she was pregnant because she didn't want to drive because she was getting very pregnant. She was taking complete advantage of me, and i drew the line and told her i couldn't do it. We ended our friendship. A year or two later, i had a call from a neighbor of my friends whom i used to work with. My friends husband had hanged himself in their garage. He had a driving accident while drunk and was due to get sentenced that day, but decided to kill himself instead.
I sent my friend a card and told her if she needed me to call.... what a stupid ass i was, i should have gone running as fast as i could and made sure i was there for her, i'll never forgive myself for that. She called me a few years later, i was 8-months pregnant with my (now almost 9-year old daughter), she brought her two girls over, and we never talked about our falling out, and we've been friends ever since.
She now lives in Jacksonville,FL and i live 250 miles south. I just saw her and her, now three girls, for the first time in almost 6-years during 4th of July. She was the one who urged me to get my husband into treatment. She told me no one should suffer like he was suffering. She's known both of us for a long long time. We talk all the time now, so you never know what will happened in the future. She is now going through a second divorce from a man (who is her 3rd child's father). He's a mess, a recovered alcoholic, drug user, but has a lot of mental problems. We went to high school with him back in NJ.
Anyway, maybe things will work out between you and your friend, maybe not right way, but in the near future!
Good luck Jules!
Lv Jenny
I'm sorry you are feeling so hurt and sad about loosing your friend.
I too went through this a while back. My best friend, growing up, and I had a falling out. She had moved down to Florida because she liked it here, with her new boyfriend. They ended up getting married, but her was a bad alcoholic. We just didn't have a whole lot in common anymore, and didn't really see eachother too often. (this has a good ending so hang in there). Anyway, they had a baby, and then she became pregnant again. During her second pregnancy, they decided to separate and then divorce. Well my friend had her husband's parents there to help them with ANYTHING, but she refused there help because she wanted to be controlling, and didn't want them to enjoy her 1st daughter. So instead, whenever she needed help with anything, it was ME that she called. She even called me to pick her up a cake while she was pregnant because she didn't want to drive because she was getting very pregnant. She was taking complete advantage of me, and i drew the line and told her i couldn't do it. We ended our friendship. A year or two later, i had a call from a neighbor of my friends whom i used to work with. My friends husband had hanged himself in their garage. He had a driving accident while drunk and was due to get sentenced that day, but decided to kill himself instead.
I sent my friend a card and told her if she needed me to call.... what a stupid ass i was, i should have gone running as fast as i could and made sure i was there for her, i'll never forgive myself for that. She called me a few years later, i was 8-months pregnant with my (now almost 9-year old daughter), she brought her two girls over, and we never talked about our falling out, and we've been friends ever since.
She now lives in Jacksonville,FL and i live 250 miles south. I just saw her and her, now three girls, for the first time in almost 6-years during 4th of July. She was the one who urged me to get my husband into treatment. She told me no one should suffer like he was suffering. She's known both of us for a long long time. We talk all the time now, so you never know what will happened in the future. She is now going through a second divorce from a man (who is her 3rd child's father). He's a mess, a recovered alcoholic, drug user, but has a lot of mental problems. We went to high school with him back in NJ.
Anyway, maybe things will work out between you and your friend, maybe not right way, but in the near future!
Good luck Jules!
Lv Jenny
Hi Milo,
I'm sorry you are feeling so poorly these days with your treatment.
I've been way too busy, not getting nearly enough time to spend with all of my 'forum friends'!! Never forget how truly special you are, and if you do forget for some reason, there will always be someone on this board to remind you!!! :)
Take care, and i hope you feel better soon!!!!
((HUGS)) from a friend!
Lv Jenny
I'm sorry you are feeling so poorly these days with your treatment.
I've been way too busy, not getting nearly enough time to spend with all of my 'forum friends'!! Never forget how truly special you are, and if you do forget for some reason, there will always be someone on this board to remind you!!! :)
Take care, and i hope you feel better soon!!!!
((HUGS)) from a friend!
Lv Jenny
Wow, what a story. Not only did you not bore me, but i had to read your story twice!
You certainly have been there and back and then some!!!
I respect your strength, you're an amazing person, and don't you ever let anyone tell you different!!!!
I have my angel sitting there on my shoulder through the good times and the bad!!! Never hurts to have one closeby! :)
Lv Jenny
You certainly have been there and back and then some!!!
I respect your strength, you're an amazing person, and don't you ever let anyone tell you different!!!!
I have my angel sitting there on my shoulder through the good times and the bad!!! Never hurts to have one closeby! :)
Lv Jenny
friends seem to drop out of my life and then vanish inexplicabl
and then i'll be dammed, (some) just resurface!it has a spooky
effect sometimes, like my past (i have way to much oast) starts
breaking in to the present.
only 1 of the people i started out in heavy drug use is still
alive. when i was living in so. mpls we used to sit in the kit-
chen all night and get loaded on what ever was at hand(usually
black tar H and/or methadrine). grouch, my friend would drink
several pints of cabin still (stab and kill) whiskey. he would
also lick the residue out of the cooker spoon if you let him.
many nights he would put a beter buzz on his head than i could!
i did a midnight move out of mpls. yup just threw a blanket on
the floor, toss anything you wanted to keep, pickup all four
corners and start bookin'. see my house and the one on either
side was under survalance, but thats another story.
the next time i saw grouch was at the Minnesota regional AA
blow out. I'd been clean about a year and to my amazement he
had a year and a half clean. a new friendship started. after
a little bit of what ever happened to who, i learned that an
old shooting buddy was livining in the house i left so quickly
years before. i also learned this person was really in a struggle
trying to get clean. OF COURSE I HAD TO HELP. when i arrived at
his place he was just in the process of fixxing. it was awful
i sat and watched when i should have just walked out. when
he was done, i set about the task of really jumpping him
emotionally. i said things i will never forgive myself for say-
ing! i went back the next day to make amends for my behaivor.
the door to his house was slightly open, but no responce to a
nock. i went into the front room to find him all blue and quite
dead. his ty still around his arm and his rig still in his arm.
i had never seen an OD when i was clean! words fall short of
saying what i felt to this very day. i dialed 911 on his phone
and split. i know he put the dope in his arm that killed him,
but i wish i had not been so judgemental and program-pushy!!
maybe things would have been different if i'ld practiced a little
more humility and acceptance!
i'm still in touch with Grouch. he stayed sober 13 years, got
devorced from his wife and started using again. i see him several
times a year- he is usually wasted. although this is painful
for me, i believe i can help him more if i first respect our
friendship and never preach or cut off from him!
i've never told anyone about this....i hope i didn't bore anyone
telling it. Life is short, even shorter for a junky. the worst
hunk of drug using sludge, deserves to be treated with kindness
and repect that a "normal" person takes for granted.
Grouch: if you read this call me!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
and then i'll be dammed, (some) just resurface!it has a spooky
effect sometimes, like my past (i have way to much oast) starts
breaking in to the present.
only 1 of the people i started out in heavy drug use is still
alive. when i was living in so. mpls we used to sit in the kit-
chen all night and get loaded on what ever was at hand(usually
black tar H and/or methadrine). grouch, my friend would drink
several pints of cabin still (stab and kill) whiskey. he would
also lick the residue out of the cooker spoon if you let him.
many nights he would put a beter buzz on his head than i could!
i did a midnight move out of mpls. yup just threw a blanket on
the floor, toss anything you wanted to keep, pickup all four
corners and start bookin'. see my house and the one on either
side was under survalance, but thats another story.
the next time i saw grouch was at the Minnesota regional AA
blow out. I'd been clean about a year and to my amazement he
had a year and a half clean. a new friendship started. after
a little bit of what ever happened to who, i learned that an
old shooting buddy was livining in the house i left so quickly
years before. i also learned this person was really in a struggle
trying to get clean. OF COURSE I HAD TO HELP. when i arrived at
his place he was just in the process of fixxing. it was awful
i sat and watched when i should have just walked out. when
he was done, i set about the task of really jumpping him
emotionally. i said things i will never forgive myself for say-
ing! i went back the next day to make amends for my behaivor.
the door to his house was slightly open, but no responce to a
nock. i went into the front room to find him all blue and quite
dead. his ty still around his arm and his rig still in his arm.
i had never seen an OD when i was clean! words fall short of
saying what i felt to this very day. i dialed 911 on his phone
and split. i know he put the dope in his arm that killed him,
but i wish i had not been so judgemental and program-pushy!!
maybe things would have been different if i'ld practiced a little
more humility and acceptance!
i'm still in touch with Grouch. he stayed sober 13 years, got
devorced from his wife and started using again. i see him several
times a year- he is usually wasted. although this is painful
for me, i believe i can help him more if i first respect our
friendship and never preach or cut off from him!
i've never told anyone about this....i hope i didn't bore anyone
telling it. Life is short, even shorter for a junky. the worst
hunk of drug using sludge, deserves to be treated with kindness
and repect that a "normal" person takes for granted.
Grouch: if you read this call me!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
well,,,even when you don't have love per se (if you are talking about remantic love) it will happen when you least expect it..that's how it happened for me....but if it is love in general from friends etc....well I have news for little Milo...you are loved....genuinely loved....by me and the rest of us....write to me and i will send you my number if you need to talk i am here and don't worry about my husband he'll love you too LOL (hey I better be careful there lOL) love cin
What an angel you are. Ole Mr. Milo is feeling kind of rough right now, side effects of the treatments and all, but he's in good spirits, hanging in there, and best of all, halfway through his treatment! Little Milo probably feels the worse of the two! You're so, so right about friends. Unfortunately there are all too few of the true friends around...though I read one person quoted as saying that if he died with one true friend in this world, he'd feel lucky. It's ironic -- some people use drugs because all of their friends are using them...I use drugs to dull the ache of loneliness (friendship and especially love) in my life. Wow, I seem to be in a confessional mood this weekend! Oh, well, I'll be at work tomorrow, tapering from Fioricet to Donnatal, no one the wiser, and nothing changed for the better. Just call me the eternal optimist! Thanks for listening -- Little Milo
You are right,,,,,you will find out...Many people will walk in and out of your life but only true friends will leave footprints in your heart....My dear friend Brighty sent that to me today....and it is so true.....My best friends are my mom, my sister and of course my husband, they will be there forever for me and I for them....Doug is a little different...there are things I can tell him and he just doesn't get it lOL he can't relate to PMS, cramps, bloating LOL and i think i have said this before but since my mom died no one will ever love me like she did,,she was the one to tell me if my haircut was ugly, my jeans were too tight..allthough i have my sister to take care of that for my mom LOL I hope you have a great rest of the weekend and my regards to Mr. Milo.......Love cin
All I can say is, *AMEN*! One way or another you find out who your true friends are. Thank God I have friends, one in particular, who I know will be there for me forever...no matter how much "fair weather friends" may hurt me along the way. And on a personal note, your sharing your experience with your mother has helped me realize what a precious gift our parents are to us (or at least can be.) My relationship with both parents has improved 100%. Thank you (and the rest of my forum angels) for giving me a place to come without fear of judgment or condemnation. -- Milo
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