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best treatments for fibromyalgia
can someone with some knowledge and experience please tell me what seems to be the best treatments out there when it comes to dealing with fibromyalgia?
i am still trying to gather information on which is better lyrica or neurontin, and i am also told they are the same med? any truth to this?
any advice on how to deal with flare ups would be just great also, at this point i am up for anything new that may help...
depression, flare ups, everyday pain, fatigue and feeling like 120 year old in the morning are my biggest problems as of now, any insight is appreciated...thank you!
i am still trying to gather information on which is better lyrica or neurontin, and i am also told they are the same med? any truth to this?
any advice on how to deal with flare ups would be just great also, at this point i am up for anything new that may help...
depression, flare ups, everyday pain, fatigue and feeling like 120 year old in the morning are my biggest problems as of now, any insight is appreciated...thank you!
I meant to say
"There's some argument to be made with his point, but overall it does make sense and it's NOT too far off the mark."
Also I read the klonipin posts on the addiction forum specifically over time.
Glad to see you are past the addiction problems and saying with it. Hope you find some good info here!
"There's some argument to be made with his point, but overall it does make sense and it's NOT too far off the mark."
Also I read the klonipin posts on the addiction forum specifically over time.
Glad to see you are past the addiction problems and saying with it. Hope you find some good info here!
I was going to post that klonipin is addictive. Glad you know that already and didn't get mislead. Platelet is one of the experienced people on this forum and knows a ton about cfs and fm. I can tell you from a number of months of posting that she wasn't trying to pull your leg or be saractic and was trying to be helpful. (Although I'm sure she can speak for herself).
The doctor she referenced is one of the national experts in CFS. In looking at the article, a couple things become apparent. Dr. Cheney is talking about using neroutin for cfs and fm. Those patients (us) are notoriously sensitive to medication, and almost always use much lower doses than the norm, so he experiences with patients may very well be different than the norm. He tends to get tough cases that haven't been helped elsewhere so they may be more sensitive than the norm. Also, he's distingishing addicition from 1. habituating and 2. from required gradual removal.
There's some argument to be made with his point, but overall it does make sense and it's too far off the mark. Also, I read the posts on the additiction forum because of a personal reason, and was impressed by the power of this drug. What he says is:
"Dr. Cheney was adamant that Klonopin is not addictive. In treating thousands of patients, he has never seen a patient become addicted to Klonopin. He reviewed the definition of addiction, stating that it involves: (1) psychosocial disruption, (2) accelerated use, (3) inappropriate use, and (4) drug seeking behavior.
Dr. Cheney said a case might be made that Klonopin is habituating. It’s true that it can’t be stopped suddenly. You must taper off of it gradually. However, he was cautious about even calling it habituating. The process of tapering off a drug is not the same thing as withdrawal, a term that implies addiction. "
The rest of the article is fulled with information that's quite interesting and extremely detailed about how it all works, so it may be worth a read even if you disagree with this part. Over the years (I've had cfs a long time), I've found sometimes I agree and use Dr. Cheney's info and sometimes I don't. He tends to explore more than many of the other doctors. (He also charges an arm and a leg, so I haven't opted to see him.)
Thanks for posting the question though. I saw some ideas I hadn't thought about it a while that I might try.
The doctor she referenced is one of the national experts in CFS. In looking at the article, a couple things become apparent. Dr. Cheney is talking about using neroutin for cfs and fm. Those patients (us) are notoriously sensitive to medication, and almost always use much lower doses than the norm, so he experiences with patients may very well be different than the norm. He tends to get tough cases that haven't been helped elsewhere so they may be more sensitive than the norm. Also, he's distingishing addicition from 1. habituating and 2. from required gradual removal.
There's some argument to be made with his point, but overall it does make sense and it's too far off the mark. Also, I read the posts on the additiction forum because of a personal reason, and was impressed by the power of this drug. What he says is:
"Dr. Cheney was adamant that Klonopin is not addictive. In treating thousands of patients, he has never seen a patient become addicted to Klonopin. He reviewed the definition of addiction, stating that it involves: (1) psychosocial disruption, (2) accelerated use, (3) inappropriate use, and (4) drug seeking behavior.
Dr. Cheney said a case might be made that Klonopin is habituating. It’s true that it can’t be stopped suddenly. You must taper off of it gradually. However, he was cautious about even calling it habituating. The process of tapering off a drug is not the same thing as withdrawal, a term that implies addiction. "
The rest of the article is fulled with information that's quite interesting and extremely detailed about how it all works, so it may be worth a read even if you disagree with this part. Over the years (I've had cfs a long time), I've found sometimes I agree and use Dr. Cheney's info and sometimes I don't. He tends to explore more than many of the other doctors. (He also charges an arm and a leg, so I haven't opted to see him.)
Thanks for posting the question though. I saw some ideas I hadn't thought about it a while that I might try.
klonipin isnt addictive??? are these doctors serious? you must be pulling my leg, right..this is a joke, right?
i am on the addiction forum here everyday...klonipin is in a class of drugs called benzodiazapenes...and benzos are the #2 most commonly abused and addictive drug on the forum??? i have an older lady friend that i used to talk to often...well not anymore, she had a stroke trying to cold turkey off klonipin, her daughter contacted me to tell me, and i havent heard from her since....seizures and death can happen when trying to quit if not done properly under doctors supervision...
i think you were being sarcastic...i HOPE you were anyway...LOL!
i am on the addiction forum here everyday...klonipin is in a class of drugs called benzodiazapenes...and benzos are the #2 most commonly abused and addictive drug on the forum??? i have an older lady friend that i used to talk to often...well not anymore, she had a stroke trying to cold turkey off klonipin, her daughter contacted me to tell me, and i havent heard from her since....seizures and death can happen when trying to quit if not done properly under doctors supervision...
i think you were being sarcastic...i HOPE you were anyway...LOL!
On my post I put vitaimnB and it should have been vitD. i am so sorry for the mistake.....
fms is for me everchanging and so are my meds. my dr tells me when i am nothurting so bad to decrease pain meds i take ultram, recently added darvocet ultram just wasnt enough by itself . your body gets used to one and sometimes need changing. i have been taking lryica since last june which really helped in my tingling legs the sharp stabbing pain i would get in my legs and toes. dr took me off it about 3 weeks ago because i was having a mri, not sure what that was about. but since i have been off i have had clearer thinkng- my legs dont jerk anymore . i wiill stay off it untiil ihave to deal with those pains again. i would love not to take all these pills. i also take cymbalta, elavil, and flexril. i also take b12 drops under tongue(walmart) also take magnesium.i do go to massage therapy which helps especially when i am real bad she does the lymph node drainage i can tell when i am swolen and this flush the toxins out. just so many things i would like to find dr to help not just push pain meds.been reading about a fms center in dallas- its the closest to me. found them on web theytreat you holistic deal with whole body. just keep faith and dont overdo it on a good day i do that and then pay for days!
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