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Severe Pancreatitis
Since August of 2002, I have experienced four episodes of pancreatitis. In three of the episodes, my lipase levels were anywhere between 25,000 and 35,000. Although I have had my gall bladder removed and had a stent put in my pancreas to open a duct (which has since been removed because I developed sepsis), I continue to have pain in the upper right quadrant of my abdomen. I have regular bouts of putrid diarreha and my feces is polluted with small stones of yellow or brown color.
I recently developed pain in my periumbilical area and it was oozing with something that had the odor of bile. My internist is sending me to a surgeon today because he fears bowel obstruction. I eat nothing with fat or very little fat, I have lost over 25 pounds since I became ill. I recently developed thrombophlebitis in my left arm (which is still sore after almost a month) and my right shoulder and upper arm are sorer now than they were before my gall bladder was removed. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has had similar experiences or who has any insight into what is going on with me and what route they would suggest that I take would be appreciated.
I am the mom of three young daughters 13, 10 and 7 and really can't deal with being sick all the time. Please Help.
I recently developed pain in my periumbilical area and it was oozing with something that had the odor of bile. My internist is sending me to a surgeon today because he fears bowel obstruction. I eat nothing with fat or very little fat, I have lost over 25 pounds since I became ill. I recently developed thrombophlebitis in my left arm (which is still sore after almost a month) and my right shoulder and upper arm are sorer now than they were before my gall bladder was removed. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has had similar experiences or who has any insight into what is going on with me and what route they would suggest that I take would be appreciated.
I am the mom of three young daughters 13, 10 and 7 and really can't deal with being sick all the time. Please Help.
Lilly M,
Good luck to you in your surgery. I'd like to know the outcome if you'd like to post a NEW posting when the gallbladder has come out and the new bloodwork tests are back.
Be good to yourself in the mean time.
TazLady
Good luck to you in your surgery. I'd like to know the outcome if you'd like to post a NEW posting when the gallbladder has come out and the new bloodwork tests are back.
Be good to yourself in the mean time.
TazLady
tazlady thanks for your insight. Well, I went to the surgeon who has put me on an "urgent list" at the hospital to have my gallbladder removed. The surgeon (and my gp) feel that there is probably some inflamation there that is causing such pain. He ordered standard blood tests (liver enzymes and cbc). Now for the new mystery. My liver enzymes are slightly elevated which he said is quite normal considering the condition of the gallbladder however, he's concerned about my limphocite count which he said is about 10 points over the top of the range. He advised me to visit my gp. So...my gp, as he was worried about my pain in the left and right bottom area of my ribs sent me for x-rays and ...once again, blood tests (cbc). It turned out that my limphocite count was up another 9 points above what it was only 3 days prior from the blood tests I had with the surgeon. My doctor checked my blood test results from my physical from September and they were 4 points over but nothing to worry about. So it has progressively increased over the last 6 months.
So, if I wasn't worried before, I certainly am now. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the increased pain over the last couple of weeks. I've learned that it could be one of 2 things basically - either Lukemia or some accute internal organ inflamation. I am hoping that it is the latter and I believe it probably is with the gallbladder pain. My gp is very good and he has said the same thing. His plan is to book an appointment for me with a blood specialist now (as it will take a couple of months to get in) and in the meantime get my gallbladder out. They will wait a few days once the gallbladder is gone then test my count again. Hopefully we'll have solved the problem. So one step at a time. I guess what this proves is that one organ can certainly have alot to do with another's function and the pain from the gallbladder could possibly be felt on the left as well.
So, if I wasn't worried before, I certainly am now. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the increased pain over the last couple of weeks. I've learned that it could be one of 2 things basically - either Lukemia or some accute internal organ inflamation. I am hoping that it is the latter and I believe it probably is with the gallbladder pain. My gp is very good and he has said the same thing. His plan is to book an appointment for me with a blood specialist now (as it will take a couple of months to get in) and in the meantime get my gallbladder out. They will wait a few days once the gallbladder is gone then test my count again. Hopefully we'll have solved the problem. So one step at a time. I guess what this proves is that one organ can certainly have alot to do with another's function and the pain from the gallbladder could possibly be felt on the left as well.
I saw a GI specialist at Johns Hopkins yesterday. He said that he believes that I have developed a fibrosis throughout my body because of the the problems I've developed with my lungs and heart and because I have just had pulmonary phlebitis in my left arm, the pancreatitis and pneumonia. He has scheduled me for a hydrascan and gastric emptying study. He is also going to do an ERCP after he looks at the original films that were done a few months ago. He increased the amount of pancreatic enzymes to double what I was taking before. He feels confident that he will be able to do something to help me have a better quality of life. I am hopeful.
Thanks TazLady I will.
I was diagnosed with gallstones (ultrasound) approx 1 month ago. I have appt with surgeon in a week as my doctor wants me to have my gallbladder taken out. My question is that although my initial pain with the gallstones were painful (which came with nausea, weakness etc), it has increased tenfold and is now on both the left and right bottom area of my ribs. I scream at the touch of my lower ribs on either side of me. Could there be complications that have developed from the gallstones? After reading the above posts i'm worried that i've developed pancreatitis? Any advice would be appreciated.
Lily,
Ask the surgeon to do the tests as mentioned above. They can help tell if your headed in that direction or not. I never had pain with my gallstones. Unless someone pressed on that area. It turns out the pain I was feeling was from Sphincter of Oddi dysfuntion. I truely believe, and so do others that know me, that I didn't develope pancreatitis until AFTER the gall bladder operation. It seems that during my operation the surgeon dropped my gallbladder sack inside me and the stones fell loose inside me and onto the cutting room flor. The surgeon had to stop the operation to retreive them from inside me. This is all documented in his letter regarding my operation. And when I kept having pain WEEKS and even MONTHS after the operation, he told me he was sending me back to my doctor as he diod all he could do for me. He kept telling me that I wasn't managing my pain well.
Another GI told me in my hospital room that there was nothing wrong with me, that he didn't believe that there ever was reason to have admitted me to the hospital (even tho amalyse and lipase levels were HIGH) and he told me that I was nothing more than a bored lonely housewife looking for attention. All the doctors kept telling me that I didn't fir the "profile" for pancreatitis. I was overweight, I was under forty, I was a woman and I didn't drink.
So ask for the tests. They don't cost much. They are simple to do. They can tell so much. And please don't forget that after surgery is a common time to have a pancreatic attack. PLEASE request to stay in the hospital overnight after the operation. With keyhole surgery, they generally send you home the same day. The nurse at the out patient center kept telling my husband that I needed to go to the hospital after the operation, but became very quiet when the surgeon came around to check on me. We didn't know any better so he took me home. What a mistake!!!
PLEASE ALSO KNOW that my senario will probably NOT be yours. But better safe that sorry. Ask about the tests, request the hospital overnight stay. The pain may only be from your gall stones.
Post back on here with my name in the subject after you talk to the surgeon. I'd really like to know what he says.
TazLady
Ask the surgeon to do the tests as mentioned above. They can help tell if your headed in that direction or not. I never had pain with my gallstones. Unless someone pressed on that area. It turns out the pain I was feeling was from Sphincter of Oddi dysfuntion. I truely believe, and so do others that know me, that I didn't develope pancreatitis until AFTER the gall bladder operation. It seems that during my operation the surgeon dropped my gallbladder sack inside me and the stones fell loose inside me and onto the cutting room flor. The surgeon had to stop the operation to retreive them from inside me. This is all documented in his letter regarding my operation. And when I kept having pain WEEKS and even MONTHS after the operation, he told me he was sending me back to my doctor as he diod all he could do for me. He kept telling me that I wasn't managing my pain well.
Another GI told me in my hospital room that there was nothing wrong with me, that he didn't believe that there ever was reason to have admitted me to the hospital (even tho amalyse and lipase levels were HIGH) and he told me that I was nothing more than a bored lonely housewife looking for attention. All the doctors kept telling me that I didn't fir the "profile" for pancreatitis. I was overweight, I was under forty, I was a woman and I didn't drink.
So ask for the tests. They don't cost much. They are simple to do. They can tell so much. And please don't forget that after surgery is a common time to have a pancreatic attack. PLEASE request to stay in the hospital overnight after the operation. With keyhole surgery, they generally send you home the same day. The nurse at the out patient center kept telling my husband that I needed to go to the hospital after the operation, but became very quiet when the surgeon came around to check on me. We didn't know any better so he took me home. What a mistake!!!
PLEASE ALSO KNOW that my senario will probably NOT be yours. But better safe that sorry. Ask about the tests, request the hospital overnight stay. The pain may only be from your gall stones.
Post back on here with my name in the subject after you talk to the surgeon. I'd really like to know what he says.
TazLady
Hi,
I also have SOD. And have had trouble with that until I had a sphincteronomy. That is doing ok now. And that is something to have checked especially if you have had 4 bouts of pancreatitis already.
If you have Pancreatitis, it NEVER goes away once you have gone chronic. With 4 episodes under your belt, I would be surprised if you have not gone chronic yet. You titled this Severe Pancreatitis. It usually doesn't get to that stage without you being Chronic. The pancreas is an organ that DOES NOT rejuvinate itself. Once damaged it is damaged for life.
I will live with pain for the rest of my life. I know there are future surgeries I WILL have to have. I will be on medication for the rest of my life too. I will have to follow a special diet for the rest of my life. Pancreatitis is NOTHING to fool around with and don't fool yourself that you will "get over this" one day. It does stick with you for the rest of your life.
HOWEVER...I am not so sick EVERYDAY that I can't get out of bed, do my daily routine, take care of my family. Yes, that does happen on occasion and yes, I do experience pain everyday. But I try to live as normal a life as I can. You will have good days and bad days. Some days will be worse than others. You will have hills and valleys with this. I have weeks where I feel great and then I have weeks where I don't do so well.
You asked about this disease and I told you straight forward in my first post. I did not pull any punches when I posted. Pancreatitis can be life threatening if you do not follow all the "rules" to take care of yourself and this illness.
Follow your diet, stay away from alcohol and see your specialist often. Alot of what you mentioned sounds familar to Pancreatitis. The diareha, the continuous pain, the off colored stools. You are probably experiencing fatigue, mood swings, depression and/or extreme tiredness. My specialist told me it's exhausting being this sick and he is right. With your families help, you will be better in the future than you are today.
I realize that the last thing you wanna hear when your sick is that it will never go away. But pancreatitis plays for life. You just have to learn to live with it, accomidate it and accept it. Your life has changed now and there's not much you can do about it.
There is a wonderful support site I belong to that you should check out. We all have Pancreatitis is some form and severity. We help each other and support one another. WWW.pancreatitis.org.uk Click on community at the top of the page and then new discussion board. You will find alot of useful info there.
TazLady
I also have SOD. And have had trouble with that until I had a sphincteronomy. That is doing ok now. And that is something to have checked especially if you have had 4 bouts of pancreatitis already.
If you have Pancreatitis, it NEVER goes away once you have gone chronic. With 4 episodes under your belt, I would be surprised if you have not gone chronic yet. You titled this Severe Pancreatitis. It usually doesn't get to that stage without you being Chronic. The pancreas is an organ that DOES NOT rejuvinate itself. Once damaged it is damaged for life.
I will live with pain for the rest of my life. I know there are future surgeries I WILL have to have. I will be on medication for the rest of my life too. I will have to follow a special diet for the rest of my life. Pancreatitis is NOTHING to fool around with and don't fool yourself that you will "get over this" one day. It does stick with you for the rest of your life.
HOWEVER...I am not so sick EVERYDAY that I can't get out of bed, do my daily routine, take care of my family. Yes, that does happen on occasion and yes, I do experience pain everyday. But I try to live as normal a life as I can. You will have good days and bad days. Some days will be worse than others. You will have hills and valleys with this. I have weeks where I feel great and then I have weeks where I don't do so well.
You asked about this disease and I told you straight forward in my first post. I did not pull any punches when I posted. Pancreatitis can be life threatening if you do not follow all the "rules" to take care of yourself and this illness.
Follow your diet, stay away from alcohol and see your specialist often. Alot of what you mentioned sounds familar to Pancreatitis. The diareha, the continuous pain, the off colored stools. You are probably experiencing fatigue, mood swings, depression and/or extreme tiredness. My specialist told me it's exhausting being this sick and he is right. With your families help, you will be better in the future than you are today.
I realize that the last thing you wanna hear when your sick is that it will never go away. But pancreatitis plays for life. You just have to learn to live with it, accomidate it and accept it. Your life has changed now and there's not much you can do about it.
There is a wonderful support site I belong to that you should check out. We all have Pancreatitis is some form and severity. We help each other and support one another. WWW.pancreatitis.org.uk Click on community at the top of the page and then new discussion board. You will find alot of useful info there.
TazLady
I don't think you will be sick the rest of your life! When we are sick that is the last thing you want to hear. Perhaps the stent that was put in didn't work that time.
Do a lot of research on what Dr you go to. I don't think you should just pick anyone. Find a Dr who has treated this problem and symtoms many many times. The more they have the better your outcome. Try going to borland-groover.com Read about what they do at their clinic. I have been treated there for sphincter of oddi dysfunction which gave me symtoms similar to what you are going through. People travel from all over the country for their experience. I know it is horribly depressing to not know what is in your future. The pain alone is the worst.
Do a lot of research on what Dr you go to. I don't think you should just pick anyone. Find a Dr who has treated this problem and symtoms many many times. The more they have the better your outcome. Try going to borland-groover.com Read about what they do at their clinic. I have been treated there for sphincter of oddi dysfunction which gave me symtoms similar to what you are going through. People travel from all over the country for their experience. I know it is horribly depressing to not know what is in your future. The pain alone is the worst.
Hi,
I can't help with alot of what you have asked but I can tell you this. I have severe Chronic Pancreatitis. And you will be sick for the rest of your life. It's a dreadful disease. My son who is 11 asks when I'm in pain, "mom, do we need to go to the hospital?" It's horrible to have your child be so scared for himself and you, that they have to ask that. On the other hand, how wonderful for me that he is so intuned with my illness that he knows what to do should the need arise.
I try to keep my fat intake to 25 grams or less. I have heard of others going below 20 grams of fat, but that isn't healthy for the body. You should be on some enzyme suppliment foods to help digest what you do eat.
I have bouts of pain with my pancreas. I just had a CT Scan and found no cancer, tumors or psudocysts. YEAH for me.
I hope you can find a good surgeon to help you with this. My son was only 7 or 8 when I got sick. He is handeling it very well. You girls will too. Let them be a part of your life, tell them whats going on (of course only to a point) but they need to be prepared in case something happens and you need to be hospitalized for something.
Good Luck,
TazLady
I can't help with alot of what you have asked but I can tell you this. I have severe Chronic Pancreatitis. And you will be sick for the rest of your life. It's a dreadful disease. My son who is 11 asks when I'm in pain, "mom, do we need to go to the hospital?" It's horrible to have your child be so scared for himself and you, that they have to ask that. On the other hand, how wonderful for me that he is so intuned with my illness that he knows what to do should the need arise.
I try to keep my fat intake to 25 grams or less. I have heard of others going below 20 grams of fat, but that isn't healthy for the body. You should be on some enzyme suppliment foods to help digest what you do eat.
I have bouts of pain with my pancreas. I just had a CT Scan and found no cancer, tumors or psudocysts. YEAH for me.
I hope you can find a good surgeon to help you with this. My son was only 7 or 8 when I got sick. He is handeling it very well. You girls will too. Let them be a part of your life, tell them whats going on (of course only to a point) but they need to be prepared in case something happens and you need to be hospitalized for something.
Good Luck,
TazLady
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